Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

Publicly cheering as assassination should be something that is shamed. That should be something everyone can get behind. Somewhere along the way these degenerates started getting away with anything. The world is a better place when there are consequences for being a vile human being.

That's nice but nobody really gives a shit about him. It's just an pretense to dispense "consequences". What you're saying should be true but cancel culture is a perversion of that. Consider: Many people using blm as permission to go apeshit on strangers, but didn't really give a shit about black people.
 
That's nice but nobody really gives a shit about him. It's just an pretense to dispense "consequences". What you're saying should be true but cancel culture is a perversion of that. Consider: Many people using blm as permission to go apeshit on strangers, but didn't really give a shit about black people.
I skimmed her Bluesky account. This wacky Sucker Punch girl has a big thing about anti-fascism. In one of her recent posts, one guy even quips something like..... What have you done about anti-facism? All you do for 10 years is post memes on Twitter and here.
 
I skimmed her Bluesky account. This wacky Sucker Punch girl has a big thing about anti-fascism. In one of her recent posts, one guy even quips something like..... What have you done about anti-facism? All you do for 10 years is post memes on Twitter and here.

Yep and all too common. People always pretended to care about shit they didn't but classically that was out of a little shame. Now the incentives are all crazy and insincere crusades become a hobby at best and religion at worst.
 
look like idiot get fired, it's the first time i wish i have BS account so i can congratulate just like how they did with the man, but nvm, not gonna go all of my way to create account on that trash network

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Online bitching about an issue isn't standing up against fascism, or Nazi, or in fact anything at all.
Try protest against some real threat irl, like communisim for example, in a communist country, then come back and tell me about it.

Everyone is strong and independent, when hiding behind the protection of the internet.
 
"Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot."
I had to take a look at this one because I thought there was no way he said this. And sure enough he didn't. Putting quotes over a sentence you (or someone you copied) created doesn't make it a real quote.

He was talking about a few prominent black women like Joy Reid that came out saying they only got their position due to affirmative action. He then says we know because these particular women don't have the brain processing to be taken seriously and that they stole a spot due to that affirmative action.

He never insulted black women as a whole. Just those that admitted affirmative action is how they got where they were.
 
This isnt cancel culture, this is people failing a public civility skill check.

Nobody would have cared what they said about Charlie Kirk a week ago, or what they say about him in a month or so from now, but these retards just couldn't wait to virtue signal and selfishly let the world know their shitty opinions about a man who everyone saw get brutally shot, in public, in front of his wife and kids.

Summed up perfectly.
 
I had to take a look at this one because I thought there was no way he said this. And sure enough he didn't. Putting quotes over a sentence you (or someone you copied) created doesn't make it a real quote.

He was talking about a few prominent black women like Joy Reid that came out saying they only got their position due to affirmative action. He then says we know because these particular women don't have the brain processing to be taken seriously and that they stole a spot due to that affirmative action.

He never insulted black women as a whole. Just those that admitted affirmative action is how they got where they were.
I never bothered trying to read up what Kirk said in these quotes people are stating. I didnt even know who he was until he got shot.

Politicians can sometimes be literal. Sometimes taken out of context by accident. Sometimes totally taken out of context on purpose.

I'm not doubting you or anything since I dont feel like validating what he said myself, but if the claim tossed around is in fact misconstrued from a Joy Reid AA example, that isn't accidental misquotes. Thats total fakery on purpose.
 
I never bothered trying to read up what Kirk said in these quotes people are stating. I didnt even know who he was until he got shot.

Politicians can sometimes be literal. Sometimes taken out of context by accident. Sometimes totally taken out of context on purpose.

I'm not doubting you or anything since I dont feel like validating what he said myself, but if the claim tossed around is in fact misconstrued from a Joy Reid AA example, that isn't accidental misquotes. Thats total fakery on purpose.
All I did was copy/pasted his quote into Google and the video popped up. It's way too easy to see the actual thing but people that post with harmful intent like him rely on others not doing a second of their own work to verify.
 
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in times like this I'm thankful 🙏🙏🙏 Nintendo developers are mostly Japanese, so they're oblivious of all drama happening in the US. They may have their own social/political drama in Japan too, but I bet it's much much less than what's going on in the US and their society isn't as divided
 
Mr. Kirks death has provided a sort of natural filter for the populace at large. We get to find out who's fucking inherently evil and all we have to do is just sit back and let them out themselves.
Their glee appears to have been too much to hold back.
 
Everyone is strong and independent, when hiding behind the protection of the internet.
Yes. The cost for behaving like an asshole on the internet is almost zero, and it immediately makes a part of human nature show that's really ugly. We can probably all confirm that right before us irl, people in general aren't talking like we see on social media, ever. The thing is a portion of these very same people are doing the nasty posting on the internet, when they can safely take off their mask. Even here on GAF you occasionally get some quite cocky posts now and then for no apparent reason by some random user. That never happens to me irl, nobody talks to me like that and I'm sure it's the same for most others here.
 
Yotei already looked like yet another lazy sequel from a Sony dev this gen, with an extra dose of woke crap. But now it went from maybe on sale to never. Insomniac, Guerrilla, Naughty Dog, they are all the same too. Sony of Japan needs to take back control of the Playstation brand. Sony's western studios prime was late ps3, early to mid ps4. They are all a lost cause now. Anybody tho thinks Intergalactic will have a good story is delusional.

Edit: I don't agree with much about what Charlie Kirk said, but those celebrating his death has been rather disturbing. Making me wonder how much of the other woke studios had less public celebrations of his death. I mean that 1 piece of shit from sucker punch getting fired was just to make sure that sales of the game don't tank, if that person just said that in the office, I'm guessing nothing would have happened.
 
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No no, try again.

"We must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty... We need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment,"

Kirk was asked what he would want his daughter to do if she were 10 years old and pregnant following rape. After calling the scenario graphic, he responds, "The answer is yes. The baby would be delivered."

"Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot."

"This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative," he said. "Engage in reality more… Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge."

"Thou shall lay with another man, shall be stoned to death. Just saying... The chapter...affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matter."
If he's a radical activist for saying these things, what about the people celebrating his death? These are the moderates?

Some people need to urgently self-evaluate.
 
Happens all the time. Whenever a big game is coming the controversy soon follows leading up to release. This being the latest.

From Spider-Man's puddle to Aloy's design, to Yotei's supposed woke and DEI narratives to this with Sucker Punch.
 
Mr. Kirks death has provided a sort of natural filter for the populace at large. We get to find out who's fucking inherently evil and all we have to do is just sit back and let them out themselves.
Their glee appears to have been too much to hold back.
Like the Hamas attack; we have the same lunatics cheering this on too.
 
Extreme views like your take are dangerous. Pointing fingers at either direction is wrong.

I hope you were this passionate when two democrat were assassinated in their homes along with their dog ~three months ago. Next to zero outrage compared to this: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/po...-with-slain-minnesota-lawmaker-and-her-spouse
I do not condone violence against anyone. I have compassion for other people and do not let political views change my morale code. Instead of always comparing why not self reflection ?
 
All I did was copy/pasted his quote into Google and the video popped up. It's way too easy to see the actual thing but people that post with harmful intent like him rely on others not doing a second of their own work to verify.
That takes too much mental effort for most people. Why would they want to listen to a 15-30 minute discussion on a topic they don't give a shit about in the first place? The headline will suffice for a knee jerk reaction.

I've listened to a few of his debates, and while I don't always agree with his opinions, he isn't remotely half the things these people say he is. He had genuine, open and thoughtful discussions with everyone, and is actually quite insightful.
 
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I wasn't planning on buying Yotei but I was going to buy Tsushima. Whatever tiny bit of revenue they would have received can now rest easy in my bank account, and my conscience can rest easier.
 
Edit: I don't agree with much about what Charlie Kirk said, but those celebrating his death has been rather disturbing. Making me wonder how much of the other woke studios had less public celebrations of his death. I mean that 1 piece of shit from sucker punch getting fired was just to make sure that sales of the game don't tank, if that person just said that in the office, I'm guessing nothing would have happened.
The thing that should really frighten you is that they probably all thought the same thing, it's just this one person was dumb enough to proudly declare it on social media

All of the Western studios are heavily infected by the woke mind virus. I don't really like buying any Western games anymore because the political ideology is so suffocating in all modern AAA titles, there's nothing fun about being lectured to by the developers about their insane violent leftist ideologies while I'm just trying to play a game

The flagship bearer for this is Dragon Age Veilguard but it's present to varying degrees in everything that comes out of Sony Worldwide Studios, including Seattle-based Sucker Punch
 
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Thanks to mods for making a separate thread.

As for the event, here's my views on stuff based on what happened and what other people's views are about the event and SP employee tweet (and other peers liking it). I'm going to do bullet points since it's easier to write and easier to read instead of paragraphs.

Event
- I watched the video clip once and wont do it again. It was sickening and I dont think I have ever seen something like that

- Unless it's something truly heinous like Hitler trying to take over the world and killing millions of people in his way; killing celebs, politicians or personalities is a huge no-no. Just because you dont like what someone says, you dont just kill the guy and cheer. You got to be the lowest brow person in the world to think that's the way the world should work. I had to google who Charlie Kirk is when it happened. It turns out he's a big political personality. Not an actual councilman, mayor or anything like that. Google check says he's had one official gov job something to do with a military academy. So whomever killed him didnt even kill a government official. He killed a personality similar to sports where a bunch of people on TV or YT commentate on the game, but never actually played the game or worked on a pro team. So Charlie Kirk pissed off someone so much, even a non-official is fair game to be killed. Crazy

Boycott or no boycott
- Well, that's up to you. You can be indifferent, boycott the game, boycott SP, boycott Sony, there's actually a wide spectrum of how much someone can boycott something

- And that's ok, because everyone has their own view on the event and purchasing support. Do what you want and respect other people's choice.

- For me, I'll be honest. I dont really give a shit about what employees say about politics regarding making me buy or not buy. Maybe if it's something really in my face and so bad it resembles a Live Leak feed, I'd boycott. But for dumb tweets I ignore them and just buy stuff based on whether I like the product itself and it's worth the price. I'm not going to dig into every company's history of ethics, dig into employee's histories about code of conduct issues or anything like that. COD is my most fav gaming series overall I put the most time in. I dont play it so much anymore as I got burnt out of it, but those 360 days I played COD probably everyday. I really dont give a shit what dumb stuff Bobby Kotick and gang did. Nor do I care what dopey things employees have said on Twitter like confidential memos or political stupidity. I just like playing COD since the first game I played which was COD 2. If anyone wants to boycott COD or Activision as a whole, or now MS overall go ahead. That's your choice and it's fine what you want to do

Who's to blame?
- It's easy to say every person is responsible for their own actions. And I believe that holistically, but it gets to a point of stupidity among many sides

- Social Media. All the various sites that aggro people's fears and emotions into volatile bombs ready to set off. The companies dont care guys. They just wants users, ad money and you coming back to engage and keep the views counts up, posts up, and then they send those metrics to anyone itching to advertise. They also do bots. My good buddy worked at a dating site in marketing and he even laughed and admitted they create a lot of fake profiles themselves to get users engaged. The main goal is money

- Traditional Media. All I know is when I'd watch news channels decades ago, it was pretty straight laced. Sure they leaned a certain way, but at least acted professional. I dont remember watching CNN Headline News back in the day had crazy liberals ranting. I never had Fox News back then so I dont know what it was like. Never watched MSNBC either. But if I had to guess, I dont get a sense 20 years ago those two channels were parodies of political sides like now

I still watch business channels like CNBC ever since the dot com days (a lot of the same people who are now 50-60+ years old!). Guess what? CNBC is pretty same-ish like 25 years ago Talk business, show stats, do Q&A with CEOs. Same shit. But CNN now is like a circus of anti-Trump. And when I tune into Fox and MSNBC it's no different. Fox is full of giggling right leaning cast laughing at the left since Trump won, and MSNBC apes CNN. You got channels now not just mudslinging political sides, but even at each other's channels by name. That person on that channel sucks and is crying, this person on that network got fired haha etc... That's your modern day newscast maturity

- Government. I'm pretty sure the farther you go back in time, politicians, rallies, on stage debates, 60 Minutes interviews were more low key and mature. Modern day is a circus of stupidity where politicians try to one up each other on insults, accusations, getting celebs like Hulk Hogan and Beyonce to promote their side (which adds Hollywood circus). It's like a AAA budget game with great production values, but cruddy content

A bunch of politicians where most skew to 60 years old or more acting like college kids mudslinging jokes or agendas hoping someone takes them up on it (like those guys who vaguely post about killing Trump). If these leaders act like children trying to create rage, then youre going to get people who follow suit. Monkey see, monkey do. And even though I like Trump's business side, his loud abrasive side is weird and gets to a point of being off putting. I can take a joke and like laughing at the whole circus, but it sure is immature when he'd go on Twitter and call out anyone he doesn't like a Loser. He's a loser, she's a loser. He did a bad job, so did she. Fire them. What kind of leadership is that? No wonder so many people act dumb following in any politician's footsteps

- People. Regardless of what stupidity there is in front of you, you still got to be your own man and try to control yourself. You dont go around doxxing, shooting people and things like that just because someone is the other side of the political spectrum. It's really got out of hand. And that links up to social media a lot since that's how a lot of it spreads. Before the net, crazies can only do so much. With the net, it becomes cross country and global

- I've always had a view that good education and jobs solves lots of issues for people's lives. It gives purpose, keeps you busy and makes you money. The more self sufficient you and your fam are with knowledge, career and money, the less you care about gov and political angles because unless something truly affects you directly (like one side can determine whether you ship out on military campaigns or sit home), a lot of political stuff wont affect you as much. But for those people close to the bottom relies heavy on hot topics. And that's where gov officials got you by the neck. So when each side acts extreme, so will many supporters because they need their side to win for survival money and services etc...

That's my rant! :)
It looks more like ChatGPT's views
 
I buy every Sony first party title outside of sports and MP only games as I am a mainline PS gamer.

I will not be purchasing Ghost Of Yotei.

I could care less about sociopolitical disagreements but celebrating the murder of other human beings is demonic behavior and I refuse to reward it. There are lots of people I disagree with in life. Some of them with every fiber of my being. I do not wish them dead or physically harmed. Open dialogues and discussions and the exchange and debate of ideas is how people learn, grow, and evolve. Silencing voices through intimidation, fear, cancellation, violence, and outright murder set us back further and further as a race every time it happens and strengthen the strain, devolving us further and further into an Us vs. Them mentality and normalizing violence as free speech.


My boycott of this game will have no noticeable effect. But it takes millions of grains of sand to form a beach. The only relevant way to make our voices heard to massive corporations is to vote with our wallets.
 
[Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

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In SP defence I think it was untenable and, with Sony already bleeding money on abandoned projects, these people need to fall in line. The social media witch hunts were started long ago and these types of people think they are immune. Money talks.

She seems like a absolute terrible person though.
 
I buy every Sony first party title outside of sports and MP only games as I am a mainline PS gamer.

I will not be purchasing Ghost Of Yotei.

I could care less about sociopolitical disagreements but celebrating the murder of other human beings is demonic behavior and I refuse to reward it. There are lots of people I disagree with in life. Some of them with every fiber of my being. I do not wish them dead or physically harmed. Open dialogues and discussions and the exchange and debate of ideas is how people learn, grow, and evolve. Silencing voices through intimidation, fear, cancellation, violence, and outright murder set us back further and further as a race every time it happens and strengthen the strain, devolving us further and further into an Us vs. Them mentality and normalizing violence as free speech.


My boycott of this game will have no noticeable effect. But it takes millions of grains of sand to form a beach. The only relevant way to make our voices heard to massive corporations is to vote with our wallets.
But they already heard the voices and fired the dev. Boycotting is still your prerogative but just saying in case you didn't notice the update
 
[Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

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In SP defence I think it was untenable and, with Sony already bleeding money on abandoned projects, these people need to fall in line. The social media witch hunts were started long ago and these types of people think they are immune. Money talks.

She seems like a absolute terrible person though.
Now imagine even 10% of such ppl are in dev teams, some of them higher ups, no wonder sony first party spinning their wheels hard this whole gen(barely few exceptions like gt7 and ragnarok that were crossgen so dunno if i should even count it, and demons souls remaster+astro which i defo count).
 
If you work for such large companies, proudly display them in your bio and then start ranting wishing death on anyone, you should be fired. No ones stopping you from having alt and venting, but that above is just unprofessional.
 
If you work for such large companies, proudly display them in your bio and then start ranting wishing death on anyone, you should be fired. No ones stopping you from having alt and venting, but that above is just unprofessional.
Amen to that! And to anyone who complains that everyone has a right to freedom of expression: That's absolutely true. However, one must also be aware that expressing that opinion can be fraught with consequences. And if you celebrate Charlie Kirk being shot for expressing his opinion, you also have to accept that you yourself can be fired from your dream job.
 
One opinion doesn't mean the whole team has the same ideology or same opinion. Sucker Punch as a whole shouldn't be ridiculed, the individual should. Lol you guys need to calm down
 
Fuck every last one of them at SuckerPunch. Won't be buying the game.
Ill still be buying and playing since theres probably ton of other amazing people working on it, sometimes you just need to seperate art from artist. Also need to play japanese dub, Fairouz Ai is doing voice of Atsu and shes amazing va.
 
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