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[Mister Wolf]

The game is absolutely stunning maxed out on PC. A true generational leap over the console versions.

A few shots of my playthrough:

That's why we pay the big bucks.

 

[QLQ]

Not on your PC, though lmao

 

[SlimySnake]

It's not the bvh that's the issue. The default RTGI is probe based, not per pixel. That's why there's a massive jump with PT (or full RT), where it is per pixel. Also why the resolution increase for Pro has no effect on the quality of RT. Timestamped below. This was confirmed by the devs in another video.

that makes sense, but there are other probe based RTGI implementations like Jedi Survivor that feature far bigger environments and dont look like utter garbage.

its quite clear that the problem isnt the tech, its the developers and the horrid implementation of Ray tracing and vram management. In one of the dev interviews with the devs, they had an nvidia rep on. Nvidia actually came on board late in the dev cycle and likely did the PT implementation themselves. Pretty much saved their asses. Sadly, nvidia dont give two shits about regular ray tracing anymore and need path tracing on the box to sell their overpriced GPUs so the regular ray tracing modes didnt get any love from nvidia.

Not that you need ray tracing in a linear game with a fixed time of day like this anyway.

 

[Tchu-Espresso]

Of course we're salty. The game is dynamic 2160p on base ps5 already ...they did nothing to enhance this on the Pro. We spent $800 in hopes of getting some meaningful graphical improvement. 45% gpu and 2-3x RT improvement is nothing to scoff at. We don't have a single graphical preset that's higher than base PS5's in this game on Pro other than slight resolution increase

Exactly. It's why it's no longer on my buy list.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

It's not the bvh that's the issue. The default RTGI is probe based, not per pixel. That's why there's a massive jump with PT (or full RT), where it is per pixel. Also why the resolution increase for Pro has no effect on the quality of RT. Timestamped below. This was confirmed by the devs in another video.

There's

That sucks ....i was hoping the rtgi would improve on pro due to higher res. Makes the devs "advanced Rt" comment on the Pro advert even more BS

This game doesn't really deserve the Pro Enhanced label as its no different than a game like Cyberpunk getting a higher res on Pro due to dynamic res ...am I wrong about that?

 

[Kataploom]

That's how you use RT for your lighting model... Did you see that, Epic?

 

[SlimySnake]

Of course we're salty. The game is dynamic 2160p on base ps5 already ...they did nothing to enhance this on the Pro. We spent $800 in hopes of getting some meaningful graphical improvement. 45% gpu and 2-3x RT improvement is nothing to scoff at. We don't have a single graphical preset that's higher than base PS5's in this game on Pro other than slight resolution increase

no, on base consoles its dynamic 1800p just like the xsx.

pro is 2160p but stays there all the time whereas the base console can drop to 1440p.

But yes, aside from increasing the resolution they did nothing.

 

[viveks86]

that makes sense, but there are other probe based RTGI implementations like Jedi Survivor that feature far bigger environments and dont look like utter garbage.

its quite clear that the problem isnt the tech, its the developers and the horrid implementation of Ray tracing and vram management. In one of the dev interviews with the devs, they had an nvidia rep on. Nvidia actually came on board late in the dev cycle and likely did the PT implementation themselves. Pretty much saved their asses. Sadly, nvidia dont give two shits about regular ray tracing anymore and need path tracing on the box to sell their overpriced GPUs so the regular ray tracing modes didnt get any love from nvidia.

Not that you need ray tracing in a linear game with a fixed time of day like this anyway.

Yeah I don't disagree. They didn't give the non full RT version the love it deserved. But I also don't think it's an ugly looking game to warrant too much criticism. Hopefully PT becomes viable next gen so we don't have to deal with another whole generation of growing pains.

 

[willothedog]

That sucks ....i was hoping the rtgi would improve on pro due to higher res. Makes the devs "advanced Rt" comment on the Pro advert even more BS

This game doesn't really deserve the Pro Enhanced label as its no different than a game like Cyberpunk getting a higher res on Pro due to dynamic res ...am I wrong about that?

PlayStation set the criteria for achieving 'pro enhanced' status; this game must've met that threshold, therefore deserves the label.

 

[Radical_3d]

Let's compare a PSPro with a 5090 PC. How useful!

 

[viveks86]

That sucks ....i was hoping the rtgi would improve on pro due to higher res. Makes the devs "advanced Rt" comment on the Pro advert even more BS

This game doesn't really deserve the Pro Enhanced label as it's no different than a game like Cyberpunk getting a higher res on Pro due to dynamic res ...am I wrong about that?

Fixed higher resolution instead of a dynamic lower resolution technically warrants a pro enhanced tag as something specific was made for the platform. An undeserved one, but still fits the bill, unfortunately.

 

[bender]

So was The Darkness

And Syndicate especially

 

[Gaiff]

Let's compare a PSPro with a 5090 PC. How useful!

It's useful to know how well the PC version scales. In some games, it doesn't look much better.

 

[Radical_3d]

The Darkness is super under rated. Syndicate was ass, tho.

 

[NeonDelta]

Let's compare a PSPro with a 5090 PC. How useful!

This is what annoys me about lots of these pc and ps5/pro comparisons you see, I'd rather see comparisons between a 4060/4070 level gpu and the consoles to see what the difference is like

 

[mrMUR_96]

I still can't believe this won DF's graphics of the year. It looks very good maxed out with PT which is probably not even 1% of players. It looks cross-gen af on consoles, especially when so many better looking games came out on console last year.

 

[damidu]

I still can't believe this won DF's graphics of the year. It looks very good maxed out with PT which is probably not even 1% of players. It looks cross-gen af on consoles, especially when so many better looking games came out on console last year.

batusta probably had others cave in with his constant shilling for that. forget that only %0.1 of pc gamers can use PT
game is 2 generations old, when it comes to character models, animations. its definition of uncanny valley.

 

[Skifi28]

This thread is the first I hear about how "bad" the game looks. Until now I've only seen praise, be it here or from YouTube tech channels. Surprisingly enough, it seems many people seem to agree about the issues. Truly fascinating.

 

[Bojji]

Not on your PC, though lmao

Interesting. Then how you explain this?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Baby steps of RT for the masses.

If they keep making old gen lighting, thats all we are gonna get.

This is the sort of developer that will get RT working on Switch 2. Nintendo wont be able to pull that off. (Or wont. They would rather be last gen, I believe)

 

[Fabieter]

Selling old ports with no real improvements for fullprice is not how you are selling more copies.

 

[QLQ]

Interesting. Then how you explain this?

Explain what? Go explain it to the 3Dmark thread, they're still asking for you, lmao

 

[DenchDeckard]

The game is absolutely stunning maxed out on PC. A true generational leap over the console versions.

A few shots of my playthrough:

Overall, the best looking game I've seen.

Ass creed may have topped it this year though. We are getting insane looking games on pc now with raytracing.

 

[Bojji]

Explain what? Go explain it to the 3Dmark thread, they're still asking for you, lmao

I was literally playing this game with PT few minutes ago.

 

[QLQ]

I was literally playing this game with PT few minutes ago.

.Good for you. Why don't you upload some videos of your gameplay, let's see how the game runs with PT on your powerful PC.

 

[Bojji]

.Good for you. Why don't you upload some videos of your gameplay, let's see how the game runs with PT on your powerful PC.

Sure.

 

[QLQ]

Sure.

That's good enough for photo mode and walking around empty rooms. Barely above 60fps with dips on your second video as well. Lmao. What's that 1080p DLSS performance, medium settings?

 

[Toots]

Sure.

He won't get it.
There is none so deaf as he who just got owned on a pc master race thread.

Im gutted by ps5 pro / pc comparisons it seems without pathtracing the game loose 80% of its graphical appeal...

 

[Gaiff]

That's good enough for photo mode and walking around empty rooms. Barely above 60fps with dips on your second video as well. Lmao. What's that 1080p DLSS performance, medium settings?

Your schtick is straight-up embarrassing.

 

[Bojji]

That's good enough for photo mode and walking around empty rooms. Barely above 60fps with dips on your second video as well. Lmao. What's that 1080p DLSS performance, medium settings?

Max settings, full PT. 4k output with DLSS performance.

Let's see how Pro would run it with GPU much worse than 9070XT:

Hmmm....

 

[Audiophile]

I really hope next gen just throws as much hardware real estate, optimisation and special sauce as possible at PT. It's just so much more cohesive. Comprehensive ray acceleration / handling, ML for ray reconstruction etc. It'd suck if they half-arse it out of the gate like RT this gen [though tbf, they didn't have much choice], or at the very east try to nail high quality comprehensive RT and then scale up, going all in on PT for the ~PS6 Pro. Wouldn't wanna wait til 2035/36 & PS7 for PT to be viable on consoles. One thing I expect we'll see next gen is a lot of the games now which have basic RT, getting Path Traced updates rather than just cranking resolution.

 

[QLQ]

Max settings, full PT. 4k output with DLSS performance.

Let's see how Pro would run it with GPU much worse than 9070XT:

Hmmm....

lol bullshit

 

[DenchDeckard]

Of course we're salty. The game is dynamic 2160p on base ps5 already ...they did nothing to enhance this on the Pro. We spent $800 in hopes of getting some meaningful graphical improvement. 45% gpu and 2-3x RT improvement is nothing to scoff at. We don't have a single graphical preset that's higher than base PS5's in this game on Pro other than slight resolution increase

That's why you buy a pc and tweak the settings yourself. You can literally set what is important to you and run with it.

It's why in my adult years, pc has always been my number one focus and consoles are complimentary. But, as more exclusives are coming to pc you can literally have your cake and eat it on pc.

 

[QLQ]

Your schtick is straight-up embarrassing.

yeah, how's that? The guy scavenging the internat to find some obscure deal in a Canadian store...now that was pathetic.

 

[DenchDeckard]

yeah, how's that? The guy scavenging the internat to find some obscure deal in a Canadian store...now that was pathetic.

Take it from me. I would try and change your entire outlook if you are to stick around here.

You're posting is embarassing. I doubt you will be here long if you don't change as a person.

 

[Gaiff]

yeah, how's that? The guy scavenging the internat to find some obscure deal in a Canadian store...now that was pathetic.

Obscure deals on the biggest computer retailer in Canada?

Anyway, it's obvious you won't last, so I won't bother with you.

 

[QLQ]

Take it from me. I would try and change your entire outlook if you are to stick around here.

You're posting is embarassing. I doubt you will be here long if you don't change as a person.

Ok Pastor...So he attacks me and I can't respond to the attack, and need to change "as a person"? what is this a Christian Church?

 

[Fabieter]

 

[Toots]

Ok Pastor...So he attacks me and I can't respond to the attack, and need to change "as a person"? what is this a Christian Church?

Your antagonism is dialed up to eleven.
It is pretty fun for a time but then it gets old and you risk having someone reporting you and you'll get banned because you are not even funny in your response.

Really you should say everyone is dumb for not understanding things as you do and just go check other threads for a while. You won't convince anyone here.

 

[QLQ]

Your antagonism is dialed up to eleven.
It is pretty fun for a time but then it gets old and you risk having someone reporting you and you'll get banned because you are not even funny in your response.

Really you should say everyone is dumb for not understanding things as you do and just go check other threads for a while. You won't convince anyone here.

Ok. I apologize. Forgive me father for I have sinned. Bye bye.

 

[drotahorror]

I would hope so....

PC: RTX 5090 | i9 12900K | 64GB DDR5 | SSD M.2

Damn they had RAM and an SSD in that beast as well?

 

[Zacfoldor]

Spicy little takes popping up everywhere.

I just played Indiana Jones and the Great Circle on PS5 Pro — and it’s so much better than on Xbox Series X

This is the definitive console version

www.tomsguide.com

 

[Toots]

Ok. I apologize. Forgive me father for I have sinned. Bye bye.

did you really think i would give you the last word ?

Spicy little takes popping up everywhere.

I just played Indiana Jones and the Great Circle on PS5 Pro — and it’s so much better than on Xbox Series X

This is the definitive console version

www.tomsguide.com

"Unlike other PS5 Pro-enhanced games, this title doesn't force you to choose between Performance and Fidelity modes. Instead, it delivers native 4K resolution the instant you boot it up. This means you don't have to spend time fiddling with graphical options. You can just play the game."

That is one of the dullest takes i ever read.
Two graphic modes to choose from is one too much for this pinhead...
Go buy a switch 2 then dimwit

 

[SlimySnake]

That's good enough for photo mode and walking around empty rooms. Barely above 60fps with dips on your second video as well. Lmao. What's that 1080p DLSS performance, medium settings?

Stop moving goalposts. you just got proved wrong. be a man, admit you were wrong instead of acting like a woman and moving goalposts.

 

[viveks86]

did you really think i would give you the last word ?




That is one of the dullest takes i ever read.
Two graphic modes to choose from is one too much for this pinhead...
Go buy a switch 2 then dimwit

Also there is this gem:

The Great Circle looks phenomenal at 4K resolution, but it also has other graphical enhancements like advanced ray tracing—a feature also present on the standard PS5 edition. This feature is evident almost from the start, as you get to see impressive ray-traced reflections on the glass shelves in Indiana Jones' college museum.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sure.

What GPU do you have again?

Ive been trying to upgrade to a 5080 for months now but they are all $1,400 to $1,600 at my local bestbuy or microcenter.

The $1000 ones never become available. Pretty sure nvidia isnt even making them.

 

[Bojji]

What GPU do you have again?

Ive been trying to upgrade to a 5080 for months now but they are all $1,400 to $1,600 at my local bestbuy or microcenter.

The $1000 ones never become available. Pretty sure nvidia isnt even making them.

4070 ti super. The most important thing for this game is vram and with 16GB game fits with performance DLSS (and ultra texture streaming). When I try native 4k game goes out of memory, lol.

Every location is 50-60fps except sukhothai, it drops to ~40.

 

[SlimySnake]

4070 ti super. The most important thing for this game is vram and with 16GB game fits with performance DLSS (and ultra texture streaming). When I try native 4k game goes out of memory, lol.

Every location is 50-60fps except sukhothai, it drops to ~40.

i didnt realize 4070 ti had 16 gb of ram. that makes 5070 with 12 gb even more silly because it cannot run the game at 4k even when using dlss. i saw youtubers having to go down to 1440p dlss just to get path tracing to run on that card.

 

[Bojji]

i didnt realize 4070 ti had 16 gb of ram. that makes 5070 with 12 gb even more silly because it cannot run the game at 4k even when using dlss. i saw youtubers having to go down to 1440p dlss just to get path tracing to run on that card.

Super version of 4070ti fixed the biggest flaws of normal 4070ti - 192bit bus and 12GB of memory.

Regular 4070ti fells like 3070 part 2, powerful GPU constrained by vram amount (and I had both of them so i know).

Nvidia is full of shit with vram, maybe without change to GDDR7 we would see more memory on every model but now there is basically no change vs. 4xxx series.

 

[QLQ]

Stop moving goalposts. you just got proved wrong. be a man, admit you were wrong instead of acting like a woman and moving goalposts.

Expecting more than videos showing running in empty scenarios is not moving goalposts, and you saying that on his behalf is very hilarious.