The Outer Worlds 2 hits 18,251 all-time CCU peak on Steam
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Kacho
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Seems like it. Cant quite crack 13k.
Down to #5 on the best sellers list.
Asia will be busy with Dragon Quest this weekend.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Without knowing how much revenue, it's useless to known rankings. Usually people wildly overestimate how much games sell on Steam.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Can I celebrate already or nah
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
calico
Member
Seems likely. I would have expected 2x Avowed.
WellSheet
Member
Well, it has a lot of LGBTQ+ friendly messaging.l and themes. Your…ahem…female character can have a dick lol.
I'll say it swings both ways, I can agree to that…
Yes, I understand it's set in alternate future, but that furthers proves a bigger point that all this fantasy social identity politics shit is booshit
I wholeheartedly agree the game is phenomenal.
Fbh
Member
Also ugly as fuck art direction.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's exactly why I tagged you
You're big into steam numbers but here they're being thoroughly disregarded.
Kacho
Gold Member
Unrelated but peep thisThat's exactly why I tagged you
You're big into steam numbers but here they're being thoroughly disregarded.
Capgod? Capgod.
Skifi28
Member
They're an indication, but far from the full picture as they depend on how heavily PC-centric a game is. Sillent Hill 2 remake was a good recent reminder that they can be really off.
balls of snow
Member
Bought the deluxe edition with the expansion pass last week. Not even downloaded it because Im finishing up Bloodlines 2.
Kacho
Gold Member
You talking about the sales estimates from VGinsights, etc? Yeah, I don't bother with those. You might as well pull sales data from VGChartz. Nah I'm good.
Opening weekend charts (top sellers, CCUs) for new AA/AAA games on Steam gives us an idea, nothing more nothing less.
If Outer Worlds 2 happens to perform worse than Avowed on Steam, that's noteworthy IMO.
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Skifi28
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No, I'm talking about the official announcement from Konami about over 2 million sales when steam ccus were a little over 20k, which painted a completely wrong picture about how well the game did.
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playbignbox
Member
I'm not interested, I didn't like the previous one.
kazuyamishima
Member
in Europe (excluding UK), Silent Hill 2 remake initial week sales had PS5 at 78% of the total sales and PC at 22%.
Some games sell better on Steam, some games sell better on PS5.
The Steam CCU is important data, but it doesn't tell us the whole picture.
As for this game, it doesn't look good elsewhere, and the game doesn't look cheap as well.
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ChorizoPicozo
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This is crazy cuz retardera went nuclear against that game
Kacho
Gold Member
I guess I missed the conversation where people said it was a flop based on Steam CCUs alone.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
T around : 55minutes/ -1:00:15
Overall, terrible morale at Xbox:
People feel they dont have anything to look forward to (the more you are in the trenches, the worse it is)
Most people feel "they will be next"
Because the job market is soft, they feel they have to hold to their job. But a lot of people at Xbox are sending resumes to other companies every week.
They are trying to flee Xbox, no faith in the company, worried about A.I. taking over.
A few years ago, MS founded/greenlit a lot of games:Most people feel "they will be next"
Because the job market is soft, they feel they have to hold to their job. But a lot of people at Xbox are sending resumes to other companies every week.
They are trying to flee Xbox, no faith in the company, worried about A.I. taking over.
Non-typical leads/settings nothing special beyond THAT. = Flops everywhere.
People worried about getting axed.
Some leakers are worried about the "framing" of the info. If you know what i mean
His opinion:People worried about getting axed.
Some leakers are worried about the "framing" of the info. If you know what i mean
ABK acquisition was bad, and it will affect the entire industry (wages)
My opinion:
Edit: Something related to what he said in "his opinion":
Xbox has been spending money without the proper checks and balances, green-lighting games just for the sake of it. Not supporting studios in the process and having poor marketing...If Concord was an institutional failure...Xbox is cultural rot.
Nadella talks about being a great publisher. Even people like Colin take for granted this "success" or "greatness".
....People should be really scared.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
OK well, I tried it out but I wasn't feeling it. I just requested a refund before my 2 hours were up.
Reminded me too much of the first Outer Worlds. I don't care for the millennial writing. It feels like they're trying sooooooo hard to be funny and witty. It makes it really difficult to take anything seriously or to give a crap about whatever objective I'm trying to accomplish.
Maybe I'll give it another shot when it goes on sale but I'd rather have my 70 bucks back right now. It didn't grab me like I hoped it would.
Reminded me too much of the first Outer Worlds. I don't care for the millennial writing. It feels like they're trying sooooooo hard to be funny and witty. It makes it really difficult to take anything seriously or to give a crap about whatever objective I'm trying to accomplish.
Maybe I'll give it another shot when it goes on sale but I'd rather have my 70 bucks back right now. It didn't grab me like I hoped it would.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
I never understood why they tried so hard to rip off fallout with the low tech 50s aesthetic.
Just make your own game.
The first area of The outer worlds 1 pretty much summed up what the entire game would be. If you saw the first hour, you saw the entire game.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah I always thought it felt so try-hard, between the wannabe Fallout kitschy retro-futurism vibe + the wannabe Idiocracy humor where people mindlessly repeat corporate slogans. It's like if you let Reddit write a WRPG.
They really doubled down on that in OW2 as well (from the little bit I've seen). So many cranks, dials, levers, old timey typewriter keyboards, even computer terminals look like old fashioned cash registers or something. Everything looks like children's playground equipment.
Durin
Member
I'd argue Avowed helped this game do worse because of it's middling reception.
WellSheet
Member
That's because one of the devs made some innocuous statement, I don't even recall what, and they decided it was -phobic of some sort - then they (CDPR) tried softly to make sure they did the DEI virtue signal shut.
Again, game is great; loved it! But it certainly wasn't espousing any value sets that aligned anywhere with the right, and nor was the dev team after that dev said whatever he said.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Wow, you're so cool!
MidGenRefresh
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The artist behind The Outer Worlds (Leonard Boyarsky) was the original creative mind behind Fallout's aesthetic. It's not that hard to understand.
Also, the Fallout aesthetic is not "50s". It's what people in the 90s imagined people in the 50s thought the 2070s would look like.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Obsidian has been dying since Chris Avellone left. Microsoft is destroying the studio that gave us Fallout New Vegas.
DenchDeckard
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I'd say they quadrupled down on the aesthetics they were going for in the second one, and it's glorious. Really, really beautiful stuff. I'd love to see Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscurain in 3D with this level of fidelity.
Seomel
Member
Avowed had hype of being fantasy, but it turned out garbage quick enough.
Honestly, i sailed high seas to try outer worlds 2 and its better than first so far, its solid so far. I eonder if most numbers as usual will be from gamepass.
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geary
Gold Member
You know, I think a lot of people can't really tell anymore when something in a game comes from a real creative impulse versus when it's been dropped in to tick some ideological box. The line between genuine storytelling and message-pushing has gotten really blurry. It's easier to put a stamp on a game at this moment based on a checklist, even not knowing what that stamp means anymore.
Someone mentioned few replies back the supposed "woke" stuff from game 10-15 years ago, which are now considered classics.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Gay guy here, like everything LGBTQ+ it's mostly for boring straight people.
Most of us normal gays haven't constructed an entire personality around sucking cock.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Two out of eight main companions in New Vegas are homosexual, one gay and one lesbian. I don't recall anyone calling that game woke. In The Outer Worlds 2, none of the companions are openly gay.
balls of snow
Member
What can I say, its my mid November game along with cod.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
As someone else pointed out, it probably didn't sell much on Steam. The majority of the sales likely came from PS5. Steam CCUs don't tell much about how well something is selling on PS5.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I want to point out that given that both threads on GAF have people coming in and moaning about LGTVBBQ+ stuff and looks etc, but this thread is much bigger and has a larger presence on NeoGAF (its an established studio after all)
I would like to say I think both these games where great, the difference though is in the price. Microsoft overreached with their 60-90 price tag. Im not saying they should of sold it for £25 but they sure as hell shouldn't have started at £60 and £90 for the deluxe is a joke.
We can't go back but I honestly believe that is the biggest issue, the game is great so Its not that, so it has to be the pricing. It puts the point across that if you overstep the perceived value of your product then you can make less money than something selling at half your price. Microsoft need to be flexible on their pricing on a product by product basis, their original attempt of selling this for £70-100 before dropping it by £10 showed they where aware, but they massively underestimated the value gamers saw, it needed a £20 price cut at least not £10 to be competitive, this also is why the first game sold more, it was a lower price.
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PeteBull
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Bro, woke game/movie is very peculiar thing, look at this movie cast:
And if u ad kevin peter hall(7feet black guy who played predator) its crazy diverse, super respectful etc, just it doesnt break immersion/doesnt present delusional values/worldview when current day predator would be bunch of butch diseabled lesbians with wildly coloured hair running around the jungle, destroying patriarchy and showing off how "strong and independend" they are
I will give u another example, proper classic terminator 2 begining( arnie arrival scene):
vs basically copy pasted with all the wokeness added in- terminator 6(dark fate):
Og is funny and timeless classic, dark fate is cringe and delusional on top of being of such of low quality, that if u showed both scenes to some random person who never saw those movies/lived under a rock last 45 years- they would undoubtfully say T2 scene was from more recent movie since it looked/played way better.
TLDR: Wokeness in media is like tatoos/piercings on a woman, its never positive and men can tolerate it to a point, different amount of tolerance depending on each man, but there comes a point it becomes very offputting, the more of it is showed up our throats the more offputing it gets.
Its only logical that when we looking for gf/wifey we dont want her to look like ms 13 gang member after all
Tbf the steam score is also dropping pretty fast. It already has a lower score than the first game. So maybe people just don't like it.I want to point out that given that both threads on GAF have people coming in and moaning about LGTVBBQ+ stuff and looks etc, but this thread is much bigger and has a larger presence on NeoGAF (its an established studio after all)
I would like to say I think both these games where great, the difference though is in the price. Microsoft overreached with their 60-90 price tag. Im not saying they should of sold it for £25 but they sure as hell shouldn't have started at £60 and £90 for the deluxe is a joke.
We can't go back but I honestly believe that is the biggest issue, the game is great so Its not that, so it has to be the pricing. It puts the point across that if you overstep the perceived value of your product then you can make less money than something selling at half your price. Microsoft need to be flexible on their pricing on a product by product basis, their original attempt of selling this for £70-100 before dropping it by £10 showed they where aware, but they massively underestimated the value gamers saw, it needed a £20 price cut at least not £10 to be competitive, this also is why the first game sold more, it was a lower price.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
Many of those reviews mention price as the major contributing factor while many many more mention progression ending bugs. There are a fair few that mention they simply dont like the game, but yes it has issues regardless.
OneBigPuss
Member
So is it a good game to play for the story if i never played the first one?
calico
Member
Game looks mid, predecessor was mediocre in every single regard, company reputation in the toilet, priced to push people to game pass... many reasons for this to flop, but it still should be handily beating Avowed imo. Its predecessor still sold 5m despite how mid it was, which gives the franchise some sort of footprint.
Avowed had a small amount of buzz when the reveal trailer dropped (when it was going to be a different game) and then no other buzz besides the controversies.
Avowed had a small amount of buzz when the reveal trailer dropped (when it was going to be a different game) and then no other buzz besides the controversies.
DenchDeckard
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I really don't think it helps launching this full priced single player game slap bang in the middle of two huge multiplayer games that is the only thing streamers are playing.
I think it will go down as a cult classic and find it's audience.
It's so much better than the first game in every way.
I think it will go down as a cult classic and find it's audience.
It's so much better than the first game in every way.
yes
ChuckeRearmed
Member
The game is ugly and a woke slop.
why is it woke?