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[ecosse_011172]

Once you start hiring on DEI metrics there is no way back and you can only hire with these metrics going forward. Sonner or later the real talent has been pushed out and only the clowns remain.

These studios are beyond saving. Anyone who expects this to change anytime soon is delusional.

Yep, the only people near a writing room should be big, white alpha males, with big sweaty muscles, none of that gay shit.

 

[Germuso]

You damn boomer!

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Just that society changes, tastes change and old men get left behind, clinging to the "good old days" before <whatever > changed.

Yeah, tastes change. People are getting sick of the snarky, quippy Marvel-style writing. Look how much mockery the Concord reveal trailer got. Same for Veilguard. Both bombed. Go look at all the Marvel/Disney/Lucasfilm mega bombs over the last few years. Look at Forspoken, Saints Row reboot, Suicide Squad, etc.

Maybe you're the "boomer" here. You're white knighting for a trend that peaked 5+ years ago, kept on life support by talentless activists + clueless corporate execs who drank the DEI Kool Aid.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Yep, the only people near a writing room should be big, white alpha males, with big sweaty muscles, none of that gay shit.

I don't care what they look. I care about them being indoctrinated puppets that shove their message into every little dialogue.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Yeah, tastes change. People are getting sick of the snarky, quippy Marvel-style writing. Look how much mockery the Concord reveal trailer got. Same for Veilguard. Both bombed. Go look at all the Marvel/Disney/Lucasfilm mega bombs over the last few years. Look at Forspoken, Saints Row reboot, Suicide Squad, etc.

Maybe you're the "boomer" here. You're white knighting for a trend that peaked 5+ years ago, kept on life support by talentless activists + clueless corporate execs who drank the DEI Kool Aid.

I'm not white knighting anything, game looks nothing amazing, just getting a chuckle at internet bubbles.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I'm not white knighting anything, game looks nothing amazing, just getting a chuckle at internet bubbles.

 

[Lokaum D+]

i miss old Mass Effect

 

[Kacho]

none of that gay shit.

Ideally, yes. But studios like BioWare put out gay shit to satisfy their own ego, then it flops, then the studio gets gutted and we likely won't get anything else.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Ideally, yes. But studios like BioWare put out gay shit to satisfy their own ego, then it flops, then the studio gets gutted and we likely won't get anything else.

 

[adamsapple]

That looked fine, GAF being GAF again.

 

[Kacho]

No, I understand you're massively butt hurt. But it would unironically be a massive upgrade if red-blooded alpha bros were in the writing room and not the millennial hacks we have now.

 

[Insanemaelstrom]

As a millennial/gen z guy, yeah, I don't like such writing. It feels like old people trying to appeal to kids. It's cringeworthy, imo

 

[ecosse_011172]

No, I understand you're massively butt hurt. But it would unironically be a massive upgrade if red-blooded alpha bros were in the writing room and not the millennial hacks we have now.

Sure, could have endless dialogue about going to the gym and getting ripped.
"I can bench press 278926lbs"
" Woah, dude"
Sounds great.

 

[Kacho]

Sure, could have endless dialogue about going to the gym and getting ripped.
"I can bench press 278926lbs"
" Woah, dude"
Sounds great.

Hyperbole doesn't make for a good argument when we're in a thread highlighting legitimately bad writing dripping with "gay shit."

 

[Germuso]

Stanley noob!

 

[bighugeguns]

Just that society changes, tastes change and old men get left behind, clinging to the "good old days" before <whatever > changed.

This culture warrior shit isn't cool anymore either. Damn, what now?

Real question, btw, you seem to think about this stuff a lot, so tell me, what's the path forward?

 

[Critical Hit]

Yep, the only people near a writing room should be big, white alpha males, with big sweaty muscles, none of that gay shit.

Not at all. The writer for "Clair Obscure" is an Asian girl with natural hair color.

 

[Sethbacca]

I don't know. Starfield at least resembles a space RPG, but this is some kind of techno-fantasy.

It's literally just an attempt at Fallout in space. I liked the first game well enough, this one doesn't look great tho.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Real question, btw, you seem to think about this stuff a lot, so tell me, what's the path forward?

I don't really, I just laugh at the culture war blindness, it's quite comical.
Real answer, the path forward is to chill the fuck out and not see <whatever the enemy in your culture war is> in everything and then go on and on and on about it.

Back to the game, I wish they'd add a V.A.T.S mode, I'd be all over it like a rash if they did.

 

[bighugeguns]

I don't really, I just laugh at the culture war blindness, it's quite comical.
Real answer, the path forward is to chill the fuck out and not see <whatever the enemy in your culture war is> in everything and then go on and on and on about it.

Back to the game, I wish they'd add a V.A.T.S mode, I'd be all over it like a rash if they did.

I think you misinterpret humour as an attack. People laugh at retarded shit all the time, it's normal. The devs should get better focus groups sounds like.

You just make everything funnier because unfunny people getting mad about it is genuinely hilarious, that's probably why it feels endless to you, you create the loop.

Also, I don't think you can slut shame people into liking things, you'll just end up with embarrassing products. That's reddit logic and has been proven to be incredibly destructive.

If people "chill out" that just means more of the same mid shit, nobody wants that, rather make noise and hopefully get something better next time.

 

[The_hunter]

Ugh, that fov is so narrow

 

[Toots]

Quality is timless, thats why people still remember fallout new vegas, not the mediocre writting of the current obsidiant.

For you 50 shades of grey must be better than foundation from isaac asimov.

Watch snow white you smart teen guy

Larisn, cd peoject and other have good writters

Don't bother aguing, he is a contrarian who gets off of contradicting people...
Im trying my best to educate him but seriously

The game is ugly but we already knew about that from the previous gameplay previews.
It is also badly written but anyone who has played a bioware game these 10 last years already knew about that as well.

Anynoe should be able to understand it is somewhat bothering for people who knew old bioware that this studio is still called bioware, the same way if some company took the coca cola name, changed the recipe so it taste like feces, and kept selling it while still being adamant that it is coca cola and should still be called as such could be bothering for people enjoying coca cola.

Why not simply make your own product under a new brand name and try to make a name for yourself through your work and achievment ?
Because it is hard and much simpler to be a hack who wants to reap the benefits of a brand or ip without being smart enough to create one.

 

[nemiroff]

Well, I wouldn't mind me some Amazonian pussy, so the strong female type characters don't bother me much, I don't follow the story much in these games anyway.

That said, I couldn't stand the first game.... But this one, on the other hand, looks far more streamlined, gunplay improved, thus something I maybe would like to play.

Also, the excessive loading between houses and areas seems to have been improved (?).

TLDR; If the game is fun, I'm in

 

[The_hunter]

Back in the days(10-15years ago) all higher ups were sane so they didnt even hire or at least didnt put any woke clowns in decision making positions, but guess what, more women/woke weirdos are now at those AAA western dev studios, they arent even parasites taking money for doing 0 work, all their work literally makes games worse.
And about art direction- unmodded witcher2 from 2011 maxed out on pc looks more pleasant to the eyes than this brand new supposedly AAA game. At least women there look feminine and most men look manly/muscular


Edit: Probably not many ppl in the west know it since most of yall never pirate but look what smart piracy countermeasure was implemented in said witcher 2

The drm reminds me of Alan wake, if you pirated the game, you had to play with a pirate hat.

 

[jzbadblood]

I was tired of the first game after the opening area. Most fun I had was restarting on the easy difficulty and killing everyone in the word breaking all the quests. I hope you can still do that in this one otherwise it's worthless.

 

[Fake]

 

[Minari]

Game looks so ugly and simply uninspiring.
Obsidian producing actual gamepass slop nowadays with those 2y development time games they shit out every now and then.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

I'm not white knighting anything, game looks nothing amazing, just getting a chuckle at internet bubbles.

You can't help yourself, haven't you just come off two bans?

What bubble, people are laughing at shit writing in a sequel to a shit game. it's a sad fall for one of the last decent RPG houses in North America.

 

[Senua]

Game looks so ugly and simply uninspiring.
Obsidian producing actual gamepass slop nowadays with those 2y development time games they shit out every now and then.