Generally $50 on the high end. There were many released at $40, and you had the budget greatest hits for $20. This continued in the PS2 era. Being able to have games created at any number of disk pressing factories around the world for about $1 for the disk and packaging changed the game versus the expensive carts.
Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement
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Do you personally know any Mormon kids? They can go really hardcore in their rebelling against their upbringing.
And thinking Utah colleges are free from the propaganda in other places is completely wrong. Look at the demographics of the cities where colleges are in any of the deepest of red states. You'll be surprised.
LiquidMetal14
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I find it really ironic and hilarious that the side that tells you one side is a threat to democracy and is all about this is the one that's been doing all the things they are accusing the current regime of doing. But heaven forbid they want to investigate the corruption and why they were using places like the FBI to go after political adversaries.
And this kind of stuff is the main reason that I agree with some of these cancellations. You have people that are influencing culture or the kids in schools. That's a different kind of cancel culture than what was happening before and if it was just a regular worker at McDonald's or somewhere else I would not care as much.
It's not okay to allow radicalized behavior like that just like the main reason we are even talking about this stuff with the guy that was shot in the neck for everybody to see him bleed out. That is the real egregious thing and gives people like me all the ammunition I need to call out the bullshit because it has been the left proportionately that has been about all of this violence. I'm sure there's some stuff going on out there but you're not seeing the same kind of protest or burning of cities because of this unlike something like when George Floyd happened. That's when you lose people like me and why this is myself from the Democratic party.
It's such a double standard and the left is just a lucky that they have most of the mainstream media to run damage control for them because things are covered a lot different and a lot of people are legitimately swayed or as some would say, brainwashed.
And this kind of stuff is the main reason that I agree with some of these cancellations. You have people that are influencing culture or the kids in schools. That's a different kind of cancel culture than what was happening before and if it was just a regular worker at McDonald's or somewhere else I would not care as much.
It's not okay to allow radicalized behavior like that just like the main reason we are even talking about this stuff with the guy that was shot in the neck for everybody to see him bleed out. That is the real egregious thing and gives people like me all the ammunition I need to call out the bullshit because it has been the left proportionately that has been about all of this violence. I'm sure there's some stuff going on out there but you're not seeing the same kind of protest or burning of cities because of this unlike something like when George Floyd happened. That's when you lose people like me and why this is myself from the Democratic party.
It's such a double standard and the left is just a lucky that they have most of the mainstream media to run damage control for them because things are covered a lot different and a lot of people are legitimately swayed or as some would say, brainwashed.
Embearded
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WellSheet
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You don't think an equally obvious observation would be he'd radicalize to polar opposite of his family's conservative beliefs?
"Bella Ciao" (sp) on the round is an anti-fascist lyric sang AGAINST right wing authoritarianism
If he was radicalized to the FAR right that would Indicate he'd be lining up with THAT ideology, not referencing an anthem sang against it.
Also, I don't recall the exact phrases, but one of his rounds had trans/furry coded language, no? Does that strike you as FAR RIGHT?
You are left leaning so I'm sure you'd like this to not fall on "your party" - but I'd argue the smart money is definitely not pointing at far right radicalization.
We shall see and time will tell. Regardless, it's disgusting.
Fake
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I do care when someone is having a conversation about their battle with cancer or something. Its not cool.
Omnipunctual Godot
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He was radicalized by the far right? What are you even talking about? Have you looked into this story at all?
CLW
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I'm reminded of a "great" leader (Obama) that once said:
"If they bring a knife to the fight, We (the left) bring a gun."
The right has abandoned several of its prior principles in this Trump era like people can say whatever they want without life ramifications stance because they were tired of being "canceled".
You cannot "cancel" people then complain when your opponent "cancels" you.
Those celebrating on the left need to think HARD about how they are going to feel when/if someone on the right blows the face off one of their pundits/leaders.
Because if it does not stop the right will come out with their guns and they have more guns training skill etc on how to use those weapons
Embearded
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He was radicalized so hard on the right he overflowed and ended up on the left....
The Utah governor is saying he was radicalized by leftist ideology. But keep believing it was the far right.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...th-leftist-ideology-utah-gov-says/ar-AA1MtRxd
Omnipunctual Godot
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Explain how he was radicalized on the right and the evidence that led you to that conclusion.
WellSheet
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That's some PAC-MAN shit
ChorizoPicozo
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they lost people who live in the actual real world and outside United States.
Embearded
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Isn't it obvious? Porn and video games. These are capitalistic products.
/s (just to make it clear...)
This one gets it.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Shinzo Abe, the Japanese Prime Minister, was publicly assassinated as well. Unfortunately, the wounds of political violence are still fresh in their memories.
Cllown shoes take.
good. Let these studios burn (metaphorically of course). I hate all manner of politics in games. More companies need social media policies.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Okay, that's honestly a relief. Because there are actual people saying things like this, it's pretty tough to spot sarcasm right now.
I'm serving a one month ban from Famiboards (which will most likely become a permaban) because in the Kirk thread there's people there were grave dancing and I said as a life long blue voter I don't think it's right to celebrate his death and that we shouldn't turn into the lefts equivalent of MAGA over this. They banned me for one month for making a "false equivalency".
My post was reasonable and speaking out against the cheering and celebrating. All the posts laughing at his death were untouched. I was banned.
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So his strong republican upbringing and his family's obsession with guns had nothing to do with anything?
Moriarty1889
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Yes the gaming industry indeed has been infiltrated with sadistic weirdos and it is showing more than ever.
The question is will these companies purge these lunatics or do they share the same sick mindsets? We shall see. Sucker Punch needs to fire that vile individual and make a public statement before it's too late. If they don't do either then they are of the same twisted mindset and will never see another dollar from me as well as hoping GOY dies a quick death.
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kevboard
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TGO
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I'm not versed in everything Charlie Kirk has said
But I've seen a few videos and more often then not he's conversions start with the students list of things they've heard off the internet and Charlie says "no I think this, So we have have a understanding"
Which they do.
And there probably one or two things they have an agreement on.
Obviously there's stuff that young liberals aren't going to agree with Charlie on, like Pro Life & Free Palestine etc, but that how it unfolds.
The only time there's a complete disagreement is obvious the moment the student opens their mouths because they wasn't there to debate, they was there to give Charlie a piece of their mind and got embarrassed in the process because they wasn't prepared.
Something they should be if the school was doing their job regardless of the context.
You debate a lot at university and their inability to do so is shocking.
Anyone's opinion can be controversial,
And as there's a lot of topics Charlie spoke on, let's pick one
"Kids with fathers will likely have a better upbringing"
Here's a quote from Denzel Washington
"If the father is not in the home, the boy will find a father in the streets. I saw it in my generation and every generation before me and every one since. If the streets raise you, then the judge becomes your mother and prison becomes your home."
is that still controversial coming from him?
Abortion.
I generally disagree that it should be banned but I understand Pro Lifers point of view.
To me the way it's always been is fine, but in today's society Abortion is being abused.
To advocate a stop to that is not controversial, but I understand on both sides for their reasons for and against.
I don't think Haley who was raped should be denied it at the clinic just because Jenna has been in 7 times this year as birth control method.
Either way, the guy just talked and debated and and most importantly let them speak, whether they could or couldn't change his mind doesn't matter because there were students just as stubborn as him, but it didn't matter.
What matter is they had the conversation.
And that's not something someone should murdered for.
IMO, no. If he took those views and teachings to heart he never would have did what he did.
Embearded
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I know...
I am in a sarcastic mood exactly because i read too much bullshit on X before i opened Gaf.
WellSheet
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You have to do some mental gymnastics to not acknowledge that he likely radicalized AGAINST his strong conservative upbringing - meaning he went to the other end of the spectrum; IE the left
We shall see how it all plays out in the end - but you do your side no favors trying to twist your self into an Auntie Anne's pretzel with dumb ass takes like this.
Oh - and all the data about what was engraved on his bullets, testimonies from his classmates on his behavior…all pointing to LEFTIST radicalism.
But sure, you're probably right
UltimaKilo
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Closing down Reddit is crazy, no.
I may have over-looked the Reddit part. Definitely not for that. Instead, someone should make a competitor.
Of course. That's how it always is, right?
Because there have been no shootings in this country done by straight, white, republican males.
ChorizoPicozo
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the clips of this dude hasan... bruh
Mr Moose
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Hmm.
Angry_Megalodon
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BlueManifest
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More evidence needed but the first thought is always what people think would be the most obvious, do we know when we are getting official details from the fbi? They have had him for awhile now
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Hey - shoutout to EvilLore and the mod team for letting this thread stay open. As someone who works in the industry, it's a little alarming and - more than anything - disappointing to see some of the unfiltered takes that are popping up from so many Western AAA devs. I appreciate that there's some rationality here.
StreetsofBeige
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Interesting. Never seen that theory before. But by the sounds of it, it seems correct.
Omnipunctual Godot
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They're desperate with this narrative. They know it makes no sense. They're just hoping it will go away.
WellSheet
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Agreed….
And what's the logical conclusion of him being radicalized far to the right? What's the political, social and ideological justifications we could hypothesize for why he'd go and kill a prominent and powerhouse young CONSERVATIVE firebrand? Ideologically he'd be drawn to killing someone on the other end of the political spectrum.
So this idea doesn't hold up.
Crayon
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Yes. Look at the profiles of these shooters. This one is -shocker- another young guy who's online all day. The fact that they don't need any political alignment at all to lose their shit and kill should say all we need to know.
If I was president I would have a national emergency program to get these shooters laid. Legalize prostitution and give tax breaks for pity fucks.
As far as I can tell, social media is on the way to becoming the actual worst thing ever. There is a crisis with young people all around. When the young men break they tend to be the ones who reach for the gun, but young women are being screwed up too.
I didn't twist anything. Just pointed out some facts.
StreetsofBeige
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The thing about all the crazies now is unfortunately social media has given them free access for people to band together, do dumb shit and support each other. And everyone knows the way giant social medias work is that moderation is rare due to sheer numbers of posts and possibly biased mods too who love it. Cracking down on heinous stuff also goes against their business plan of more users. So they cant crack down on it too much. So most dumb shit goes on unfiltered. Thats why pissed off people resort to cancel culture hoping the worst of the worst get nailed because they lead the charge as the mods dont.
But it's not even all social media. And it was never always like this.
I dont get a sense crazy people do this stuff on FB so much as their real life profiles are skewed to friends and fam. Similarly, Linkedin doesnt have wacky stuff either as even the nutjobs know you got to keep a tidy Linkedin profile professional and dont do dumb messages or else your work circle and recruiters will never want to work with you or hire you. Compare the SP girl's Bluesky account (esp pre-scrubbed) vs her Linkedin profile. It's two different people.
But, it's that mainstream free for all kind of sites like Twitter/X, Bluesky, Instagram etc.... where half the people make anonymous profiles, they have strength in numbers to say heinous stuff and also get virtual pats on the bat from other creeps for saying it. These kinds of sites are the ones people use to get attention and stardom hoping for as many eyeballs, followers and retweets to grow their popularity. A guy on Linkedin working an admin job hoping to get promoted one day isnt going to do the same volatile messages for his 500+ connections to see. But on his Twitter/Bluesky profile he might.
Also, when all these sites got up and running 15-20 years ago, they always start out chill. But as more people jump on, it gets more radical. Some sites more than others. But the sites never get more calm. They stay the same chill way (Linkedin) or only get more crazy (Twitter/Bluesky).
But it's not even all social media. And it was never always like this.
I dont get a sense crazy people do this stuff on FB so much as their real life profiles are skewed to friends and fam. Similarly, Linkedin doesnt have wacky stuff either as even the nutjobs know you got to keep a tidy Linkedin profile professional and dont do dumb messages or else your work circle and recruiters will never want to work with you or hire you. Compare the SP girl's Bluesky account (esp pre-scrubbed) vs her Linkedin profile. It's two different people.
But, it's that mainstream free for all kind of sites like Twitter/X, Bluesky, Instagram etc.... where half the people make anonymous profiles, they have strength in numbers to say heinous stuff and also get virtual pats on the bat from other creeps for saying it. These kinds of sites are the ones people use to get attention and stardom hoping for as many eyeballs, followers and retweets to grow their popularity. A guy on Linkedin working an admin job hoping to get promoted one day isnt going to do the same volatile messages for his 500+ connections to see. But on his Twitter/Bluesky profile he might.
Also, when all these sites got up and running 15-20 years ago, they always start out chill. But as more people jump on, it gets more radical. Some sites more than others. But the sites never get more calm. They stay the same chill way (Linkedin) or only get more crazy (Twitter/Bluesky).
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We're willing to oversee it for now to help keep a civil dialogue open, due to the importance of this week's events. Extra thanks to the mod team.
CLW
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You can make a STONG case FB X YT etc have caused as much or more damage than Big Tobacco ever did
A2una1
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Radicality is never good. It doesn't matter if it's left, right, religious or something else...
Kacho
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That goes without saying. The gaming industry, especially in California, has a problem with the radical left.
WellSheet
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You posted heavily slanted opinions.
I've heard he had discussions with his family about how they all thought Charlie Kirk was hateful/spreading hate - unless this has been debunked?
And where is the factual data that his family was obsessed with guns? Owning a gun, his family being police doesn't just equate they had a bunker of guns. - again where is the data confirmed that what you said is true and not just radical hyperbole to make your claim seem legitimate?