ChorizoPicozo
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I remember an interview when Phil himself said that people inside MS were shocked at the concept of "dual entitlement"; "are you going to give away a copy of the our game".
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[Jez Corden] Until AAA and indies support 'Xbox Play Anywhere,' Microsoft's current gaming strategy will not pay off
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Zacfoldor
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I promise you, he could do no worse.
alphachino
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Does 'Xbox Play Anywhere' mean I can buy say, Black Ops 6, just once on MS Store and then be able to download the same game on my PS5 because my PS5 is also an Xbox, and on Steam, because my Steam Deck is also an Xbox?
If so, that would be awesome... I would probably buy my games from Microsoft then.
Something tells me that this is never going to happen though.
Which is why Xbox is a shit brand that deserves to die at this point. It's absolutely toxic, utterly confused and has no clue what it's meant to be.
If so, that would be awesome... I would probably buy my games from Microsoft then.
Something tells me that this is never going to happen though.
Which is why Xbox is a shit brand that deserves to die at this point. It's absolutely toxic, utterly confused and has no clue what it's meant to be.
yeah that and the fact their costs go up but the price of the game doesn't in a 1 sku world.
Kacho
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Durin
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True statement, and it's weird seeing Microsoft not pair this new initiative with more unique features, both software and even hardware based if they're going to bother making more Xbox consoles.
Xbox Series X is too similar to the PS5, when the 360 was FAR different than the PS3 beyond just their different chipset. The blades UI was a totally different experience just to navigate the console, and Xbox Live was packed with so many different features/services that Sony was playing catch-up for most of the gen because Microsoft SET trends...now both consoles just add in Discord integration because they can't innovate the social experience at all, and Sony has the better brand + game IP to compete in the rigid box they've put themselves in so far in the gen.
Microsoft's acquisitions do seem to be turning around their game output, and Game Pass is nice, but they need more. Hell, even though I like Game Pass on PC, some of the same games run worse than the Steam versions and I can't mod them.
Gojiira
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Sorry but if you're retarded enough to want to play games like Monster Hunter Wilds with touch controls on a goddamn phone then you need to stop spouting such utter nonsense…Xbox Play anywhere is a gimmick, a gimmick that further dilutes any money a game can make, if getting it for 'free' on gamepass gives you access across 3 to 4 to god knows how many platforms…Come on its not fucking rocket science why AAA etc arent exactly keen on killing their potential sales…
ChorizoPicozo
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We know that this is factually true.
semiconscious
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when your own new 'this is an xbox' slogan is a blatant lie predicated on wishful thinking? you're correct. they've run out of track...
kevboard
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people double dipping will be less and less of a thing in the future. PC is growing, eventually consoles in the traditional sense won't really exist anymore. this transition will probably happen naturally within the next decade or so.
if rumors are to be believed, the next Xbox already won't be a traditional console anymore, and be more Steam Deck like. a PC that has a controller/TV friendly UI with an optional Desktop mode.
at that moment, Xbox and PC will be one and the same. the Microsoft Store will be just like Steam or the Epic Store.
it is in the interest of Microsoft to eventually force this transition, it's just a question of "when?"
for that transition to work, Microsoft needs to do a lot of work. and one big part of that work will be negotiating with publishers about this transition. another big part will be making a Gaming version of Windows that is competitive with Steam OS, and the last big part will be making all games that their customers bought on their Xbox ecosystem work on Windows (which shouldn't be an issue on a technical level, just give a minimum spec and go, but might clash with some licencing deals that would need renegotiating)
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DeepEnigma
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Even MS isn't "play anywhere." Hence, Steam.
Friends don't let friends use Windows Store.
Friends don't let friends use Windows Store.
Humdinger
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Interesting. I hadn't thought about it like that. I assumed that from all the talk we've heard from MS about Play Anywhere, and how important it seemed to them, that they would have a clear path for it to come to fruition. But if only 7% of games in 2024 were ready for Play Anywhere, then something is wrong. And what people are pointing out in the thread makes sense - most publishers would not want to do this.
I assumed MS knew what they were doing. My mistake. You'd think I would know by now, lol.
I assumed MS knew what they were doing. My mistake. You'd think I would know by now, lol.
Astray
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AKA the fastest way to get the bigger 3rd parties to skip your console.
EA, Ubisoft and some others all have their own PC storefronts that the Xbox App is competing with, there's no way they would just give it so much value for free.
Unknown Soldier
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I know a real person like this and he's an insufferable cunt IRL
Microsoft has the worst fans which makes sense because they are a terrible company and you need to be a terrible person to be an unironically fan of a company like that
Rubim
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One had the time to think about it.
Rubim
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Anyone who's a fanboy of "brandname" is weird as fuck.
There's also the reverse of it, i have a friend IRL who hates Microsoft and Xbox, you would think that Phil himself was at his home fucking his wife.
Every single game that dont work is something like: "Microsoft always fucks everything up".
kevboard
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every game that doesn't launch on Steam is doomed to fail on PC...
EA's and Ubisoft's launchers aren't in any way a factor here.
the fact that they still even exist is impressive tbh. as they basically have no value for them. I literally don't know a single person that ever bought a game on either of them. I only ever used them for free games they handed out a few years ago.
Zuzu
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It feels like Microsoft has been checkmated by the competition in every significant area of the gaming market other than subscription services (where they're clearly delivering the best product by some margin). It's seems like it's going to be hard for them to move in a way that will benefit them.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sister article to this one: https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...lay-anywhere-support-a-decline-year-over-year
DenchDeckard
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Play Anywhere legit makes me buy games on xbox. If every game on the platform supported it, it would do wonders for their eco system.
They really should do whatever they can to get every publisher to support it.
They really should do whatever they can to get every publisher to support it.
Panajev2001a
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They are not even implementing it for their own Blizzard games (Diablo 4 and expansions). Support for it is dropping year after year.
DenchDeckard
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Such a shame. Legit best thing about the platform. I've purchased a lot of games because of it.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I understand, but it was again not sustainable. It makes you less money and it was another thing that MS was doing with its other enormous war chest built in their other and former monopolies money to outspend their competition. It is not good for software developers and publishers.
nowhat
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I prefer "Jizz Condom".
DenchDeckard
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I really don't know if there is any evidence to say it isn't sustainable. It just seems it wasn't a focus.
I mean. It's probably more work for the dev to implement a joint license and ensuring it runs on xbox and xbox app PC. But, I doubt it's not sustainable. Just not much interest and ms not pushing it. Sega supports it very well.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Evidence being in the pudding. Nobody is doing it, practically speaking, and their own studios are not doing it. It does not increase sales but decreases them. It is something one does accepting to lose money to disrupt those that cannot do the same.
Bonfires Down
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They should have made Play Anywhere a requirement for games with a PC version long ago. I suppose they can do emulation but that still seems like a licensing nightmare.
I have no idea how the Xbox team can be so clueless about everything they do.
Guardian Monkey
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Streaming is the final form of play everywhere.
Fess
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Look at that, Jez found his fangs. This is good stuff and very good coming from a fan usually defending everything they do.
What if someone would sell their real Xbox after seeing the "This is an Xbox" ad? I once said that this ad could result in a class action lawsuit. It's really an outright lie and false advertising to say that a PC, mobile, ROG Ally, laptop etc is an Xbox as long as I need an actual Xbox to play all the games in my library.
And no, Xbox Cloud isn't a solution. Doesn't work everywhere and add latency and stutter. They need an emulation layer for native installs for Xbox/360/XB1/Series games and a way to register your discs to your account so you can access your purchased games digitally.
If they ever get to the point where it feels like it's safe to sell your Xbox consoles because you have access to everything elsewhere, then and only then can they say that another device is an Xbox.
DenchDeckard
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I think its wild that ms introduces something that is pro consumer and we worry about if its sustainable because these fucking publishers would rather make you buy a game twice than be able to use it on the multiple devices you own.
I'm really confused by how it's not sustainable. It's just a benefit. Buy the game on this store and you get to use it across windows and xbox.
It's not like I'm going to go out and buy multiple copies of a game if it's not play anywhere.
I've done it once or twice but not to the level that ita not sustainable. I would put money that it's just not supported as much due to having to have the games as native pc Xbox app applications.
Diablo iv etc launch into battle net don't they? Not xbox apps
Cyberpunkd
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This. Gaming companies want money, they are also famous for completely shitting on their fans is search for more profit.
Will play anywhere allow companies to sell more copies? Maybe, but the idea is anathema to corporate vision of making people pay multiple times.
What's worse than the games mentioned? Microsoft first party not using it as well e.g. Diablo 4.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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No one cares about any of this shit, it's just gimmicks and distractions. Without exclusives a console is useless and irrelevant. Period end of story.
Gamezone
Gold Member
What will they lose? Do people usually buy games twice?
If that was the case then ms can just dominate by pulling back all act and bethesda games and make them exclusive.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Some do, the ones that buy the PC SKU are not subsidising / paying for Xbox support and viceversa.
drganon
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More like watch the games sales collapse.
Nikodemos
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That's because he wasted $80+ billion on buying the cow, instead of just ordering cheese varieties exclusive to their shop. Now he has to provide everybody else with milk and dairy products.
TehGoomba7s
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Because companies would be losing out big time on sales of their product. They are essentially giving out free copies of their games on other platforms. It's pro consumer yes but anti developer just like game pass. So unless MS want to foot the bill and pay these companies the extra money they'd lose supporting play anywhere then it won't be adopted by everyone. Smaller devs who want exposure will jump at it but any established AAA developer interested in money first won't.
Horseganador
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The only thing that will pay off for Xbox is releasing its games on PS5, Switch 2, and Steam and forgetting about the hardware.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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Why is MS even dependend on their approval? Why can't they change their Windows Store equivalent of Steam (and the underlying technologies) so that technically, an Xbox game is no longer different from a Windows game, meaning the Xbox binaries are 100% compatible with Windows and when you release an Xbox game, you effectively also release it for Windows?