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Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired
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sendit
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Adding to the witch hunt because X person said something Y person didn't agree with. AKA, supporting the handle.
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Omnipunctual Godot
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He's here to troll and do nothing else. Nothing but inflammatory posts in this thread, nothing but laughing emojis and bad faith responses to those who reply.
IFireflyl
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I hate people who take things out of context in order to give themselves the moral high ground. You've fulfilled your stupid quota for the year. Take a break from social media.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
He is too far gone. You cannot talk to people that indoctrinated into the left
Who says that I will not? MSNBC is a propagandist Left wing network. I would never believe anything from them.
Bondo
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I agree.Absolutely agreed. Just needs to be pointed out that it's a personal account that clearly states views are his own. His personal X account doesn't exist (at least in his mind) to help him sell or market his studio's games.
But I will say- regardless of personal or company or whatever- you essentially represent your employer. Those employers will let you go if you are drawing negative attention. So i get it, its this persons account- but thats a gamble they are taking with their income.
MidGenRefresh
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Man, this is disgusting. I wish Sony were still managed from Japan and not from the self-proclaimed "greatest country on earth", which in reality looks more like a banana republic with each passing day.
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Dr. Wilkinson
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It is indeed. Actions have consequences.
Toons
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Shes not the face of anything for anyone not spending too much time angry on Twitter. And anyone who was doing that probably had extremely polarized opinions on this game even before this
StreetsofBeige
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Yup.
To me it doesn't matter if it's "my own personal account".
The profile has a banner pic of GoY and in the profile bullets says she works at Sucker Punch. Sounds like company representation to me whether it's intended or not. And it's a public account. If it's supposed to be an off-work profile, then get rid of anything work related and it might help the situation better, or without any work linkage there's a chance her comment would totally fly under the radar and nobody would know.
It might be a bit different if it was a private FB account only meant for fam and friends, where someone backstabbed her by leaking a FB message to the net. But given what was said in the current situation, it's fair game to link person with employer.
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I collect VHS tapes
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Sony is for the woke
Well said. The best description of Charlie Kirk I heard was that he was just right of center and was the olive branch offered by the right and always ready to debate ideas. And his most extreme viewpoint was "please stop giving Israel my tax money that they use to fund their wars".
If you didn't agree with him, simply go to one of his free events and debate him. To way to kill an idea is to change people's minds about it. This uncalled for violence will simply drive people away from murderer's cause to bring moderates to Charlie's views.
Charlie was extremely dangerous to the left because it was willing to go to college campuses and engage in open debate. People's minds were changed because of this. But now we have a young child (3y) who's main memories of her father will be him being murdered in front of her, and another too young (1y) to remember him.
Toons
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That's correct. You can also tell a lot of a person by how OTHERS react when THEY die.
The best of us strive to remain cognizant of both.
MSduderino
Banned
Isn't that somewhat of a strawman?
Black_Stride
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IFireflyl
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Let's not do this. I am friends with people on the left. They're great people. Acting like the people on the extreme of either side as if they are indicative of the party as a whole is unhelpful. That's what leads to things like this tragedy.
NeoIkaruGAF
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Remember when Limited Run Games fired an employee for following right-wing people on X?
And remember when people like those discussed in this thread posted "it's not hard to be a fucking decent human being" a couple hundreds of thousands times on the internet?
You should.
I can perfectly separate the art from the artist. I was never interested in these studios' art, but I think these "artists" are horrible people.
And remember when people like those discussed in this thread posted "it's not hard to be a fucking decent human being" a couple hundreds of thousands times on the internet?
You should.
I can perfectly separate the art from the artist. I was never interested in these studios' art, but I think these "artists" are horrible people.
Banjo64
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They are highlighting that they work for these companies in their bios because they know it gives them clout amongst certain tech/gamer/youth circles so they're actively using the name of Sony/Sucker Punch to promote their extremist views.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It the publisher's don't handle them...I will be skipping many games.
Dr. Wilkinson
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It actually doesn't matter who he was. In civilized society (which is what we live in), there is no justification for political violence. You fight words with words. Change minds with your ideas. So while a lot/ most of the above you'd need to show actual context, it ultimately doesn't matter because none of it would justify assassination. Just as if no matter what you said, there'd be no justification to assassinate you or anyone else based on any "really bad stuff you've said". Words on their own cannot compel justification for harming another person. The only justification to harm another person would be self-defense or in the context of fighting in a war.
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Topher
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Typically extremists don't care to debate or exchange ideas with anyone from what I've seen. But agree, this isn't something to be celebrated regardless.
Aenima
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Im not an american but i knew some of Charlie work from youtube shorts, dude was pretty much just going on public spaces, mainly colleges and have an open mike to anyone that wished to have an open debate with him. He was the prime example of freedom of speech letting anyone with oposite views and believes debate with him.
Its really sad to see the end result. it feels the extreme leftists had turned America in a PVP lobby, and i fear the death of Charlie will only excalate this by now making the corservatives much more violent towards leftists.
Anyone on social media cheering, justifying or making jokes about a senseless death of someone that just exescised his freedom of speech and invited anyone else to do the same, ofering them time and places to express they points of views, need to be accountable. Sucker Punch cant control what they hundreds of employees do or say in social media, but they should make that ppl acountable for they actions. And if they do nothing then is because they agree with that person.
RIP Charlie.
Its really sad to see the end result. it feels the extreme leftists had turned America in a PVP lobby, and i fear the death of Charlie will only excalate this by now making the corservatives much more violent towards leftists.
Anyone on social media cheering, justifying or making jokes about a senseless death of someone that just exescised his freedom of speech and invited anyone else to do the same, ofering them time and places to express they points of views, need to be accountable. Sucker Punch cant control what they hundreds of employees do or say in social media, but they should make that ppl acountable for they actions. And if they do nothing then is because they agree with that person.
RIP Charlie.
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StreetsofBeige
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I never thought of it this way. I guess it's similar to a creepy Boy Scout Leader using his job and position to take advantage of kids who trust them not knowing any better.
I dont think Ive ever said this on any forum ever but.... JFC.
Punished Miku
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Charlie Kirk was all but an official arm of MAGA and the Whitehouse. All of MAGA is far to the right of every conservative that has ever been a republican prior to Trump, including well known liberals like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Paul Ryan, and Mitt Romney.
Are you arguing that Trump is just a tip to the right of center? Kirk is MAGA. Kirk supports every thing Trump does and then some, including totally covering up the Epstein Files. He's not even just far right, he's literally a Trump loyalist and speaks to them like an official arm of the Whitehouse.
Is there a single issue at all that he could be considered left wing on in any way?
Gambit2483
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He said some pretty messed up stuff, esp about women, children and people of color. He wasn't exactly a good role model when it came to stuff like equality, tolerance etc....so I'm not exactly sure why people are trying to prop him up as if he was a caring humanitarian of ALL peoples.
That said, no one deserves to lose their life just because you heavily disagree with their rhetoric. No one should be "celebrating" mindless violence/killing. Nor should they "have to" mourn someone they didn't see as a "good person" in life.
That said, no one deserves to lose their life just because you heavily disagree with their rhetoric. No one should be "celebrating" mindless violence/killing. Nor should they "have to" mourn someone they didn't see as a "good person" in life.
Dr.Morris79
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Arachnid
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II'll save my empathy for the Evergreen children who died terrified at at school because of this dudes views. Their horror overshadowed by the death of a dude who considers their deaths necessary.
Lmfao @ all the braindead retards ITT screaming "woke!", latching on to death and politics to re-affirm their anti-woke views in gaming as if that matters here, and then patting themselves on that back after posting "RIP thots and prayers Charlie
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Lmfao @ all the braindead retards ITT screaming "woke!", latching on to death and politics to re-affirm their anti-woke views in gaming as if that matters here, and then patting themselves on that back after posting "RIP thots and prayers Charlie
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midnightAI
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The best course of action would be to just keep quiet about it, certainly on social media.
Angry_Megalodon
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Not necessarily. Many terrorists get celebrity treatment on their funerals and that only tells me how fucked up their socities are.
In the dark days we are living today, its disingenous to pretend that a "political rival" is going to get anything other than despicable hate from the other side. The western society is in free fall, pretty much like the last remnants of the Roman Empire.
I live in a country with a young democracy that managed to heal the wounds of a civil war in the last century just to have them reopened recently by certain extreme groups whose purpose is to provoke social unrest.
viveks86
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Not personally, but have followed his debates and university campaigns quite a bit. My issue isn't usually his views (though I disagree with a lot of his rhetoric) but his debating style. It's very high on "let me take you down with my truth bombs" instead of "try to see my point of view and I see yours". I find that grating and in the end, more demagogic and evangelical than rational and open minded. Highly effective to activate university bros though.
But he was a free speech absolutist and generally allows the opponent to say their piece without drowning them out. That I will always admire. It's sickening that anyone should now have to worry about speaking in public. That's an existential crisis for a country built on those values.
LordOcidax
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When the WOKE movement can't win against a simple argument they prefer to shut you down…Thats the way of working from that group at all levels by whatever tactic.
Dr. Wilkinson
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I can't tell if this is joking. None of those individuals are liberal. Unless you're in some alternate reality where you've somehow managed to alter the definition of 'conservative' in the context of 200+ years of US politics. The Republican party is very different nowadays vs before 2016, true, but that doesn't turn the people above into "liberals". That's just patently ridiculous, quite frankly.
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Punished Miku
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That's the joke. And apparently we are in an alternate reality, because Charlie "just a tip to the right" Kirk is way past all of them.
RuneFactoryFanboy
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I have the same take when I see people trying to bring this up. It's such immature way to think and disingenuous framing of what he said.
The quote sounds like a response to someone asking him an absolutely loaded question like "Given the cost of human life in the recent shooting, do you still think the 2nd amendment is worth it?". His statement is upfront and blunt, not dodging the question despite it being loaded, despite how insensitive it may come off (especially at the time). Simply a benefits outweigh the cons stance on a harsh reality with no great answer. Trying to twist that into meaning he was unempathetic to shootings and therefore a scumbag is intellectually dishonest.
I would imagine even if we could ask him now if the cost of his own life and his family surviving without him was worth preserving the 2nd amendment, he would still answer yes.
Btw, for people saying that it was only one person from the studio that tweeted, sure. But there were many coworkers who liked the tweet. I don't want anyone telling me that it's an isolated situation. The rot is real.
It's also sickening how people saying that they won't buy the game equals cancellation. Do you even know what cancellation is? It was started by the left, and it has ruined lives. Me deciding not to buy the game does not hurt anyone, but it sends a message (however insignificant it is). I would not think about telling other people to buy GoY or not.
Some of the people in this thread are either rage baiting, trolling, or just don't know much of the world in general. There are also people twisting words of other posters. It also wouldn't hurt if people read on the definition of free speech. You have it, but there are limits to even that.
I buy a shitton of games made by leftists, which are also great games. The difference is that those devs don't openly celebrate the assassination of a civilian. If you feel like it is a good thing, you are entitled to the opinion. But to openly celebrate it is a no-no.
I just watched a video of the senate, a video of the TMZ crew cheering once they learned of his death, and compilation videos of despicable people celebrating. Him supporting the second amendment as an excuse to justify his death is also twisted. It is one thing to have arms to defend your home, it's another thing to camp yourself on top of a roof, and assassinating a person with a sniper rifle.
Some people feign tolerance, but as soon as they see wrongthink, they go ballistic.
It's also sickening how people saying that they won't buy the game equals cancellation. Do you even know what cancellation is? It was started by the left, and it has ruined lives. Me deciding not to buy the game does not hurt anyone, but it sends a message (however insignificant it is). I would not think about telling other people to buy GoY or not.
Some of the people in this thread are either rage baiting, trolling, or just don't know much of the world in general. There are also people twisting words of other posters. It also wouldn't hurt if people read on the definition of free speech. You have it, but there are limits to even that.
I buy a shitton of games made by leftists, which are also great games. The difference is that those devs don't openly celebrate the assassination of a civilian. If you feel like it is a good thing, you are entitled to the opinion. But to openly celebrate it is a no-no.
I just watched a video of the senate, a video of the TMZ crew cheering once they learned of his death, and compilation videos of despicable people celebrating. Him supporting the second amendment as an excuse to justify his death is also twisted. It is one thing to have arms to defend your home, it's another thing to camp yourself on top of a roof, and assassinating a person with a sniper rifle.
Some people feign tolerance, but as soon as they see wrongthink, they go ballistic.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Ok, good. I don't care about Kirk's politics, given what happened. May he rest in peace, and I just feel terrible for his wife, kids, friends & family. I just want to make sure you didn't think those individuals were actually liberals. Knowing you genuinely thought that would make me very sad.
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SpiceRacz
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II'll save my empathy for the Evergreen children who died terrified at at school because of this dudes views. Their horror overshadowed by the death of a dude who considers their deaths necessary.
Lmfao @ all the braindead retards ITT screaming "woke!", latching on to death and politics to re-affirm their anti-woke views in gaming as if that matters here, and then patting themselves on that back after posting "RIP thots and prayers Charlie
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When did he say those deaths were 'necessary'?
Dr.Morris79
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Dr. Wilkinson
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I can't imagine he did, especially when you consider he and his wife *have young kids*. Won't make excuses for comments made in poor judgement, but I'm guessing the context they were made in would be enlightening.
Achelexus
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Deporting all woke people to El Salvador would make America such a safer place.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
I'm just so tired of it all:
Of the man's more despicable views. Of the fact those views were part of what brought him fame. Of the awful and sadly ironic way which he died. Of the fact that he was murdered for nothing more than being very disagreeable. Of the disgusting public responses to the death of a person who was ultimately harmless and easy enough to ignore.
It's all just so ugly.
Of the man's more despicable views. Of the fact those views were part of what brought him fame. Of the awful and sadly ironic way which he died. Of the fact that he was murdered for nothing more than being very disagreeable. Of the disgusting public responses to the death of a person who was ultimately harmless and easy enough to ignore.
It's all just so ugly.
Dr. Wilkinson
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I'm with you.
