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[kpopSuperstar]

The thing that really sucks too is that the Batman and Superman appearing on screen together for the first time, was a novelty back then. That's what made it such an event. That novelty is gone now, and it was done in such a disasterous way. WB and Snyder completely blew it. I'm sure we'll see them together again, but it won't have the same impact.



This is all true too, but it also lends credit to what I was saying earlier. Man of Steel had much better circumstances surrounding it to pave a path towards success, while Superman 25 has had way more working against it.

There are still succesful CBMs, but it's not close to what it used to be. Thunderbolts for example got amazing wom with an A cinemascore and great reviews, but it didn't crack $400m WW. Cap 4 landed somewhere in the $400m park. Quantumania did around $460m WW. It's not just DC that's struggling, the whole genre is, especially overseas. They're mostly done with Superheroes.

I'm just saying if people are going to bring up Man of Steel's BO performance in a way to put down Superman 25, they need to be aware that we're just living in different times now.

Well, this was the big reboot helmed by James Gunn. The start of the new DCU. There is some weight on it.

I think the main issue here is that it lacks characters. Nobody gives a fuck about the Thunderbolts, no one got any connection to this new Superman, the new Captain America feels like a budget version of Captain America.

But when you have beloved characters like Wolverine and Deadpool with known actors, people show up.

They need to build this new Superman into something people like and want to follow, not just assume that people wanna watch Superman.

 

[Superkewl]

Wouldn't say Batman comes out unscathed either, dude's a bit unhinged in that movie with the branding criminals, using firearms, all the property damage he causes with his wheels and killing people.

Might be an unpopular take, but Bat-fleck is my favourite batman. I liked him in BvS.

 

[Lambogenie]

Well, this was the big reboot helmed by James Gunn. The start of the new DCU. There is some weight on it.

I think the main issue here is that it lacks characters. Nobody gives a fuck about the Thunderbolts, no one got any connection to this new Superman, the new Captain America feels like a budget version of Captain America.

But when you have beloved characters like Wolverine and Deadpool with known actors, people show up.

They need to build this new Superman into something people like and want to follow, not just assume that people wanna watch Superman.

I dunno, I feel like there is some down play happening when folks say there is connection to this new Superman. No previous connection, sure, but I think the majority agree this version is good or not bad at worst, with visual appeal and acting charm. Completely anecdotal, but the light heartedness seems to resonate a lot with kids than Snyder's did, which to me is understandable. I think a lot of people have been won over by this Superman already, even for the distractions elsewhere in the movie.

 

[IDKFA]

Saw it at the weekend. I enjoyed it. A little bit messy with a lot going on, but overall a very decent Superman film. I also didn't hate Krypto.

Hoping it does well enough for a sequel. However, I think any sequel should cut back on the amount of extended characters and just focus on Superman. Also, please make Brainiac the antagonist.

 

[Gp1]

Might be an unpopular take, but Bat-fleck is my favourite batman. I liked him in BvS.

One of my favorite Batman scenes considering every Batman movie.



Mental Bat Afleck>>>Punished BatBale

 

[Superkewl]

One of my favorite Batman scenes considering every Batman movie.



Mental Bat Afleck>>>Punished BatBale

I loved the warehouse fight scene as well.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I dunno, I feel like there is some down play happening when folks say there is connection to this new Superman. No previous connection, sure, but I think the majority agree this version is good or not bad at worst, with visual appeal and acting charm. Completely anecdotal, but the light heartedness seems to resonate a lot with kids than Snyder's did, which to me is understandable. I think a lot of people have been won over by this Superman already, even for the distractions elsewhere in the movie.

I agree that the Superman in the film was excellent, but what I mean is that we didn't have a connection to him from before.

Nobody knew anything about this Superman, so people aren't going to the cinema in the numbers they need.

While someone like Robert Downey Jr., after three Iron Man films, became a thing that people wanna see meet the other heroes. They wanna see him banter with Thor and take on the world, because they got to know him.

They need to build this Superman into a character people will pay to see. They need to make Superman 2 and make him their Iron Man. He should be the pillar of the DCU.

 

[DeafTourette]

Might be an unpopular take, but Bat-fleck is my favourite batman. I liked him in BvS.

He's mine too!

 

[jason10mm]

One of my favorite Batman scenes considering every Batman movie.

Mental Bat Afleck>>>Punished BatBale

He's mine too!

What the fuck is wrong with you people??? There is, and will ONLY EVER, be ONE Best Batman!

 

[Alex11]

Saw it, it's Guardians of the Galaxy mixed with Superman, the plot is just nonsense and that's ok, it's not a serious movie, I guess it doesn't need to be, it's a comic book movie after all.
It didn't seem to me that he was weak or gets beaten a lot, I will say that the fight scenes are nowhere near Man of Steel, they were just basic, nothing spectacular.

The best thing in this movie for me was that Supes is doing everything he can to not kill anybody.

What bothered me was the Marvel humor, joke, joke, joke, too much and it's like there's no other type of humor in the world. And that Lex took his dog thing, that whole scene looked like something of a John Wick-Superman skit/parody.

 

[Doom85]

Keaton is the best Batman…until Pattinson.
Bale is the best Bruce.
Affleck is not the best in either, but has the best balance of the two identities (in performance, the writing in BvS often holds him back).

My personal favorite?

Yes, the Batman voice can be a little much at times, but the acting, directing, and writing elevate it and his movies for me to the best. The Batman (2022) is excellent, but just a little under it for me.

Batman '89 is great as a movie and I enjoy it, but it's definitely not my ideal Batman adaptation. Batman kills on occasion (one time with a psychotic grin on his face, WTF. Granted, that might be Returns, can't remember), and amid a few other issues, I detest the idea of Joker being the Waynes' killer. With it being Joe Chill or just a random guy, it's the idea that crime itself took Bruce's parents from him, so he fights crime to do everything he can to prevent that from happening to anyone else. But by making it so the killer is this massively important figure, THE villain of the Batman mythos, it removes that feeling of it and makes it instead a generic "main villain killed hero's parents" story that even by 1989 had been done to death. Plus, Joker having a definitive backstory, always a shit idea in a Batman story (a BATMAN story, so Joker 2019 is fine to do as it was never intended to lead into a Batman film of that universe. The sequel can die in a fire but for other entirely different reasons altogether). Also, Joker's makeup isn't well done enough to hide the fact that I'm just looking at Jack Nicholson, something Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix's makeup didn't have an issue with.

Batman Returns is just meh to me. Penguin having this tragic backstory is interesting but I feel it ultimately doesn't add as much as it should, I don't find Returns' handling of Catwoman that interesting, and the movie just ends apparently having forgotten the whole "Batman is framed for murder" plot (yes, fans have explained how that could have been resolved off screen, but the movie itself should resolve a major aspect of the film).

And that's it for live-action Batman films (well, and the Adam West one). There definitely wasn't two more in the 90's that happened. Definitely not.

 

[March Climber]

If there were ever a Batman Beyond movie, I would want Terry to have the moodiness of Pattison with the brevity and suave demeanor of Val Kilmer.

 

[jason10mm]

If there were ever a Batman Beyond movie, I would want Terry to have the moodiness of Pattison with the brevity and suave demeanor of Val Kilmer.

I'm just mad that DC slept on BB for so long that we can't get Clint Eastwood as "Old man Wayne".

At this point it'll be John Hamm in 5-10 years, though Keaton still gots it if they wanna do it now (and The Flash hasn't spoilt it).

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I agree. The genre is not as powerful as it once was. Years of overexploitation of characters and IPs will do that. Hollywood treated these IPs like some sort of coal mine. Few stories feel unique and done with care and more and more feel like corporate products meant to respond to another corporate product. Hollywood ruined this genre. The shift in quality from the superhero movies we had from 2001-2014 to 2018 and onwards is mindboggling.

Once it became about sustaining a Cinematic Universe with 3-5 factory assembled movies every year, no one should be surprised all the heart and soul vanished too

Disney basically set back the superhero genre a century with their squeezing of blood from the stone with MCU, people are so tired of capeshit now and we're seeing it with declining BO results. Superman 25 might break $500M global BO but that might only be enough for WB to break even on production costs, hardly a smashing success for them

 

[Doom85]

If there were ever a Batman Beyond movie, I would want Terry to have the moodiness of Pattison with the brevity and suave demeanor of Val Kilmer.

Honestly, THAT'S what The Batman (2022) should stick to leading towards and not be part of the DCU. Keep Batman in The Batman 2022 universe as a solo Batman who never gains any protégés or such during his years as Batman, while having the DCU Batman with a pre established Batfamily and introduce Damian Wayne.

Like, I enjoy the Beyond cartoon, but it unfortunately comes at the expense of the Batfamily as Bruce Wayne randomly has pushed away all his friends and allies (despite Justice League/JLU steering him in the total opposite direction, hence the randomness of it). And, I like Terry, but a few seasons of one show can't compete with the decades of stories and team ups that Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, Barbara Gordon, Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, etc. have been given in the comics.

Let The Batman stay as its own thing, then have it lead to Batman Beyond once Pattinson is old enough to believably play a guy old enough he needs to retire.

 

[jason10mm]

And that's it for live-action Batman films (well, and the Adam West one). There definitely wasn't two more in the 90's that happened. Definitely not.

Ahhh, what you got against redheads????

and to be honest, I'd LOVE to see this guy reprise his role now that he has a few decades under his belt...

 

[Doom85]

Uma Thurman I was never particularly attracted to.

and to be honest, I'd LOVE to see this guy reprise his role now that he has a few decades under his belt...

I too would love to see Jim Carrey, who is a talented actor, actually play an intelligent but overly smug asshole AKA The Riddler, rather than the overly caffeinated manchild we got in Forever. That movie completely wasted him, Tommy Lee Jones, and Val Kilmer who were all well cast but given a shit script and direction.

 

[Represent.]

This shit was way too light hearted and comedic for me. Never watched the trailers at all so I wasnt expecting that. Took me off guard.

I don't mind lighthearted comic book stuff but the action has to be truly elite for me to enjoy it and it wasn't here.

Also. Why the hell did superman keep getting g his ass beat? I felt like he was on the ground for half the movie. Wanted to see him be fucking SUPERMAN more.

The light lasers vs army scene was the highlight. Awesome scene. Wish they stretched that whole 1 vs 1000 thing out another 5 minutes

6/10

 

[Lambogenie]

What the fuck is wrong with you people??? There is, and will ONLY EVER, be ONE Best Batman!

Me too. Ben Affleck.

Maybe it's the fact it's Ben Affleck that made it hard to admit. But it's true, he was good.

 

[The Skull]

Saw it in IMAX on Sunday. Enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Some things don't land but overall I'd give it a solid 8/10. Hoult was a really good Luthor. Casting overall was spot on.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Affleck was bad ass as Batman. Personally I have a soft spot for the Snyder verse. I like MoS, I like BvS Extended and I love Justice League Snyder Cut. I liked how gritty it was. Batman was pissed off here, Alfred too. Affleck pulled him off well. Choreography blows Nolanverse out of the water.

But DC EU didn't go anywhere. It was more a case of aping MCU, like how haphazardly the other metahumans were introduced on a laptop in BvS was it?

I have faith in what Gunn wants to do. First of all, his Superman is fun. Its just entertainment and it doesn't overstay its welcome. This is what MCU started to forget over time and they are at an all time low right now.

Supergirl seems to be completely fucked up, I wouldn't be surprised if its humor and gore go towards Peacemaker. Clayface is reportedly a body horror movie penned by Mike Flanagan, which is ballsy as fuck. You have to give them some credit for the stuff they are going to attempt. Meanwhile MCU will likely continue running their scripts through ChatGPT and woke curators.

 

[Power Pro]

I unironically like the extended version of Batman v Superman. It actually makes the movie make a little more sense, and yeah, Affleck was great as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Snyder Cut Justice League though is...eh....way too long, and not very good.

 

[AJUMP23]

Might be an unpopular take, but Bat-fleck is my favourite batman. I liked him in BvS.

Her name was MARTHA-----We are best friends now.

Afleck was fine. The movies were mediocre.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

I unironically like the extended version of Batman v Superman.

I can get that. I sincerely like the Snyder Cut Justice League movie.

 

[VulcanRaven]

 

[Madflavor]

$13.5 million on Monday, and $17 million on Tuesday. These are great holds, and indicitive of really good legs.

 

[Superkewl]

What the fuck is wrong with you people??? There is, and will ONLY EVER, be ONE Best Batman!

Whenever I see Michael Keaton, all I see is Mr. Mom, lol.

 

[DeafTourette]

For the people complaining that Superman got his ass beat by Ultraman (and sorta by The Engineer), you all are forgetting a core tenet of Superman's psychology: he holds back.

Ultraman was NOT holding back, hence him pummeling Clark so much that he bled and had bones broken or dislocated. Even through all he was going through, he still holds back (this is true in the comics too) because he knows his power can hurt bystanders or other Innocents.

 

[DKehoe]

For the people complaining that Superman got his ass beat by Ultraman (and sorta by The Engineer), you all are forgetting a core tenet of Superman's psychology: he holds back.

Ultraman was NOT holding back, hence him pummeling Clark so much that he bled and had bones broken or dislocated. Even through all he was going through, he still holds back (this is true in the comics too) because he knows his power can hurt bystanders or other Innocents.

I also think that Superman being an established figure but just lost a fight for the first time is an interesting point to pick up a Superman story.

 

[Revolutionary]

 

[Lambogenie]

Nice marketing link.

Is Superman in it though? They really need to keep the momentum strong, so if Supes is in it, for even 20 minutes and marketed, it'd be great.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I really feel bad for people who sit there and say this was "mid" and would never watch this again. Like how damaged you got to be.

Knives out 2 was mid
The Last Jedi was mid
Man of Steel was Mid

This had heart

I don't think calling people damaged because they felt meh about this movie is the move my man. People like different things.

 

[jason10mm]

Nice marketing link.

Is Superman in it though? They really need to keep the momentum strong, so if Supes is in it, for even 20 minutes and marketed, it'd be great.

He has to be, right? If only to bookend the film (i.e. her getting krypto from him is the beginning [or end] of the film).

Though I guess it depends on how easy it is to travel around. If she is in the shit, millions of lives are on the line, only a kryptonian has the power to save the day, and a SECOND kyrptonian is just a FIVE MINUTE call/portal trip away, why wouldn't you call him? But if Earth is weeks away, then shes gotta handle it on her own. A proper sense of time and space is something that has been very lacking in cosmic super hero, Star Wars, and Star Trek of late. Really only The Expanse made it seem like it took time to move around and those guys were deliberately vague about travel time because they KNEW some nerds would run the calculations to prove the trips couldn't be done

 

[DeafTourette]

The belt looks different than what she had in the movie

 

[Doom85]

He has to be, right? If only to bookend the film (i.e. her getting krypto from him is the beginning [or end] of the film).

Though I guess it depends on how easy it is to travel around. If she is in the shit, millions of lives are on the line, only a kryptonian has the power to save the day, and a SECOND kyrptonian is just a FIVE MINUTE call/portal trip away, why wouldn't you call him? But if Earth is weeks away, then shes gotta handle it on her own. A proper sense of time and space is something that has been very lacking in cosmic super hero, Star Wars, and Star Trek of late. Really only The Expanse made it seem like it took time to move around and those guys were deliberately vague about travel time because they KNEW some nerds would run the calculations to prove the trips couldn't be done

The Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow story they're adapting is not one where millions of live are on the line. It's a much more personal story, where an alien girl named Ruthye has had her father murdered by a man named Krem. Upon finding Supergirl on her planet, enjoying her 21st birthday by being on a planet with a red sun so she can get drunk, Ruthye hires her to hunt down her father's murderer and bring him to justice, as Krem, upon discovering the sort of person the girl has hired, flees. So the story is focused on Supergirl/Kara and Ruthye traveling through the galaxy on a hunt to find this killer, and Kara trying to help Ruthye deal with the larger and sometimes cruel and strange outside world she has never seen, while also discussing with her how Ruthye will define "justice" when she finds her father's killer. They also do some nice parallels between Ruthye and the fond memories of her father, and Kara and the fond memories of the time with her father even as their home city of Kandor continued to head towards a very dark conclusion.

The writer, Tom King, made it no secret how much True Grit influenced the story in case you picked up a few similarities there.

It'll be nice as it immediately offers a very different story from the preceding film despite both starring a Super___ as the lead. Superman 2025 is an entirely Earth-based story with a large assortment of superheroes and supervillains all connected to the central conflict of Superman vs. Lex Luthor. Supergirl 2026 will be an entirely galactic journey with zero Earth presence and focused on only one superhero character as she helps this alien girl throughout the strange worlds they go to in a very character-focused story.

Jason Momoa in his new role as Lobo will have a small role in it, so there is a bit of film universe building to it.

 

[Doom85]

The belt looks different than what she had in the movie

So, Deaf, you remembered what every spot of her outfit looked like, eh? I'm sure for comic accuracy purposes only, of course!

(just kidding, my apologies if I'm remembering wrong, but I think you once told me you're older than me, I'm 38, and not so much into women in their 20's anymore, right? My bad if I'm thinking of someone else)

 

[Revolutionary]

I didn't notice the blood spatter on her hands:

This movie is going to be the polar opposite of the 1984 Supergirl, where she's depicted as a stereotypical girly girl that plays with bunnies and ponies

Nice marketing link.

Is Superman in it though? They really need to keep the momentum strong, so if Supes is in it, for even 20 minutes and marketed, it'd be great.

I don't recall him showing up in Woman of Tomorrow (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but he'll probably show up for a cameo like Kara did in this movie.

 

[DeafTourette]

So, Deaf, you remembered what every spot of her outfit looked like, eh? I'm sure for comic accuracy purposes only, of course!

(just kidding, my apologies if I'm remembering wrong, but I think you once told me you're older than me, I'm 38, and not so much into women in their 20's anymore, right? My bad if I'm thinking of someone else)

Naw, you're remembering right. I'm about to be 51. I can see young women as pretty and/or attractive but romantically, they do nothing for me.

And I only remember her belt ... I'm sure there's a picture on the net of her costume... That's one movie I'm looking forward to (the way James Gunn did her reveal was better than a post credits scene)

 

[DKehoe]

The Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow story they're adapting is not one where millions of live are on the line. It's a much more personal story, where an alien girl named Ruthye has had her father murdered by a man named Krem. Upon finding Supergirl on her planet, enjoying her 21st birthday by being on a planet with a red sun so she can get drunk, Ruthye hires her to hunt down her father's murderer and bring him to justice, as Krem, upon discovering the sort of person the girl has hired, flees. So the story is focused on Supergirl/Kara and Ruthye traveling through the galaxy on a hunt to find this killer, and Kara trying to help Ruthye deal with the larger and sometimes cruel and strange outside world she has never seen, while also discussing with her how Ruthye will define "justice" when she finds her father's killer. They also do some nice parallels between Ruthye and the fond memories of her father, and Kara and the fond memories of the time with her father even as their home city of Kandor continued to head towards a very dark conclusion.

The writer, Tom King, made it no secret how much True Grit influenced the story in case you picked up a few similarities there.

It'll be nice as it immediately offers a very different story from the preceding film despite both starring a Super___ as the lead. Superman 2025 is an entirely Earth-based story with a large assortment of superheroes and supervillains all connected to the central conflict of Superman vs. Lex Luthor. Supergirl 2026 will be an entirely galactic journey with zero Earth presence and focused on only one superhero character as she helps this alien girl throughout the strange worlds they go to in a very character-focused story.

Jason Momoa in his new role as Lobo will have a small role in it, so there is a bit of film universe building to it.

Lobo being in this means I would guess that they're making some changes to the story. So it might not strictly follow Woman of Tomorrow. But yeh I would expect it will be almost entirely based in space/on other worlds. Maybe we'll get a brief bit at the start with Superman where she's heading off. But there's a good chance the film opens in the bar.

As for the belt, the one she wears in Woman of Tomorrow is quite prominent so I would guess it's a nod to that.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

That image and the way she acted at the end of the movie, makes me feel like they're going to lean into that aspect of the comic hard and make it all "fun" and "jokey".

 

[DeafTourette]

At the end of Superman...

 

[jason10mm]

The Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow story they're adapting is not one where millions of live are on the line. It's a much more personal story, where an alien girl named Ruthye has had her father murdered by a man named Krem. Upon finding Supergirl on her planet, enjoying her 21st birthday by being on a planet with a red sun so she can get drunk, Ruthye hires her to hunt down her father's murderer and bring him to justice, as Krem, upon discovering the sort of person the girl has hired, flees. So the story is focused on Supergirl/Kara and Ruthye traveling through the galaxy on a hunt to find this killer, and Kara trying to help Ruthye deal with the larger and sometimes cruel and strange outside world she has never seen, while also discussing with her how Ruthye will define "justice" when she finds her father's killer. They also do some nice parallels between Ruthye and the fond memories of her father, and Kara and the fond memories of the time with her father even as their home city of Kandor continued to head towards a very dark conclusion.

The writer, Tom King, made it no secret how much True Grit influenced the story in case you picked up a few similarities there.

It'll be nice as it immediately offers a very different story from the preceding film despite both starring a Super___ as the lead. Superman 2025 is an entirely Earth-based story with a large assortment of superheroes and supervillains all connected to the central conflict of Superman vs. Lex Luthor. Supergirl 2026 will be an entirely galactic journey with zero Earth presence and focused on only one superhero character as she helps this alien girl throughout the strange worlds they go to in a very character-focused story.

Jason Momoa in his new role as Lobo will have a small role in it, so there is a bit of film universe building to it.

Hope you are correct. I've a feeling that in order to "create stakes" they will have to put a planet at risk, but maybe she's mostly depowered under alien suns so they can keep the focus small but still with a sense of threat. Hope the ending isn't just a long CG cartoon. Can't say that the director (Craig Gillespie) has a track record that inspires a whole lot of confidence, he has virtually no action credentials and really only The Finest Hours and Fright Night are even remotely close to what I'd expect from a Supergirl film. But commercial/music video directors have surprised me before so we'll see.

 

[Doom85]

Lobo being in this means I would guess that they're making some changes to the story.

We'll see. Initial reports said it was a small role but that's subject to change. We know filming went from January to May, and Momoa finished filming in April, but we don't know when he was first needed to be on set.

I feel you can't put a character like Lobo in a story like this for too long. Honestly I'm expecting him to peace out halfway through in an intentional comedic way or tell off Krem if the latter hires him as a bodyguard under false pretenses: I'm thinking Krem tries to claim an entire armed force is pursuing him, but when Lobo eventually discovers it's just Kara and Ruthye, the latter just being a child, he tells Krem:

Lobo: "Listen, whether we're talking a regular meatbag, Kryptonian, Green Lantern, makes no difference. You got a fair fight you're running from: one versus one. And you got the nerve to lie to me about that? Let me make something perfectly clear: the Main Man don't work for no cowardly shithead who can't handle a fair fight."
Krem: "But how do I beat her?! Have you seen-"
Logo: "Yeah, I've seen it, hell, I tangled with her cousin once! Good times! Make no mistake, the number is fair! One versus one! But…(sly grin appears), that don't mean you have to fight fair!"
Krem: "Right. But how-"
Lobo: "Shit, meatbag, are you capable of even wiping your own ass?! Figure it out yourself! I never needed to use my brains, I just charge straight in, and, well, it mostly works out for me. All right, and that's the full payment you now owe me: compensation for lying like a little bitch, as well as offering you some most generous advice. Unless…you got a problem with that?" (leans in close)
(Krem rapidly pulls out a small device and transfers the money)
Lobo: "Heh, pleasure doing business with you. Now, get out of my sight."

 

[DKehoe]

We'll see. Initial reports said it was a small role but that's subject to change. We know filming went from January to May, and Momoa finished filming in April, but we don't know when he was first needed to be on set.

I feel you can't put a character like Lobo in a story like this for too long. Honestly I'm expecting him to peace out halfway through in an intentional comedic way or tell off Krem if the latter hires him as a bodyguard under false pretenses: I'm thinking Krem tries to claim an entire armed force is pursuing him, but when Lobo eventually discovers it's just Kara and Ruthye, the latter just being a child, he tells Krem:

Lobo: "Listen, whether we're talking a regular meatbag, Kryptonian, Green Lantern, makes no difference. You got a fair fight you're running from: one versus one. And you got the nerve to lie to me about that? Let me make something perfectly clear: the Main Man don't work for no cowardly shithead who can't handle a fair fight."
Krem: "But how do I beat her?! Have you seen-"
Logo: "Yeah, I've seen it, hell, I tangled with her cousin once! Good times! Make no mistake, the number is fair! One versus one! But…(sly grin appears), that don't mean you have to fight fair!"
Krem: "Right. But how-"
Lobo: "Shit, meatbag, are you capable of even wiping your own ass?! Figure it out yourself! I never needed to use my brains, I just charge straight in, and, well, it mostly works out for me. All right, and that's the full payment you now owe me: compensation for lying like a little bitch, as well as offering you some most generous advice. Unless…you got a problem with that?" (leans in close)
(Krem rapidly pulls out a small device and transfers the money)
Lobo: "Heh, pleasure doing business with you. Now, get out of my sight."

I could see that, I'd wondered if some other group Krem has wronged has put out a bounty on Krem and Lobo has taken that up. So Kara and Ruthye need to get to Krem before Lobo does.

 

[Doom85]

I could see that, I'd wondered if some other group Krem has wronged has put out a bounty on Krem and Lobo has taken that up. So Kara and Ruthye need to get to Krem before Lobo does.

That was another idea I had.

Spoiler

I remember Krem at one point obtains that rare device that can teleport an attacker to anywhere randomly in the galaxy. They could change it so he has two of them, so that he has a backup in case he misses with the first one. As he's stressing to the few henchman he has with him on the importance of these devices and how essential they are to Krem's survival, Lobo suddenly zooms in from above, laughing maniacally and announcing his incoming capture of Krem. Panicking, a henchman grabs one of the devices and hurls it at Lobo.

Lobo: "OH YEAH, BOYS AND GIRLS, BETTER START CRYING! THE MAIN MAN IS HERE TO, HEY, wait, what's, OH WHAT THE FU-"
(Lobo vanishes as the device hits him)
Krem: "…"
Henchmen: "…"
Krem: "Okay, let me make this perfectly clear. Our now ONE device is essential to my survival!"

 

[Ememee]

If there were ever a Batman Beyond movie, I would want Terry to have the moodiness of Pattison with the brevity and suave demeanor of Val Kilmer.

That sounds like Austin Butler

That image and the way she acted at the end of the movie, makes me feel like they're going to lean into that aspect of the comic hard and make it all "fun" and "jokey".

If it's executed well, I can see Supergirl being an even bigger hit.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

If it's executed well, I can see Supergirl being an even bigger hit.

it's never executed well.

 

[March Climber]

That image and the way she acted at the end of the movie, makes me feel like they're going to lean into that aspect of the comic hard and make it all "fun" and "jokey".

There's two ways that they can take it. The way you just said...or... it can surprise us by being another Thunderbolts*.

By that I mean it can touch on emotionally close themes just enough to leave a good impact. Honestly hoping for the latter and that her end scene in this movie was simply the way it was to match the tone of the entire movie, because it would have been odd to have Supergirl arrive not just drunk, but drunk and depressed, after such a bright and jovial film.

 

[Doom85]

There's two ways that they can take it. The way you just said...or... it can surprise us by being another Thunderbolts*.

By that I mean it can touch on emotionally close themes just enough to leave a good impact. Honestly hoping for the latter and that her end scene in this movie was simply the way it was to match the tone of the entire movie, because it would have been odd to have Supergirl arrive not just drunk, but drunk and depressed, after such a bright and jovial film.

The fact that they moved her movie up in their production schedule because they were surprised how quickly a satisfying script was completed (as James Gunn has said no production will begin until a finalized script they're happy with is completed) is really promising IMHO.

 

[jason10mm]

No one is gonna go see a Supergirl film with no one famous in it. Unknown female lead in a superhero film? That's box office poison. OF COURSE Lobo is gonna feature prominently in the marketing and will probably be in most of the film. Hell, Taylor Swift could be playing Supergirl and it's still be a risky move. Wonder Woman hit at the height of comic book fervor, Gal Gadot was way more famous, and she had a much stronger lead in with BvS.

Hopefully the budget is modest so it has a fighting chance.