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[SlimySnake]

Nintendo hasn't prioritized visual fidelity in their games for nearly 30 years now. I don't know why ya'll are expecting that to change suddenly now.

20. Not 30. Gamecube was more powerful than the Ps5 and had a lot of stunning titles.

Secondly, we are expecting things to change now because they are now charging $80, not even $70 like sony and ms do as a next gen tax, but $80 dollars. For what? Where is the money going? These games should be $40 max like Expedition 33, hellblade, alan wake 2, or $50 like Mafia.

Lastly, we are expecting things to change because their console is $450. its not a cheap $200 handheld like switch lite. its literally as expensive as a PS5. it;s 10x more powerful than the switch 1. it's actually a fairly competent machine for a handheld and should easily provide ps4 quality graphics at 60 fps.

anyone charging that much for a console and games should be held to a higher standard. especially first party studios who have a much bigger budget and longer dev cycles.

 

[Edder1]

Ok

Go install Red faction guerilla

Take the pickaxe

and try to dig the terrain

Report back with a video

And the kiddy argument lol. With that kind of comment and how edgy you are in multiple posts, I doubt you even had the age to register on neogaf to be honest. How fucking insecure.



*offense

The red faction destruction made more sense, the red faction 1? The one where there's maybe 3 places in the game that forces you to use it? LOL

Being that clueless should be a punishable offense.

But you can @ @GymWolf for bringing DKB into the thread

Dude, don't make me laugh. That "destruction" you're seeing is nothing but pre canned animations that are clearly visible when you slow down footage of the game. Anybody can do those pre canned animations with PS2 graphics, lol. Nobody does it because it's a stupid gimmick that outside of Nintendo games hardly anyone will care for.

 

[SlimySnake]

It's acceptable when you have an understanding of Nintendo's game development philosophies, yes.

It's not acceptable. Maybe understandable like how its understandable how poverty contributes to crime, but definitely not acceptable.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Dude, don't make me laugh. That "destruction" you're seeing is nothing but pre canned animations that are clearly visible when you slow down footage of the game, lol. Anybody can do those pre canned animations with PS2 graphics, lol. Nobody does it because it's a stupid gimmick that outside of Nintendo games hardly anyone will care for.

You're tech illiterate. You know nothing of what's done here.

 

[Edder1]

You're tech illiterate. You know nothing of what's done here.

 

[analog_future]

20. Not 30. Gamecube was more powerful than the Ps5 and had a lot of stunning titles.

Secondly, we are expecting things to change now because they are now charging $80, not even $70 like sony and ms do as a next gen tax, but $80 dollars. For what? Where is the money going? These games should be $40 max like Expedition 33, hellblade, alan wake 2, or $50 like Mafia.

Lastly, we are expecting things to change because their console is $450. its not a cheap $200 handheld like switch lite. its literally as expensive as a PS5. it;s 10x more powerful than the switch 1. it's actually a fairly competent machine for a handheld and should easily provide ps4 quality graphics at 60 fps.

anyone charging that much for a console and games should be held to a higher standard. especially first party studios who have a much bigger budget and longer dev cycles.

I definitely don't disagree with you on your point about pricing. Like I said, most Nintendo games honestly aren't for me. But people are more than willing to pay so they're going to price their games to maximize their profit margins like any other company would. Same could be said about them getting away with charging $60 for super barebones re-releases like Tropical Freeze, Captain Toad, New Super Mario Bros. U, etc.. etc.. They've got their customer base by the balls and they'll keep pushing pricing as long as their customers keep paying.


And the Switch 1 launched for $300 in 2017, which equates to about $400 today when adjusted for inflation. And that's not even taking into consideration the uncertainty around tariffs and such.


I would love to see higher fidelity games coming from Nintendo, don't get me wrong. I guess my whole point is that it was a fools errand to ever believe that was going to be the case in the first place. Why are we focusing on Nintendo handheld games in a thread like this? It's just a waste of all of our time.

 

[RodriGames40]

What games was doing this and please don't say something stupid like Red faction, it's a totally different thing and will oly tell me you got no idea waht you are talking about.
And yes this system will also affect how far you can push textures, lighting, geometry etc, that should be obvious if you know enough to try to criticize it.

please

Put the copium down, better looking games will come anyway... You don't have to defend glorified cross gen trash like this so hard, Nintendo themselves will prove you wrong in a year if anything. There are no "system difficulties" in play here other than lazyness and a likely mediocre programming team, like the 90% of japanese game studios out there.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yup, you're fully retarded



Coming in swinging with red faction guerilla which has no terrain destruction is a special kind of brainlet I've rarely seen since being here for over 20 years.

BUT THUMBS UP LOLOLOL, shit on kiddy games LOLOLOLOL

 

[Lethal01]

Put the copium down, better looking games will come anyway... You don't have to defend glorified cross gen trash like this so hard, Nintendo themselves will prove you wrong in a year if anything. There are no "system difficulties" in play here other than lazyness and a likely mediocre programming team, like the 90% of japanese game studios out there.

There wiil be better looking games that dont have near fully deformable terrain, a game without that looking better does not prove anything about the graphic fidelity you should expect from this game.

if you are actually so retardedd you dont understand this is a factor can you please just go slurp some toilet water so that you can do something that takes more thought than your attempts to argue here, cope by nuts in your mouth im tired of people this stupid talking to me.

 

[SlimySnake]

Holy fucking shit. Another chinese UE5 masterpiece. Takes a shit all over these so called first party games. Look at the character models, the cinematics, the incredible lighting and detail. Setpieces and gameplay so cinematic it reminds me of sony exclusives. Only actually next gen. Just holy crap. Who needs Japan when China is literally going God mode.



Honestly, I think I might have consumed way too anti-china propaganda. been watching some of their amazing bridges, and architecture, and these guys arent just IP stealing, copy pasta losers the western media makes them out to be. They are doing some incredible things. The animation work in Wukong sold me, and i am seeing the same thing here. The animations are incredible and thats the one thing you cant copy pasta in UE5. These guys are really talented.

Crazy that they are this good on the first try while japanese studios with literally fifty year history are struggling to push visuals like this.

 

[Edder1]

Yup, you're fully retarded



Coming in swinging with red faction guerilla which has no terrain destruction is a special kind of brainlet I've rarely seen since being here for over 20 years.

BUT THUMBS UP LOLOLOL, shit on kiddy games LOLOLOLOL

Oh yes, we're fully out of insults and calling people tarded because your argument is ass. Cheap fanboy behaviour, I wouldn't expect anything less.

My guy, you must have a very simple mind to be so amazed by basic pre canned animations. I'm sorry for thinking I was arguing with someone who I thought had an ounce of intelligence.

 

[SlimySnake]

Put the copium down, better looking games will come anyway... You don't have to defend glorified cross gen trash like this so hard, Nintendo themselves will prove you wrong in a year if anything. There are no "system difficulties" in play here other than lazyness and a likely mediocre programming team, like the 90% of japanese game studios out there.

nintendo actually confirmed that mario kart world was originally a switch 1 game. defending this is no different than what we saw early in the gen from other fanbases who were defending cross gen trash from both first parties.

 

[Edder1]

if you are actually so retardedd you dont understand this is a factor can you please just go slurp some toilet water so that you can do something that takes more thought than your attempts to argue here, cope by nuts in your mouth im tired of people this stupid talking to me.

Is this basic Nintendo fanboy behaviour, that you end calling people retarded because they are not impressed with Nintendo games? Lol. That is some low level IQ stuff and yet you call others retarded. The irony.

 

[Lethal01]

You're tech illiterate. You know nothing of what's done here.

I think I've been to easy on this thread since I've not wanted to spend too much time defending nintendo games since I can respect wanting to talk about the fidelity possible on the strongest hardware.
But their attempt to talk about Nintendo games just expose such a total lack of understanding on everything graphics related that its insulting that they thing they have any place trying to speak in a graphcis thread.

I want to say they they need to be gatekept out of here but so much idiocy has been concentrated here that I suppose it's better to use the gate to keep their stupidity held in.

 

[Edder1]

nintendo actually confirmed that mario kart world was originally a switch 1 game. defending this is no different than what we saw early in the gen from other fanbases who were defending cross gen trash from both first parties.

And how many of these Nintendo boys were trying to gaslight us here saying it's us that can't see how amazing MK World looks and how it was way too advanced for original Switch? Lol

 

[Buggy Loop]

Oh yes, we're fully out of insults and calling people tarded because your argument is ass. Cheap fanboy behaviour, I wouldn't expect anything less.

My guy, you must have a very simple mind to be so amazed by basic pre canned animations. I'm sorry for thinking I was arguing with someone who I thought had an ounce of intelligence.

You have 0, zero technical knowledge of any of this tech

You still haven't even owned up to the fact you said red faction guerilla when it has no terrain destruction

You're wasting everyone's time here.

Pre-canned animations for fully destructible levels, the level of stupidity to think this is the method used in modern rendering techniques when Deep rock galactic is a closer similarity is again, just showcasing you have no idea what you're talking about. Zero. I laughed out loud when you said pre-canned animations. Not even a year 1 student in programming would suggest something this stupid. Go make a game with destructible environment with pre-canned animations. The most stupid approach to a problem someone could program.

This thread really showcases how much peoples who really look for details in fidelity have no technical background.

Where did I say I'm AMAZED by it btw? You're all just flinging complete nonsense with your comparisons of what games have done this before, pure nonsense. Red faction guerilla is the ultimate nonsense award of the thread though, congrats!

 

[RodriGames40]

Lastly, we are expecting things to change because their console is $450. its not a cheap $200 handheld like switch lite. its literally as expensive as a PS5. it;s 10x more powerful than the switch 1. it's actually a fairly competent machine for a handheld and should easily provide ps4 quality graphics at 60 fps.

For real, I am sure that someone already phrased this argument somewhere but I myself hold that this launch has been very uncharacteristic of Nintendo as a company. Even since they stopped pursuing visual fidelity, Nintendo first party teams still put together phenomenal things that legitimately represented their hardware. Was anyone even expecting stuff like Mario Galaxy and Xenoblade on the freaking Wii? Mario Kart 8 and BOTW on the Wii U? These people were fucking wizards and not even a decade later since Zelda, this is what they are up to? The one time they have the means to deliver next gen visuals in a full decade and this is it? It boggles my mind that there are even people defending it, consider this a rant because I am sick of these gaslighting fanboys.

 

[Edder1]

You have 0, zero technical knowledge of any of this tech

You still haven't even owned up to the fact you said red faction guerilla has no terrain destruction

You're wasting everyone's time here.

Pre-canned animations for fully destructible levels, the level of retardness to think this is the method used in modern rendering techniques when Deep rock galactic is a closer similarity is again, just showcasing you have no idea what you're talking about. Zero. I laughed out loud when you said pre-canned animations.

Go make a game with destructible environment with pre-canned animations. The most stupid approach to a problem someone could program.

This thread really showcases how much peoples who really look for details in fidelity have no technical background.

Where did I say I'm AMAZED by it btw? You're all just flinging complete nonsense with your comparisons of what games have done this before, pure nonsense. Red faction guerilla is the ultimate retard award of the thread though, congrats!

You can't even see how you and your warrior buddies have become laughing stock of this thread . Have some dignity (if you know what that means) and be respectable. Nintendo toys making grown men like you act like thugs online, how embarrassing.

 

[SlimySnake]

I definitely don't disagree with you on your point about pricing. Like I said, most Nintendo games honestly aren't for me. But people are more than willing to pay so they're going to price their games to maximize their profit margins like any other company would. Same could be said about them getting away with charging $60 for super barebones re-releases like Tropical Freeze, Captain Toad, New Super Mario Bros. U, etc.. etc.. They've got their customer base by the balls and they'll keep pushing pricing as long as their customers keep paying.


And the Switch 1 launched for $300 in 2017, which equates to about $400 today when adjusted for inflation. And that's not even taking into consideration the uncertainty around tariffs and such.


I would love to see higher fidelity games coming from Nintendo, don't get me wrong. I guess my whole point is that it was a fools errand to ever believe that was going to be the case in the first place. Why are we focusing on Nintendo handheld games in a thread like this? It's just a waste of all of our time.

Well, nintendo is about 5 years late to the party, charging the same price as modern consoles, so sadly their fanbase is going to bring them up.

I agree that these games should not be brought up here, but its a free country and banning the discussion will only lead to more butthurt feelings. mods will get involved and its best we keep mods out of this thread. its very rare for threads like these to be this lightly moderated so lets not poke the bear. It's best we mock these games or at least set the expectation that this kind of shit does not belong in this thread. we were trashing ghost of tsushima and death stranding 2 for the last few weeks and they actually look great lmao. of course, nintendo games are going to be shat on harder.

 

[RodriGames40]

Holy fucking shit. Another chinese UE5 masterpiece. Takes a shit all over these so called first party games. Look at the character models, the cinematics, the incredible lighting and detail. Setpieces and gameplay so cinematic it reminds me of sony exclusives. Only actually next gen. Just holy crap. Who needs Japan when China is literally going God mode.



Honestly, I think I might have consumed way too anti-china propaganda. been watching some of their amazing bridges, and architecture, and these guys arent just IP stealing, copy pasta losers the western media makes them out to be. They are doing some incredible things. The animation work in Wukong sold me, and i am seeing the same thing here. The animations are incredible and thats the one thing you cant copy pasta in UE5. These guys are really talented.

Crazy that they are this good on the first try while japanese studios with literally fifty year history are struggling to push visuals like this.

Damn, this game is super pretty. China is once again showing how it's done, bizarre world we live in.

 

[SlimySnake]

Damn, this game is super pretty. China is once again showing how it's done, bizarre world we live in.

South korea too. Crimson Desert blew people away with its combat system during a preview event around SGF. so these non-japanese asian studios are pushing both tech and gameplay systems.

i wouldnt be surprised if it turns out to be the wukong of this year, and wins my goty. i have zero faith in the mainstream media to give these games goty awards even if they review well.

 

[Lethal01]

Well, nintendo is about 5 years late to the party, charging the same price as modern consoles, so sadly their fanbase is going to bring them up.

I agree that these games should not be brought up here, but its a free country and banning the discussion will only lead to more butthurt feelings. mods will get involved and its best we keep mods out of this thread. its very rare for threads like these to be this lightly moderated so lets not poke the bear. It's best we mock these games or at least set the expectation that this kind of shit does not belong in this thread. we were trashing ghost of tsushima and death stranding 2 for the last few weeks and they actually look great lmao. of course, nintendo games are going to be shat on harder.

Nah you I've heard to much dumb shit here today from people who know nothing about graphics., from here on out I'm gonna be discussing Nintendo Graphics here 10x as much.

Welcome to my thread

 

[Buggy Loop]

You can't even see how you and your warrior buddies have become laughing stock of this thread . Have some dignity (if you know what that means) and act human and be respectable. Nintendo toys making grown men like you act like a dumbass, how embarrassing.

You won't last long here so who the fuck cares the shit coming out of your mouth.

You're just leaving a trail showcasing how fucking clueless you are. Again, go bring us that video of Red faction guerilla terrain destruction, we're all waiting.

I analyze with technical facts, be it donkey kong or cyberpunk 2077 path tracing. I personally would not have brought DKB into this thread, but none of you trying to guess what it is doing with destruction with your stupid examples like guerilla are even close to it.

Pre-canned animations...

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

Holy fucking shit. Another chinese UE5 masterpiece. Takes a shit all over these so called first party games. Look at the character models, the cinematics, the incredible lighting and detail. Setpieces and gameplay so cinematic it reminds me of sony exclusives. Only actually next gen. Just holy crap. Who needs Japan when China is literally going God mode.



Honestly, I think I might have consumed way too anti-china propaganda. been watching some of their amazing bridges, and architecture, and these guys arent just IP stealing, copy pasta losers the western media makes them out to be. They are doing some incredible things. The animation work in Wukong sold me, and i am seeing the same thing here. The animations are incredible and thats the one thing you cant copy pasta in UE5. These guys are really talented.

Crazy that they are this good on the first try while japanese studios with literally fifty year history are struggling to push visuals like this.

This looks awesome. It actually feels "next gen". The animations, geometric density and special effects are awesome. UE5 is the main engine to give truly next gen visuals.

 

[Edder1]

You won't last long here so who the fuck cares the shit coming out of your mouth.

You're just leaving a trail showcasing how fucking clueless you are. Again, go bring us that video of Red faction guerilla terrain destruction, we're all waiting.

I analyze with technical facts, be it donkey kong or cyberpunk 2077 path tracing. I personally would not have brought DKB into this thread, but none of you trying to guess what it is doing with destruction with your stupid examples like guerilla are even close to it.

Pre-canned animations...

Never thought manchildren like you would be throwing a fit here for a PS Vita looking dog turd of a game... LOL.

And what the heck about that outlasting me here? Lol. I'm glad you have such high ambitions in life....

What a child.

 

[Jack Howitzer]

anyone charging that much for a console and games should be held to a higher standard. especially first party studios who have a much bigger budget and longer dev cycles.

Yeah hardware wise it makes the $2500+ 5090 look like the greatest deal in the century, like Jensen was totally into charity work here for selling the gpus somehow and everyone still talking shit about him endlessly, pretty unfair don't you think?

Why are we focusing on Nintendo handheld games in a thread like this? It's just a waste of all of our time.

Cuz someone in this thread just love to praise these stuff nonstop and force his narrative into others all the time, it's tiresome enough but that's the internet tradition for ya! When a rotten apple spoil the whole barrel, what can we do about it?

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

Guys lets not derail the thread...

 

[Buggy Loop]

Never thought manchildren like you would be throwing a fit here for a PS Vita looking dog turd of a game... LOL.

Yea yea, Its not even PS Vita it's Amiga level, satisfied retard? Nobody gives a shit what you think

Still waiting on your Red faction guerilla video

 

[Lethal01]

Guys lets not derail the thread...

Welcome to my thread Nintendo's latest graphics are the main focus.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Cuz someone in this thread just love to praise these stuff nonstop and force his narrative into others all the time, it's tiresome enough but that's the internet tradition for ya! When a rotten apple spoil the whole barrel, what can we do about it?

Who is that someone? Do tell

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

Why are we focusing on Nintendo handheld games in a thread like this? It's just a waste of all of our time.

Because Switch 2 is more than 2x the power of a PS4 and now Nintendo is charging $80 per game. There is no excuse for any company to be delivering subpar visuals when they have the choice not to. There is no excuse for bad textures etc.

 

[Edder1]

Yea yea, Its not even PS Vita it's Amiga level, satisfied retard? Nobody gives a shit what you think

Still waiting on your Red faction guerilla video

I don't need to post anything and never said I would lol. Footage of that trash DK game that you got your panties in a bunch for is enough evidence. That garbage doesn't belong in this thread.

 

[Lethal01]

Because Switch 2 is more than 2x the power of a PS4 and now Nintendo is charging $80 per game. There is no excuse for any company to be delivering subpar visuals when they have the choice not to. There is no excuse for bad textures etc.

True! it's great how far Nintendo is pushing the hardware by including that level of destruction In Donkey Kong with that lighting and asset quality.

 

[Jack Howitzer]

Who is that someone? Do tell

Why spoil the fun tho? It's an open world everyone can have their own opinions

 

[Lethal01]

Who is that someone? Do tell

Why spoil the fun tho? It's an open world everyone can have their own opinions

Nah, those guys should keep their idiotic takes outta here. Let the rest of us have worthwhile discussions

 

[Buggy Loop]

I don't need to post anything and never said I would lol.

Because you couldn't even if you wanted to capture that footage

Footage of DK trash of a game that you got your panties in a bunch for is enough evidence.

I've said multiple times in this thread, I wouldn't have brought DKB into this place. But someone did.

And all your guess for terrain destruction are laughable, what can I say. I would have argued with you for path tracing if your arguement is as shit too. I have argued with many peoples over path tracing that were totally clueless. I don't give a shit what you think of fidelity of DKB, by trying to go OONGA BUNGA with your little buddies on shitting on the game, you're throwing wild guess on what the game is doing and its all wrong

That garbage doesn't belong in this thread, only fanboys like you keep dragging it here.

I think I'll post even more about it now. Thanks for the motivation. This subject could have died a long time ago if you guys stopped saying random nonsense shit that is so tech illiterate that its SHOCKING someone with so little interest in graphic rendering techniques would hang around this thread. Hell the last two pages would not even exist if gymwolf had not brought it up

 

[Represent.]

Holy Fucking shit. CHINA TAKING ZERO PRISONERS.

China is here and they are here to fucking stay.

They have an army of incredibly talented studios and they work FAST. Just banger after banger.

They are the future.

Japan out here giving us fucking ugly ass Ps3 looking games. The West taking 8 years to make a game.. Meanwhile China out here doing THIS in lightning speed and at 40 million dollar budgets.

TALENT

 

[Represent.]

Damn, this game is super pretty. China is once again showing how it's done, bizarre world we live in.

Its no surprise. Look at their cities, look at their architecture. Look how fast they build. They are way ahead of the game. They will lead the way next gen - book it

Wukong 2 is gonna be goddamn insane ant itll probably be ready in like 2-3 years.

Meanwhile, CORY BARLOG hasnt said a fucking peep about his new game in over 7 years.

 

[Edder1]

Because you couldn't even if you wanted to capture that footage



I've said multiple times in this thread, I wouldn't have brought DKB into this place. But someone did.

And all your guess for terrain destruction are laughable, what can I say. I would have argued with you for path tracing if your arguement is as shit too. I have argued with many peoples over path tracing that were totally clueless. I don't give a shit what you think of fidelity of DKB, by trying to go OONGA BUNGA with your little buddies on shitting on the game, you're throwing wild guess on what the game is doing and its all wrong



I think I'll post even more about it now. Thanks for the motivation. This subject could have died a long time ago if you guys stopped saying random nonsense shit that is so tech illiterate that its SHOCKING someone with so little interest in graphic rendering techniques would hang around this thread. Hell the last two pages would not even exist if gymwolf had not brought it up

You're talking about analysis and yet all you have to do is slow down DK footage to see how all the destruction is just pre canned animations being played over and over again. With your IQ or lack thereof I can see why it's so difficult to see that. And you keep fighting people over this dog ugly looking turd of a game, even calling them retards for disagreeing with you shows rhat you're not interested in any analysis, you're just a dumb fanboy who will defend Nintendo slop no matter what. Go bother someone else with your stupidity.

 

[RodriGames40]

Its no surprise. Look at their cities, look at their architecture. Look how fast they build. They are way ahead of the game. They will lead the way next gen - book it

Wukong 2 is gonna be goddamn insane ant itll probably be ready in like 2-3 years.

Meanwhile, CORY BARLOG hasnt said a fucking peep about his new game in over 7 years.

It's incredibly how quickly they scaled up their development efforts. Wukong was a first time attempt, first time... Whenever I am reminded of that I can definitely see how this game is such a grand leap over it.

 

[March Climber]

Damn, this game is super pretty. China is once again showing how it's done, bizarre world we live in.

Every region gets a turn on the carousel. The better gamer adapts, the others whine until their favorites get another turn.

 

[Represent.]

It's incredibly how quickly they scaled up their development efforts. Wukong was a first time attempt, first time... Whenever I am reminded of that I can definitely see how this game is such a grand leap over it.

Indeed. Wukong being a first time game was a HUGE foreshadowing. That team made nothing but fucking mobile games before Wukong. insane. Wait til they start making sequels...

 

[SlimySnake]

Its no surprise. Look at their cities, look at their architecture. Look how fast they build. They are way ahead of the game. They will lead the way next gen - book it

Wukong 2 is gonna be goddamn insane ant itll probably be ready in like 2-3 years.

Meanwhile, CORY BARLOG hasnt said a fucking peep about his new game in over 7 years.

Cory has always been this way. He chose to make GOW2 on the ps2 for some fucking reason even though the dev started AFTer the PS3 was revealed in 2005. he then quit gow3 after just a couple of months because of 'stress' then wasted the next 6 years trying to make a mad men game he never made. he got lucky with gow 2018 because sony fired stig after cancelling his new IP, leaving cory with all the best talent at SSM. He then wasted that talent after deciding to make yet another last gen gow. one he himself chose not to direct.

Being unproductive is his strong suit.

Druckman is who really disappointed me. ND used to churn out games every 2-3 years up until 2020. They just stopped after Druckman was made CEO.

Maybe we need CCP to run these western studios. lol

 

[Edder1]

The west is stagnant. Weatern culture is pretty much on its dying legs and it can be seen in everything from how western countries are run to lack of innovation and new ideas.

 

[Represent.]

Animations are incredible

 

[SlimySnake]

The west is stagnant. Weatern culture is pretty much on its dying legs and it can be seen in everything from how western countries are run to lack of innovation and new ideas.

at least the west delivered on graphics this gen. they've been stagnant on gameplay ideas overall, although expedition 33 is a rare exception.

japan on the other hand. stagnant both gameplay and graphics wise. everything is souls. everything looks like it was made in the late ps3 early ps4 era.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Nah, those guys should keep their idiotic takes outta here. Let the rest of us have worthwhile discussions

Btw, imo Deep rock galactic's marching cube solution is too low res compared to what we see here. Its more evolved than voxels but is voxel-based, marching cubes smooth out terrain but they still look low poly, just like deep rock galactic in fact where you can see the same as the demo.



DK could always be using similar technique and hide the edges with a ton of mesh shader work

Or you could just do it in one pass with mesh shaders

Or Enshrouded's Dual Contouring on the voxels which are alrogithms to polygonize voxel surfaces, but LOD have issues with those, full game would reveal more I guess.

There's not many solutions around to make it work. If they moved away from a voxel solution then it would only be possible with mesh shaders I would imagine.

 

[Msamy]

Holy Fucking shit. CHINA TAKING ZERO PRISONERS.

China is here and they are here to fucking stay.

They have an army of incredibly talented studios and they work FAST. Just banger after banger.

They are the future.

Japan out here giving us fucking ugly ass Ps3 looking games. The West taking 8 years to make a game.. Meanwhile China out here doing THIS in lightning speed and at 40 million dollar budgets.

TALENT

Amazing

 

[Balducci30]

Holy fucking shit. Another chinese UE5 masterpiece. Takes a shit all over these so called first party games. Look at the character models, the cinematics, the incredible lighting and detail. Setpieces and gameplay so cinematic it reminds me of sony exclusives. Only actually next gen. Just holy crap. Who needs Japan when China is literally going God mode.



Honestly, I think I might have consumed way too anti-china propaganda. been watching some of their amazing bridges, and architecture, and these guys arent just IP stealing, copy pasta losers the western media makes them out to be. They are doing some incredible things. The animation work in Wukong sold me, and i am seeing the same thing here. The animations are incredible and thats the one thing you cant copy pasta in UE5. These guys are really talented.

Crazy that they are this good on the first try while japanese studios with literally fifty year history are struggling to push visuals like this.

So literally every game from China somehow looks better than all the first party Sony and Xbox games… how? Why?

 

[SlimySnake]

So literally every game from China somehow looks better than all the first party Sony and Xbox games… how? Why?

lol come on. you've been here long enough. you know the reasons behind the how and the why.