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[Ovek]

Electronic waste? The computers will still work without support. There are Windows XP and Windows 7 PCs still out there and they work like they always have.

Regardless, the requirements for Win 11 can be bypassed. Just a google search away.

All business large and small will be and will have been dumping laptops and desktops on mass due to Win10 EOL. Doesn't matter if they work or not. The company I work for has replaced going on a couple of thousand perfectly good computers because of Win11.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Are they stopping all updates or just non-security updates? If they are still rolling out security updates that is all I need.

 

[Topher]

All business large and small will be and will have been dumping laptops and desktops on mass due to Win10 EOL. Doesn't matter if they work or not. The company I work for has replaced going on a couple of thousand perfectly good computers because of Win11.

Most businesses replace computers on a regular schedule. Regardless, I see no reason why any of the computers replaced should end up in a landfill.

 

[Trunx81]

Why did to pick a mobile OS rather than a PC one such as MacOS (previously known as OSX)?

Because the difference between a modern mobile os and a desktop os nowadays isn't that huge anymore. As is the hardware.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I've had no problems with Win 11 (and some of the changes don't affect me) but it does feel like a crapshoot. I mostly use laptops which is why I think it's fine for me (heavily tested set of hardware.)

 

[falconhoof]

Are they stopping all updates or just non-security updates? If they are still rolling out security updates that is all I need.

They are stopping security updates unless you sign up for the extended support.
There's a few ways to do it and it might depend on where you are in the world.

 

[Fake]

It's not. They offer extended support. Just upgrade to 11 it's better.

Subjective.

 

[Syphon Filter]

All business large and small will be and will have been dumping laptops and desktops on mass due to Win10 EOL. Doesn't matter if they work or not. The company I work for has replaced going on a couple of thousand perfectly good computers because of Win11.

i doubt anyone is dumb enough to throw a computer away. it will still work.

 

[falconhoof]

Because the difference between a modern mobile os and a desktop os nowadays isn't that huge anymore. As is the hardware.

But you still picked the smaller one to try and validate your argument than the one that had nearly 20 years of updates.

Of course even in the case of OSX you wouldn't be able to install the version from 2019 on 2001 hardware, but the difference in the approach is evolutionary. Windows 11 is a replacement for Windows 10, distinctly separate systems. I'm still yet to understand why Windows 10 could not just have been updated incrementally to include all useful security and feature updates to keep it going today instead of this stop and restart over approach.

TPM was the argument from MS, but that's kinda crumbled over time.

There was a comment from an ex-MS employee the other day talking about MS taking away means of people keeping the OS offline and how MS are pushing for data collection and user tracking over anything else. I sadly can't find it right now, but it did show some of the internal conflict going on with the direction the OS is going: Always online, always watching.

Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without an online account

Microsoft is disabling the best local account workarounds

www.theverge.com

 

[falconhoof]

i doubt anyone is dumb enough to throw a computer away. it will still work.

You should check out some office dumpster diving videos. People have pulled very good hardware from waste. It happens, you just don't want to believe it does because it sounds stupid. Stupid exists.

 

[clem84]

OP here.

Turns out my PC was compatible after all. I had to run an app to confirm it, I forget the name, and then the Win11 installation program was able to proceed with the installation. Win11 isn't so bad, I just need to get used to it, and also remove bloatware and as many anti-privacy features as I can.

I also went to my mom's place and did her PC as well. Her PC had a CPU that was unsupported so I couldn't upgrade the same way. I found a workaround and it works for now. Windows11 is installed on her machine. However there might be a cost further down the road. A Reddit post I found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/1mt1bi3/how_do_i_upgrade_to_windows_11_with_unsupported/

Win 11 on a pre-8th gen CPU even with TPM 2.0 can work if you do this or bypass install checks other ways, but you lose some security features: older CPUs lack hardware support for VBS (Virtualization-Based Security), HVCI/Memory Integrity, Mode-Based Execution Control (MBEC), which Win11 may expect to be enabled and rely on more in future, and newer exploit mitigations which can make the system less secure.

You may also face blocked feature updates in the future, no guaranteed security patches, and future driver/compatibility issues since your hardware isn't validated for Windows 11.

I mean go nuts, do it, but that's the downside.