I couldn't agree more. I also can't help but feel like if the target were a different person, or rather an "important figure" from "another side" that the outcome of this would be reversed. It'd be the same unfortunate reactions, just from "different sides."
If such dev said something "transphobic" he'd be fired by the studio/publisher almost immediately for his political views, no matter how hard he claims that they are personal. Don't know why in this case it's "another" thing.
It's been a permanent everyone problem for the last 15 years, social media was never any better than today, and ppl have literally fired themselves on twitter for the things said long (without even touching politics) before anyone's ever conceived of the term 'cancel culture'.
But that argument doesn't really hold up in my opinion. Killjoy is suggesting that Kirk's assassination is as simple as cause and effect. Basically, 'he said this, so he brought this on himself'. The false equivalence is that one could be deemed as an employment consequence for violating professional normalities, while the other is the denial of someone's right to live and speak. It's shifting the blame from the killer to the victim.
Oh, for sure. You would have had bunch of leftists/socialists screaming for blood as well.
Disagree
There's always some fine print somewhere.
I absolutely see where you are coming from, but I'm looking at the bigger picture. Where they work is irrelevant. They'll do it anywhere.
It's because it's just a game that people can easily boycott it.Don't you think its a bit extreme to boycott a game because of a single devs views though?
Isn't this the same as those saying we should boycott Hogwarts due to JK Rowlings views/opinions?
I think both are as stupid as each other (not condoning either by the way, I don't need to like what either have said, but its their opinion). Your first point is the one that is the most valid, most devs just don't care about politics within large studios, those that do care about politics are in the (vocal) minority and we would like to think that they were employed due to their technical ability not due to their race, colour, gender, political leanings or personal opinions (I'm sure some of that does go on though to be clear).
I personally (mostly) separate art from artist unless the artist has done something extremely illegal, even then its personal choice (some musicians have committed murder yet their music is still listened to). I, for example, do not agree with the hypocritical views of David Draiman, but I am going to watch Disturbed in October, and can't wait to do so (I watched them live when Down with Sickness was released and this is the 25th Anniversary so seems like the perfect time to see them again but my missus has never seem them live and its one of her favourite bands, they are touring with Megadeth who, for some reason, I have never seen live so bonus for me)
Erm yea that's the beauty, discussion and debate. The exact thing Charlie was doing when he was murdered
That is complete bullshit and you know it. No game dev from a major publisher, even if they leaned right would ever publicly cheer the assassination of a prominent left wing political activist. In fact almost nobody would except maybe the most extreme right wing neo-nazi types. And therein lies the difference, the people publicly cheering now aren't extreme left wing, they're the mainstream left-wing. There's a newscaster who got fired from MSNBC for doing it, these are not extremists doing it.
I'm sorry are you AGAINST free speech?
That is for sure, until there are actual ramifications - which judging by the way the pendulum, is about to push harder back into correction like Hans Gruber taking over Nakatomi Towers
I'm talking about the group of people who get angry when their own words have consequences, yet do the same to others. They preach unrestricted free speech—but not when it comes to something they disagree with. It's funny to see the hypocrisy.
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If I couldn't separate the art from the artist there'd be very little for me to actually enjoy. Basically all rap music would be out the window unless I somehow got into Christian Rap.
Maybe what the company should do is to fire employees who publicly celebrate the murder of somebody that disagrees with them in politics but hasn't commited any crime.
I like free speech, not free gun shots.
It's a shame that only those who have already made their fortune can publicly voice their opinions.
Am I the only one never seeing this? Am I looking in the wrong places? I would actually like to see it because I want to be educated.
Except the words we are talking about in one case are political opinions and in the other case is celebrating the death of a non-violent man. I think nobody here wouldn't ask for consequences if a "freedom of speech advocate" would mock or celebrate the death of an opponent with a different view.
Because they are being hunted by an increasingly violent left wing seemingly with impunity?
Yes.
Free Speech means freedom from government persecution, not freedom from the consequences of what you say ya dunce.
Jesse Watters said Kirk's death will be avenged yesterday on fox whatever the hell that means.
Just make a list dude, I'll get a video going!
