Vlodril
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How games are showcased are up to the pr department at ms not the studio. There are plans for these things. That you haven't seen anything doesn't mean there isn't anything there.
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Contraband cancelled- Schreiet
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How games are showcased are up to the pr department at ms not the studio. There are plans for these things. That you haven't seen anything doesn't mean there isn't anything there.
In the hope that Kojima actually delivers a game which is more than can be said about MS' own studios.
i am hoping so
this 1000%
same with valve and steam.
Did it say anywhere that was GAAS? For what I watched from the CGI trailer right now, it's a co-op game, being that doesn't make it GAAS, does it?
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Badlucktroll
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off t but why do we hate destin?????Yes, while we all hate Destin, in this case he's literally just reposting a tweet.
wtf rage 2 was that late??????????????????
same some will save the halo ip.
rage 2 is good come on now covid is the answer.
yes
Matsuchezz
Member
MS sucks, they have no taste in gaming, produce turd after turd. and their fans keep enjoying them like they are masterpieces.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
He has that face.
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Sounds like he's gonna deliver a tech demo proof of concept with OD.
StreetsofBeige
Member
I've only seen a handful of his videos. The ones I saw where it's a group discussion he acts all weird. I didnt know anything about him going into it, but I honestly thought he had mental issues or had autism or something. Weird guy. But then I saw some of his solo videos and he seemed like a good guy speaking clearly.
simpatico
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If I'm a publisher, any game that isn't playable start to finish after 3 years, gets canceled. Last year can only be polish and refinement. Only exceptions to this would be the absolute heaviest of hitters. I'd still milestone them harshly, just find a different marker. Only exceptions would be the GTAs, Elder Scrolls of the world. I still do not believe the dev times need to be as long as they are. Everyone else is convinced because a man with an unkept beard and graphic t shirt told them so. Sure you probably could spend 8 years making Avowed or DA: Vag Guard, but I don't think it's necessary. Half Life Alyx - 4 years. Metro Exodus 4 years. Resident Evil Village 3.5 years. Control 3.5 years.
Unless Contraband was in the polishing stages, I would have canned it to. And I love that developer.
Unless Contraband was in the polishing stages, I would have canned it to. And I love that developer.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Microsoft don't own the studio? They agreed to fund the game that's it, the studio itself is privately owned company that creates games.
demigod
Member
So explain to us why ms funded this studio for 5 years and not get any gameplay or screenshots? Such incompetence from the person doing the funding.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Did you read my actual comment that you're quoting saying Sony & Microsoft fumbled giving these studios too much leeway while seeing nothing promising in return?
I'm sure they where shown something, there's been a breakdown but and they need better oversight and people in positions monitoring these companies and milestones being hit before more funds are released.
semiconscious
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not the same avalanche:
hogwarts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche_Software
just cause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche_Studios_Group
SantaC
Member
Not the same studio
They paid blur studios half a million for a CG trailer and spent 4 years making a live service game that was deemed unsalvageable.
I think MS needs to be way more involved in its studios development and making sure it's going in the right direction but this was a hard miss from the avalanche leadership to start with.
I think MS needs to be way more involved in its studios development and making sure it's going in the right direction but this was a hard miss from the avalanche leadership to start with.
geary
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Different Avalanche
Orbital2060
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Not a single screenshot of gameplay after 4 years?
Memati187
Member
Lmao, I can see them sending this upfront.
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
Destin just like me for real
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You're making it sound like the cancelation was fully justified, not having anything to show after 5 years on the devs behalf
why what did i do??
wow i did not there were two different Avalanche game studios thanks for the clarification.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
People 10 years from now will realize how terrible a subscription service like GamePass was on the gaming industry.
Kojima would pitch it to other Publishers, before he allows MS to cancel it.
this i have never heard that.
dam hogwarts was there first big game good for them.
semiconscious
Member
yep. quietly, maybe the biggest success story of this generation...
Humdinger
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It's generally considered a breach of forum etiquette to make more than one post in a row, and you made five in a row. Not a big deal - we obviously aren't Miss Manners around here - but it kind of sticks out.
Adam said "use edit," but really what you need to do is multiquote, so you don't have to make separate posts to respond one by one. See that "+Quote" button in the lower right? Click on it, and it will add all the posts you want to reply to into a "clipboard" sort of holding file. When you click Reply and a new post opens, you'll see an option to "add quotes." You can add all the quotes you want and reply to them individually, but all within the space of a single post (i.e., not needing to take 5 different posts to do it). Cheers.
(edit: Ah, I see you did it yourself in post 186. That's what I'm talking about.)
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StreetsofBeige
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Game devs have an advantage over other people in other industries.
They can grift it for years of salary before a company finally pulls the plug on their shitty game. In other kinds of jobs, youre usually thrown in and expect to perform right away. You'll get your 3 months or maybe even 6 months of easy going management. But pretty soon you got to get the ball rolling. If some marketing manger fucks up a brand and the sales and share sink after a year, or an account manager struggles and his account tanks sales, they'll be on the firing line pretty soon. Maybe already gone. In finance, youre pretty much expected to know numbers and spreadsheets right away and contribute asap.
Nobody in these departments gets 3, 4 or 5 years of time before someone finally makes a decision to go or no go.
It would never happen (except in extreme cases like embezzlement or stealing secrets kind of thing), but IMO any people doing such a shit job should be sued and pay back the company something for a waste of time.
It's really no different than if you borrow your neighbours lawn mower and fuck up and break it. You pay the guy back for messing up. Or if some people get into a car accident, the guy at fault covers it through insurance. or if you hire someone to fix something. If they fuck up, they owe you. In none of these examples does the guy get off free saying..... "oh sorry bud, thats your problem. But thanks for your money. Also, if you want me to go away, you also got to pay me again"
But somehow, people fucking up doing a bad job owes nothing. If anything they get rewarded. Not only do they get paid, but they always get paid severance to go away. So net result of doing a bad job.... you can get paid twice. How does that make sense?
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oh i did not know gaf does have a cool down timer.
oh ok thanks i will read the entire thread next time and make multi quotes if the same question pops up and no one's answered it thanks.
demigod
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It's considered spam when you triple post. GAF mods hasn't given warnings about it in a long time.
MayauMiao
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StreetsofBeige
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I barely remembered it myself until this thread. I even thought it was a fist party game. Turns it out it was made by the Just Cause dev.
It had one trailer in 2021. Thats it.
They musta had such trash in development, they hadnt said one thing about the game or even a tiny snippet since that trailer. It was so long ago, PS5 and SX just launched half a year earlier.
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Negotiator101
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what a dimwit.
xrnzaaas
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Apparently Blade entered full production after several years (!) of pitching ideas and making a prototype. I'd say it's safe, but not what happens to og Arkane once they finish it.
Besides the new Blade movie is in production hell so it's not like there's major rush to release it not long after and capitalize on its popularity.
i think we dodged a bullet.Another reason:
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