Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

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Yep, pretty sure some gamers want to know whom to give their hard earned money for and whom not.
 
Charlie Kirk was all but an official arm of MAGA and the Whitehouse. All of MAGA is far to the right of every conservative that has ever been a republican prior to Trump, including well known liberals like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Paul Ryan, and Mitt Romney.

Are you arguing that Trump is just a tip to the right of center? Kirk is MAGA. Kirk supports every thing Trump does and then some, including totally covering up the Epstein Files. He's not even just far right, he's literally a Trump loyalist and speaks to them like an official arm of the Whitehouse.

Is there a single issue at all that he could be considered left wing on in any way?

That's the joke. And apparently we are in an alternate reality, because Charlie "just a tip to the right" Kirk is way past all of them.

You need a re-calibration of your scale if Kirk was far right to you. Yes he was right of all the RINOs. But there's much, much more space further right. Just like you have traditional liberals in the Democratic party that have to deal with the far left wing communists. While the left feels anyone that doesn't toe the party line is an enemy, the right lets seems to allow free thought. And with everyone going on, many people that don't identify as either side are now choosing a side and fleeing the radical idealists.
 
That's a crude way of stating an opinion imo. My question to you is this. I'm not bringing up the hot button issue of gun control but rather asking if that sentiment holds true for other things that kill us but also that we like? Such as swimming pools or cars or airplanes or hospitals. Is it not prudent to accept some deaths from these activities if the overall good is imagined to be greater than the deaths?(not saying anything about the overall good of guns, mind) If I drowned in a pool tomorrow, I would not in my afterlife lobby for the removal of swimming pools. What I'm saying is that we do put a value on life. As a society we do. We weigh these things because every new activity has the potential to kill us. We are a frail species. We have determined some of these activities are so important that we accept some deaths from them, such as having swimming pools or vehicles or hospitals or airplanes. To imagine otherwise is simply naïve. Currently we are in the process of allowing people to be killed so we can perfect the self driving car for example.

Well those other things you mentioned are either heavily regulated and policed or have other functions in society.
Every pool has a whole host of rules to enter and participate.
Cars, airplanes and hospitals are some of the most regulated things on this planet.

I would be 100% ok if there were as many rules about guns as there were about Cars for example. That would make me feel safer if everyone needed a license, had to prove they were capable of using the device, had to renew said license yearly. Each device had to be individually insured, inspected every few years to make sure it functioned well. If you were found unfit, your device could be taken away from you, impounded, you could lose your license etc etc.
While Using the device you had to adhere to stringent rules about how you could use it, in which areas, around which people. could only be stored in certain places etc i could go on.

I would not feel safer if swimming pools, cars, airplanes or hospitals were not rigourously regulated.
 
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Also noticed they are all woke studios. It is why their games suck now.

Sucker Punch's last game was probably their best received game ever, their most successful and most as in the GOTY nominations.

.They kicked out the old experienced talent for DEI focused groups to push agendas.

This is the conspiracy theory, yes. In the real world, nobody kicks out all their best and most experienced talent.

It actually doesn't matter who he was. In civilized society (which is what we live in), there is no justification for political violence. You fight words with words. Change minds with your ideas. So while a lot/ most of the above you'd need to show actual context, it ultimately doesn't matter because none of it would justify assassination. Just as if no matter what you said, there'd be no justification to assassinate you or anyone else. Words on their own cannot compel justification for harming another person. The only justification to harm another person would be self-defense or in the context of fighting in a war.

So now is the time to walk the talk, before further bloodshed. Both sides need to dial back the rhetoric, especially those now calling for an escalation before even the shooter has been caught or their motivations examined.

But it seems precious few are willing to walk this path so…

Btw, for people saying that it was only one person from the studio that tweeted, sure. But there were many coworkers who liked the tweet. I don't want anyone telling me that it's an isolated situation. The rot is real.

Ironic that Elon Musk hid 'likes' on tweets so people could 'like' controversial tweets without fear of exposure.
Only reason we see these in the OP is because Bluesky still shows them.
 
The claim that a milquetoast college debater like Kirk was "far-right" is so funny it's not even worth addressing. If anything he was helpful in herding normies away from the far right.
 
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Sucker Punch's last game was probably their best received game ever, their most successful and most as in the GOTY nominations.



This is the conspiracy theory, yes. In the real world, nobody kicks out all their best and most experienced talent.



So now is the time to walk the talk, before further bloodshed. Both sides need to dial back the rhetoric, especially those now calling for an escalation before even the shooter has been caught or their motivations examined.

But it seems precious few are willing to walk this path so…



Ironic that Elon Musk hid 'likes' on tweets so people could 'like' controversial tweets without fear of exposure.
Only reason we see these in the OP is because Bluesky still shows them.
You are just making up facts you believe are right.

I do not Believe you. I work in corporations and know how they work.
 
You need a re-calibration of your scale if Kirk was far right to you. Yes he was right of all the RINOs. But there's much, much more space further right. Just like you have traditional liberals in the Democratic party that have to deal with the far left wing communists. While the left feels anyone that doesn't toe the party line is an enemy, the right lets seems to allow free thought. And with everyone going on, many people that don't identify as either side are now choosing a side and fleeing the radical idealists.
He even literally cheered on the Pelosi attack which literally puts him on par with the worst of the worst at REE. In no possible way is he a moderate. He's in lockstep with Trump on every single issue and past him on some. Trump is not moderate. Its an absurd mischaracterization.
 
On resetera, one of the things they were circulating was a list of bad things Charlie has said. The top one was-- "all gays should be stoned to death."

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Not a single person challenged anything on that list, just blindly accept horrible things we supposedly said.

I get there are crappy leftist and right wingers but come on. People are afraid to stand up there for anything for fear "right wing propaganda!!"
 
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The claim that a milquetoast college debator like Kirk was "far-right" is so funny it's not even worth addressing. If anything he was helpful in herding normies away from the far right.

What we have in society today is a bunch of young freakshow Marxists running around calling people fascists like it's 1930's Europe. They are an absolute joke.
 
When did he say those deaths were 'necessary'?

I can't imagine he did, especially when you consider he and his wife *have young kids*. Won't make excuses for comments made in poor judgement, but I'm guessing the context they were made in would be enlightening.
Here's the context

It's... a take, I guess? I believe in the 2nd amendment too, but I would never phrase it that way. That's classic Charlie. Polarize the fuck out of every topic.
 
He even literally cheered on the Pelosi attack which literally puts him on par with the worst of the worst at REE. In no possible way is he a moderate. He's in lockstep with Trump on every single issue and past him on some. Trump is not moderate. Its an absurd mischaracterization.
Trump voted democrat until he ran for President. He's soft on guns and very anti war. As well as very anti anything leading to people dying. He's certainly not far right.
 
Here's the context

It's... a take, I guess? I believe in the 2nd amendment too, but I would never phrase it that way. That's classic Charlie. Polarize the fuck out of every topic.

I've already seen that clip and the full video. He never said it was necessary. It sounds more to me that gun deaths are inevitable if we want to keep the 2nd amendment in America and he accepts that.
 
Sucker Punch's last game was probably their best received game ever, their most successful and most as in the GOTY nominations.



This is the conspiracy theory, yes. In the real world, nobody kicks out all their best and most experienced talent.



So now is the time to walk the talk, before further bloodshed. Both sides need to dial back the rhetoric, especially those now calling for an escalation before even the shooter has been caught or their motivations examined.

But it seems precious few are willing to walk this path so…



Ironic that Elon Musk hid 'likes' on tweets so people could 'like' controversial tweets without fear of exposure.
Only reason we see these in the OP is because Bluesky still shows them.
You are in denial
 
If I found out my employee said something like this (especially publicly whilst sporting my company's name) I'd fire them. Because I don't want them around me or other staff.
 
I've already seen that clip and the full video. He never said it was necessary. It sounds more to me that gun deaths are inevitable if we want to keep the 2nd amendment in America and he accepts that.
Oh man so all his quotes and takes weren't actually his actual quotes and takes and people are just fucking lying to justify their victory lap? SHOCKER!
 
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Maybe I've read it wrong (and maybe her choice of words is very wrong), but isn't her reaction in response to Charlie Kirk being compared to Martin Luther King? I don't agree with her wording and the tone of her post of course, but it is a bit silly to compare the two.
 
Here's the context

It's... a take, I guess? I believe in the 2nd amendment too, but I would never phrase it that way. That's classic Charlie. Polarize the fuck out of every topic.

I don't like that phrasing either, but I get what he was trying to say. Gun deaths are an unfortunate consequence of guns being legal.
 
Incite violence? No, i read as a incite to step up and take the consequences for beeing a reeetard and geting fired from your job. But no violence, where do you see that?
I've only watched some of his videos the past year. Never watched his videos before that. Cant remember any time Asmon told viewers to get at people and attack them back.
 
I will say that's its fucking repugnant to cheer someone's murder simply cause they hold different views than your own.

I can say I don't like nor agree with the guy's views but it's incredibly sad and tragic and alarming he was murdered over it.

This is the bridge way, way, way too far. Fucking cheering murder cause you disagree with someone. Go fuck yourselves.
 
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Actually sick of this world now.

Tolerant my arse....

Charlie sure said some stuff but he wasn't Hitler. 2 little girls now have to grow up without their father and to see these freaks celebrate that.

Sickens me beyond belief.
 
Insanity. Whatever.
You need to research on American history of politics then to learn what "far right" is. You can find numerous clips of Democratic members in the 70s - 00s such as Bill Clinton using the same type of rhetoric that Trump uses today, particularly on crime and illegal immigration. Trump's coalition of voters are also those who typically voted Democrat in the 70s - 00s, particularly blue collar and union workers. The Teamsters union in 2024 did not endorse a Democratic president for the first time since before 2000.

These voters have traditionally supported the Democratic party for a long time. They haven't been shifting right, the democratic has been shifting left from where they've always been- center, caring mostly about union jobs and against illegal immigrants taking said jobs.
 
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I've already seen that clip and the full video. He never said it was necessary. It sounds more to me that gun deaths are inevitable if we want to keep the 2nd amendment in America and he accepts that.
Right. he didn't say it's necessary. I just provided context as Dr. Wilkinson Dr. Wilkinson asked where that accusation is coming from. The interpretation is up to you.
 
That's what happens when you have automated systems to do the posting for you (well, one would think/hope that is what has happened here)
Or perhaps Sony will be pulling back their PR machine just on US based social media accounts? Mr Moose Mr Moose 's post above summed it up pretty well.
For some reason some people seem to expect the whole world to react to this tragic event in some form or another when in reality most people around the world probably didn't even knew the guy.
Anecdotal but me and my social circle had no idea who Charlie Kirk was until yesterday. I've seen a lot of similar comments on my social media as well.

And if any Sony social media page were to address this, I don't think it would be their Playstation UK one.
 
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Why even bring up MLK jr in 2025? No one listened to the guy. He said he wanted people to be judge by their character not their color and instead we got identity politics where all the matters is color not character.
 
I don't like that phrasing either, but I get what he was trying to say. Gun deaths are an unfortunate consequence of guns being legal.
In my opinion, that shouldn't be what he hangs his hat on. All of this is coming in context of gun control. Not getting rid of the 2nd amendment altogether. I have to get a permit to drive a car or even go fishing. But guns??? Hellllll no. Don't even think about it. After the sheer volume of deaths, you would think there would at least be a debate about it in congress. But nope. The lobby for that is so deeply entrenched that even common sense bipartisan laws are not open to discussion.
 
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Why even bring up MLK jr in 2025? No one listened to the guy. He said he wanted people to be judge by their character not their color and instead we got identity politics where all the matters is color not character.
Yeah...a lot of people that use MLK JR's teaching nowadays either choose to ignore or are too stupid to know what he was really trying to say.
 
If I found out my employee said something like this (especially publicly whilst sporting my company's name) I'd fire them. Because I don't want them around me or other staff.
Sony is content with these people because they are politically aligned. That's it.

After the failure of Concord, every single dev responsible for that mess would be unemployed. Sucking cock on the street. And yet these people find a way to fall up, going to other sony studios.

Why is that? Its not like they're talented. But its really simple when you think about it. They are on the same "team". Lets not pretend that the western part of Sony is completely unaware of these subhumans ideology. Their bluesky accounts are public. These people dont even bother with anonymity, thats how brazen they've become.

As I said previously, this isn't an isolated case. The majority are like this. I would say more than half of Sony's western devs felt elated when Kirk died, and plenty of them posted it on public accounts for the world to see.

These things are subhuman, and should be treated as such.
 
This is true and the his assassination was awful. But we have to be honest that Charlie Kirk was part of the handle at times. We can condemn his murder without whitewashing who he was. Here's a handful of some things he said:

- Gun violence was "unfortunate" but necessary to protect 2A
- Women must be raped for the survival of the species
- Children should be forced to watch public executions
- He was disappointed that Nancy Pelosi's husband survived the attack
- We cannot allow victims of mass shootings to emotionally hijack the narrative
- Trans people should be lynched
- Called for gay people to be stoned to death

Yeah the more I've looked into this guy, the more I realize he was absolutely not a saint, and invited an atmosphere in his life where an outcome like this was much more likely to occur. I'd say it was karma in a sense what's happened here: the energy you put out in the world eventually returns to you tenfold. Except in cases where karma suddenly fails (i.e all the kids who die in school shootings, considering those kids never did anything wrong or held/advocated beliefs that hurt anyone, and I personally don't believe in preordained destinies).

I don't condone what happened to Charlie Kirk and ultimately think it was senseless murder. However, just as I can understand a lot of people incredibly saddened and upset over his death, I can also understand how a lot of people are indifferent or even satisfied with what's happened. People respond to these events in different ways; the sad part is how tribalistic so many are being and very much turning this into an 'us vs. them' hyper-politicized theatrical affront.

Really, I'm more suspect over how the mainstream media's covering it. Again, at best this Kirk guy seemed very divisive with his political rhetoric. I've seen some clips and can easily see why he'd be unlikable by some, and likable by others. Personally I didn't even know of their existence until yesterday and I'm rather glad that was the case; people can infer from that whatever they want. But there are a lot of parallels here with the UnitedHealth CEO shooting earlier this year, and even tho the media made Luigi into basically a rock star, at least something good actually came out of the larger discussion: the greed of corporatized healthcare in America and how the healthcare system's been screwing over the common person for decades. People who arrived at the conclusion the CEO's murder was in part a reaction to that problem, may have been onto something.

So, are we going to see a similar, somewhat nuanced & balanced larger narrative discussion about Kirk's murder? That maybe it's a reflection, a sign that the extremist political rhetoric on both sides has gotten completely out of hand, and people need to be adults again to mend the divide and return political discourse to normalcy? Would both sides (liberals & conservatives) be responsible adults and take accountability for fueling the divide? Or is the discourse just going to get stuck on revisionists history for a victim who suddenly matters? Will any serious discourse on the state of gun violence even be addressed amid all of this this?

That's honestly the only thing I care to see play out. If the script will somehow be any different than it's been for the past few decades.
 
Or perhaps Sony will be pulling back their PR machine just on US based social media accounts? Mr Moose Mr Moose 's post above summed it up pretty well.
For some reason some people seem to expect the whole world to react to this tragic event in some form or another when in reality most people around the world probably didn't even knew the guy.
Anecdotal but me and my social circle had no idea who Charlie Kirk was until yesterday. I've seen a lot of similar comments on my social media as well.

And if any Sony social media page were to address this, I don't think it would be their Playstation UK one.
Good point, but the company as a whole really should keep quite due to the backlash that we have seen towards this dev, its naive to think only the UK would see the PlayStation UK post and only UK people would post on it. I have seen quite a few Charlie Kirk videos in the past, some things I agree with but mostly I didn't agree with a lot he had to say, but to be honest, he was mostly respectful to differing opinions to his so long as they were respectful (many weren't). No-one deserves to die though just because of a difference of opinion (if indeed that is what has gone on here, there may well be more to it than that which we wont know about until after further investigation or they catch the person who did it)
 
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