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[RJMacready73]

Intelligence isn't measured by..."press conferences and speeches".

Oh yeah their actions are pretty fucking stupid as well

 

[Det]

Tried to warn them that cancel culture would eventually come for them.

It was literally celebrating... If I had posted a dog whistle like the fascists, nothing would have happened.

For example, I would have posted this image:

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Please strop believing everything you guys read.

This is the problem. People just circulate a list of 10 different bullet points of things they claim he said that somehow justify his murder. They'll throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, even though, the ones I've actually looked into were either taken completely out of context or flat out false. It's disgusting behavior.

 

[Toons]

Yea a lot of morons are like "live by the sword, die by the sword", like words you don't like is equal to blowing away your jugular vein in front of your family.

Every act of violence begins with words of hate.. every single one.

The two go hand in hand.

 

[Negotiator101]

Of course. That guy should be better. He has many followers and fans in general. How can spread lies like these?

Just saw what he wrote, previously only saw he deleted something. Absolute idiot to not only write something negative but also something not true about a man who's family are still coming to terms with their loss and while his killer is still at large.

 

[vodka-bull]

Nice ragebait pal. How did you conclude or observe your findings?

The list of things not working is pretty long and ranges from public transportation driving or not driving whenever they want over getting scammed on every corner to terrorist attacks, gun ownership in every household or just the general danger for women in public spaces. Add to that child labor, underage arranged marriages and clan structures in families. To top it off infrastructure sucks in almost all of these countries and hygiene ain't the best either. Last but not least it's life expectancy. So yeah, almost all arab countries are failed states in my opinion.

Forgot to mention slavery's still a thing there.

 

[Luc2010]

I don't even own a gun. I still believe having the 2nd Amendment and allow people to own guns. If my death is to a crazy person with a gun, so be it. I just don't want what happened in Germany to happen to anyone else. It all starts with the confiscating of people's weapons.

 

[Gonzito]

Mistakes happen. The Leviticus comment was widely repeated in certain circles as a desire to see Trans folks stoned. Seems to have been taken out of context.

If we're going to call people 'imbeciles' for getting something wrong, we're going to be here all day



Odd thing to say in a thread that's about tolerating differences in political opinions.

Listen buddy, I have tried to be patience with you but I have reached my limit with your constant gaslighting and your confrontational attitude. Dont talk to me anymore and don't quote me because you are going to my ignore list and I am not going to read you again. I suggest you do the same

 

[proandrad]

It was literally celebrating... If I had posted a dog whistle like the fascists, nothing would have happened.

For example, I would have posted this image:

I can't help but to feel bad for someone having potentially their life destroyed over a shit post online. But these are the people that have been doing this for years to other people for nonviolent shit post over social politics.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Every act of violence begins with words of hate.. every single one.

The two go hand in hand.

So, should the precog police arrest the hundreds of thousands celebrating this death and asking for more, Kylo Ren style?

But again, this person didn't encourage any act of terrorism on ideological rivals, so there's no room for equivalences here.

 

[Topher]

Every act of violence begins with words of hate.. every single one.

The two go hand in hand.

Violence is not an acceptable response to mere words

 

[Det]

Atrocious take, borderline moronic. And also a lie, because this person did not promote to kill a political rival.

Here, just one person talking, writing, no problem.

In this book he also doesn't say that he's going to kill anyone... He just says that he doesn't like minorities and that minorities are problematic.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Every act of violence begins with words of hate.. every single one.

The two go hand in hand.

What you call hate, I'd call common sense morality.
If you can't take words you disagree with, you are the problem.

 

[playbignbox]

Odd thing to say in a thread that's about tolerating differences in political opinions.

Saying someone is "crazy with his politics" is as "intolerant" as celebrating someone's cold-blooded death?

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

It all starts with talking about doing, then it gets done.
Yes, it is

If someone's words makes you go violent, you're the problem, not them.
It's insane this even needs to be said. Have some morality in your life.

 

[Det]

If someone's words makes you go violent, you're the problem, not them.
It's insane this even needs to be said. Have some morality in your life.

They're just words, what's the harm?

 

[Shadowstar39]

Would you guys think about buying it again if Sony fired everyone involved in those reactions (with the company name in their bios, let the private profiles be private).

I can't put a poll in a response, can't I?

I wasn't planning on buying it anyway, unless its on sale and tons of reviews both user and critic praise it , like the first game. This crazy person's rant has no bearing for me anyway. I don't like woke games and it's looking that way, if it turns out its not and its just a female lead character, and reviews are good, I will buy it down the line. People like the pyscho need to not be in games making, but I can seperate the art from the artist when 100s-1000s of people make these games. If it was lead director, ala vielguard, that is a bit different.

Now if this was an Infamous 1 and 2 remaster or Sly Cooper remaster, sorry I would be on that from day 1. But Sony doesn't seem to like its ps1-ps3 gaming heritage (outside of astrobot). Ever since Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst the company has gone down hill to me. (most of the team that made those games probably are in retirement)

 

[Ozriel]

Saying someone is "crazy with his politics" is as "intolerant" as celebrating someone's cold-blooded death?

Imagine misquoting and clearly taking my words out of context, given the subject matter.

How the heck does this relate to Kirk's murder? Stephen King isn't on record celebrating his death at all. Did you even read before posting?

 

[Toons]

So, should the precog police arrest the hundreds of thousands celebrating this death and asking for more, Kylo Ren style?

But again, this person didn't encourage any act of terrorism on ideological rivals, so there's no room for equivalences here.

When did I call for anyone to be arrested? I dont endorsd his shooting. But I ceerianly dont believe that you should be arrested for being happy someone is dead either. That's just a thought crime lol

 

[Madonis]

This is the problem. People just circulate a list of 10 different bullet points of things they claim he said that somehow justify his murder. They'll throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, even though, the ones I've actually looked into were either taken completely out of context or flat out false. It's disgusting behavior.

Nothing Charlie Kirk ever said can justify his murder.

That still doesn't mean people now have to agree with his viewpoints being okay or pretend he never said anything offensive or intolerant.

That copy and paste list going around is lacking context and a few parts are misrepresented, yet others do point to controversial statements he had publicly made.

 

[Trilobit]

What's messed up is that Sucker Punch is a Playstation Studio so this also reflects on them, and still not even a word fron SP.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

They're just words, what's the harm?

Pretty sure someone like you has no idea of it's contents, let alone read it even once in his life.

 

[Toons]

What you call hate, I'd call common sense morality.
If you can't take words you disagree with, you are the problem.

It doesn't even just end there tho does it.

Like if you and I disagree on abortion(we probably don't despite what you may believe). If you believe that a portion of this country is killing babies then are those jsut words or does that escalate to violence?

If someone decided that was a cause worth actually figuring for; would that person be escalating to violence or simply responding to already present violence?

 

[squidilix]

[Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

Good Sony.

 

[Boneless]

LEAVE KING ALONE.

But really, yes he said something stupid but he took it back and apologised. He did not as far as I can see celebrate this death in any way shape or form.

 

[Shadowstar39]

You brits lost your ways a decade ago. You don't need to go to extremes like USA nor the extreme of current day UK where you can get detained for saying bad words. There is a middle ground where the rest of the developed world and even part of the development world is.

But as a Spaniard an therefore a historically sworn enemy of anything English I'm delighted that you lost your ways. Please continue.

Wait, i thought the French were the Brit's sworn historical enemy not Spain? Wasn't England and Spain just competitors to the Americas Colonial expeditions, not actually at war (my European history is rusty indeed, and I haven't played medieval 2 or eu4 in ages .

 

[Topher]

Here, just one person talking, writing, no problem.

In this book he also doesn't say that he's going to kill anyone... He just says that he doesn't like minorities and that minorities are problematic.

And? If all Hitler ever did was write a book then the world would be a better place all around. How does this translate into something relevant in this thread and this event?

 

[playbignbox]

Imagine misquoting and clearly taking my words out of context, given the subject matter.

How the heck does this relate to Kirk's murder? Stephen King isn't on record celebrating his death at all. Did you even read before posting?

The thread is about a developer celebrating Kirk's death, the same thread where you say that saying someone is "crazy with his politics" is an "odd thing to say." It seems you haven't gotten the point yet and don't know what the word tolerance means.

 

[Gamer79]

I can't help but to feel bad for someone having potentially their life destroyed over a shit post online. But these are the people that have been doing this for years to other people for nonviolent shit post over social politics.

Its not just about the post. If their that extreme there is no doubt they arw indoctrinated and will affect their work. Many have much more than just one post.

 

[Gamer79]

I will not be buying this game or any other Sucker Punch product. Their silence is deafening.

 

[KimDongHwan]

They're just words, what's the harm?

I don't know you so I may be wrong, but why do you write like this? looks very much the same as the people that get posted from Bluesky over here, the overuse of emojis. Could it be that you also have the same tags on your profile?
"They/Them | Intersectional feminist | Anti-racist | Free Palestine | Climate justice now | Decolonize everything | ACAB | ally | #BLM | Vegan | DMs open for mutuals only | #CeasefireNow:

 

[Hero_Select]

So, you don't really understand what he meant? Is your IQ really that low.
He doesn't want people to die. But he wanted to prevent his and the peoples freedom.

But sure, take away peoples guns. Then they would just stab each other like in Europe.
The cartels and the gangs will of course still have weapons. But now you cannot defend yourself against them as your right.
Btw I am not an american. I live in a country where weapons are banned and always has been. Driving around with a knife longer than 5 cm is considered a murder weapon with a purpose of killing someone.

The problem with guns is that is is such a big part of american culture.
Not much would change. Citizens would having a harder time getting access to firearms. Theres millions and millions of guns in the US, many of them would get hidden at the black market, also the cartel issue is so serious in USA, that guns would be imported as much as drugs from Mexico.


That is also a personal thing I did not support. I do realise that it is because he was a full blooded christian, which I am not at all. I'm not religious. But I understand why he wanted it.

I have a daughter myself, but I wouldn't want it.

By the way...
I know americans like to chop kids foreskin... Are you pro or against that?
I find it pretty evil to cut in poor kids foreskin without having anything to say against it.
That is pretty evil to me.



I have known about this guy the last six months. I am not a native american, I someday just got his videos where he talks on campusses.

I still don't believe that is an opinion worth being killed over.

A vast majority of black people are racists, klinging to "y'all made me slaves", even though the person has never experienced anything slave behavior except their own way of thinking. They are imprisoning themselves.

But all this is imo another story, so I'll drop it here. Unless you of course want to continue, but I don't think this is the right thread to do so.

I ain't defending the man or all his values.

These quotations are from him being hardcore christian.

Then put it that way, for non christian people, he can be considered a loony because of these absurd opinions.

But if you think someone should be killed from these quotations, then this tells more about you than him.

"He's just Christian" sure is a great way to sum up everything wrong with religion lmao.

And again, for the billionth time because some of you apparently need it spelled out.

He. Did. Not. Deserve. To. Die. Killing. People. Is. Bad.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Nothing Charlie Kirk ever said can justify his murder.

That still doesn't mean people now have to agree with his viewpoints being okay or pretend he never said anything offensive or intolerant.

That copy and paste list going around is lacking context and a few parts are misrepresented, yet others do point to controversial statements he had publicly made.

I'm glad that's the opinion you have. As evidenced by this thread, many others don't share it.

 

[Outlier]

They are free to express their stupid opinions and we are free to choose how we spend our money.

I hope they enjoy the results.

 

[saintjules]

LEAVE KING ALONE.

But really, yes he said something stupid but he took it back and apologised. He did not as far as I can see celebrate this death in any way shape or form.

 

[Ozriel]

The thread is about a developer celebrating Kirk's death, the same thread where you say that saying someone is "crazy with his politics" is an "odd thing to say." It seems you haven't gotten the point yet and don't know what the word tolerance means.

We were specifically talking about Stephen King. He's a liberal democrat who has had different opinions from conservatives, but we have spoken multiple times here that there is nothing inherently bad about holding a different political position from someone else.

Pitching someone as 'crazy' because they're on a different wavelength politically is going down the path that led us here. Hope this helps.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Here, just one person talking, writing, no problem.

In this book he also doesn't say that he's going to kill anyone... He just says that he doesn't like minorities and that minorities are problematic.

Should we murder everyone that buys that book? Did we murder him over words or actions? Wise up!

 

[Toons]

Pretty sure someone like you has no idea of it's contents, let alone read it even once in his life.

You dont want to buy a game from a developer that hires a single person who made a cruel joke but someone not having read mein Kampf is a knock against them?

 

[vpance]

What's messed up is that Sucker Punch is a Playstation Studio so this also reflects on them, and still not even a word fron SP.

Pretty clear they have no intention of making any statement.

It's fine though, we already know how deep the rot runs at the studio. 1 firing and 1 apology means nothing.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Here, just one person talking, writing, no problem.

In this book he also doesn't say that he's going to kill anyone... He just says that he doesn't like minorities and that minorities are problematic.

i ll tell you this, he would be really proud on how the left has been dealing with ppl that they don't agree with.

 

[vodka-bull]

Should we murder everyone that buys that book? Did we murder him over words or actions? Wise up!

That would start a real genocide in Gaza.

 

[jason10mm]

And? If all Hitler ever did was write a book then the world would be a better place all around. How does this translate into something relevant in this thread and this event?

Very much this. It's not like Hitler wrote that book and someone ELSE took it as gospel and then went on to start the Third Reich. Hilter himself did it, so the book is really just him advertizing HIMSELF. So unless Charlie Kirk started running for political office the analogy is seriously flawed.

It would be like jailing Stephen King for a writing a graphic child gang-bang scene. Until he actually orchestrates one IRL, the writings are just a matter of taste.

 

[ReBurn]

Welp. Now what, GAF? Do the game graphics look better?

The optics certainly do

 

[kevboard]

this event made me cement the following belief:

90% of humanity should be categorised as mentally retarded.

 

[Gonzito]

Pretty clear they have no intention of making any statement.

It's fine though, we already know how deep the rot runs at the studio. 1 firing and 1 apology means nothing.

This is my main concern. If they dont make any statement apologizing I am not gonna buy anything from this studio ever again, to be honest, I probably wont support Sony either

 

[Gonzito]

this event made me cement the following belief:

90% of humanity should be categorised as mentally retarded.

Let me guess, you are in the group of 10% of the smart ones right? lol

 

[jason10mm]

Those against killing unborn babies are also against killing in general.
I haven't heard of any story where an anti-abortion person did anything other than words and protest against those people.
Yet some abortion people gloat about their baby body count.

Oh, that's just not true. There have DEFINITELY been acts of violence and murder by pro-lifers against abortionists purely due to the abortion issue.

Lately I feel the violence aspect has abated on this issue, primarily because in areas where the pro-lifers tend to live, the legislative path has proven to be more successful. I don't think a georgia or alabama pro-lifer drives out to California to bomb a clinic, for example.

This is why state laws are so important, it allows citizens of this massive and broad nation to develop pockets that more closely respect their beliefs while still permitting folks to move about freely.

 

[kevboard]

Let me guess, you are in the group of 10% of the smart ones right? lol

you guessed it. the 10% that isn't easily emotionally captured. the 10% that doesn't instantly go monkey mode against the "opposite tribe". the 10% that isn't worshipping nonexistent idols.

it's like watching toddlers on the playground in here and generally online.

 

[TheChadOfGaming]

them not making a statement is odd since it will take 10 seconds to make a tweet. "Hey guys murder is bad we don't support it and fired the employees who did."

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]