Buggy Loop
Gold Member
BryanK going to PC?
[Rumor] New Symbols Hint at Crossbuy between PlayStation and PC
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Sony fans are going to be really confused trying to talk shit on Xbox PC and Play Anywhere now 
simpatico
Gold Member
Smart since there's no other chance of survival is Xbox does what we think they're gonna do. The launch library will just be too much to overcome. 2 million titles vs 13 and most* PS5 games? Plus we swear Naughty Dog will release a game for this one! Promise. Maybe even Bend too if you fans behave on X!
Mister Wolf
Member
Hopefully they had some PC exclusive tech features for Wolverine and Saros. It's what us PC players deserve.
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Mr Moose
Member
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
A limited edition controller with claws that pop out.
Mister Wolf
Member
RTGI, RT Shadows, RT Reflections, or RTAO. Higher resolution texture pack is always nice too.
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GHG
Gold Member
Sony fans are going to be really confused trying to talk shit on Xbox PC and Play Anywhere now
If their implementation is just as shit as it is with play anywhere then it will get the same scrutiny and criticism.
There are already people talking about how shit they anticipate any potential PC storefront being, along with the fact that the "crossbuy" will likely be via that said storefront.
All of that makes it a far less attractive proposition, and just like the situation with play anywhere, people who only game on PC aren't going to give a shit about any of this.
The difference is that people are actually having open discussions about it throughout this thread without the usual corporate zombies attempting to shut things down by dismissing people's valid concerns.
Nice try at attempting to drag the conversation down to your level though.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Apparently it's fake
Edit: actually he made a video from his PSN account it looks real
Edit: actually he made a video from his PSN account it looks real
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Editing software is a thing, I'd wait for conformation from actual credible dataminers
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I think that PS5/PC icon(if it's even real) is about the account trophy-sharing a cross-progression, sounds way more credible than a PC launcher. Nothing pointing at PC store anyway, Sony just eased PSN-prison for few games like Tsushima on Steam just recently.
If their implementation is just as shit as it is with play anywhere then it will get the same scrutiny and criticism.
There are already people talking about how shit they anticipate any potential PC storefront being, along with the fact that the "crossbuy" will likely be via that said storefront.
All of that makes it a far less attractive proposition, and just like the situation with play anywhere, people who only game on PC aren't going to give a shit about any of this.
The difference is that people are actually having open discussions about it throughout this thread without the usual corporate zombies attempting to shut things down by dismissing people's valid concerns.
Nice try at attempting to drag the conversation down to your level though.
GHG
Gold Member
The account trophy sharing stuff already exists though if you link you psn account via one of their PC games on Steam. For example I've only ever played HZD remastered via the PC version (I haven't even purchased the upgrade on PS5) and this is how it appears on my trophy list:
And all the trophies I have for the game on my Steam account are also listed on my psn profile as psn trophies.
So if there's anything to all of this, then it points towards something else.
Topher
Identifies as young
HeisenbergFX4
Member
MLB The Show on PC finally?
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
That could be just a new indicator for the feature, in 3rd party games too. I dunno, really.The account trophy sharing stuff already exists though if you link you psn account via one of their PC games on Steam. For example I've only ever played HZD remastered via the PC version (I haven't even purchased the upgrade on PS5) and this is how it appears on my trophy list:
And all the trophies I have for the game on my Steam account are also listed on my psn profile as psn trophies.
So if there's anything to all of this, then it points towards something else.
And I'm sure cross-buy is just for portable PS, just like low-powered mode.
Astray
Gold Member
I definitely remember
Mibu no ookami
talking about it multiple times.It's long been my opinion that timed exclusivity is going to make a comeback next-gen.
My theory is the reason it's not happening much anymore is due to lack of offers, not lack of takers. No coincidence that Sony and Nintendo are both showing record profits in an era where timed exclusivity is at its lowest.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Can Heisenberg play as Heisenberg in the game?
PurePlatinum
Member
SIE cannot possibly think people want their launcher on PC right? Their own first-party games don't even do that well on Steam (stellar blade aside for the gooners)
ChorizoPicozo
Member
#TrojanHorse, #PSTakeOver, #PSDomiNation, #ExclusivesBad, #WhenEverybodyPlayWeAllWin, #EverythingIsPlayStation, #PSIsProConsumer
, #ConcordWasHere
, #VitaMeanLife.
, #ConcordWasHere, #VitaMeanLife.
Mister Wolf
Member
Prime Heisenberg vs Yamamoto World Series game 7.
clappedcheeks
Member
If Sony has a pc store and PlayStation players migrate over to windows then Sony lose the 30% cut for 3rd parties sales in their own ecosystem. Why would they kneecap their business like that? If they are an icon on a windows desktop then that ex PlayStation console player is now captured by Microsoft. Yes windows is an open OS but it's Microsoft that are the beneficiaries of all the marketplaces converging in their OS. They have access to every user and will monetise them by selling data and advertising to them.
Sony have to look after their own business and what you are suggesting will lead to the death of the PlayStation ecosystem.
lughnasadh123
Member
That's less money for games and less people buying sony consoles. Not sure how this makes any sense for them.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
cuz is not
AmuroChan
Member
Sony is just not good with PC software. That goes back decades. I still remember their crappy ebook an mini disk sync software back in the day, lol.
True, I remember those minidisc days too, but Sony isn't one person. They just have to hire the right people to get it done right this time.
Iced Arcade
Member
Drop steam, Make it's own launcher and block Xbox platforms? (Honestly don't know if that's a possibility or not)
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Not this game.
I own a few games that I can though
My son would enjoy playing against me as me and being a relief pitcher of course my in game stamina would run out after a couple of innings and he would light me up and just laugh his ass off
StereoVsn
Gold Member
That would be good but it's been 30 years and they still haven't hired them.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
That is certainly a good way to limit their own PC sales, but hey, whatever works for them.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Lovely family gaming scenario, love it. Thanks for sharing, my old gent.Not this game.
I own a few games that I can though
My son would enjoy playing against me as me and being a relief pitcher of course my in game stamina would run out after a couple of innings and he would light me up and just laugh his ass off
ChorizoPicozo
Member
And you think they wouldn't? PS is basically sustaining Sony.
MLiD has said that Sony is having a strong direction to make PS6 as affordable as possible.
If Sony makes its own PC launcher (regardless of its business intentions), that would be the strongest way to protect its ecosystem and games. But let's see. Making a successful storefront is hard.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Sony fans are going to be really confused trying to talk shit on Xbox PC and Play Anywhere now
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Ohh let me play the screenshot game
Back when a certain someone was still at Xbox he said several times PS games on PC was only a matter of time, day and date
Topher
Identifies as young
Ohh let me play the screenshot game
Back when a certain someone was still at Xbox he said several times PS games on PC was only a matter of time, day and date
At this point, I think the most foolish thing anyone can say in the gaming industry is "X will never happen". This generation has flipped some hard truths on their head. We are through the looking glass. People stopped making jokes about "bizarro world" because that's where we live now.
playbignbox
Member
Excellent, it will be easier for you to migrate from PlayStation to PC.
amigastar
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Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Just a dude making discord icons. Debunked.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Guess the PS PC launcher lives after all huh?
If I had to guess, this is PS5 cross-buy with PS games on their own launcher. But if I also had to guess, I think it means they're going to push Day 1 for all or most of their games on PC...on their PlayStation PC storefront/launcher. When/if those games come to Steam or elsewhere, probably still the same 12-15 months timeframe for non-GAAS (and Day 1 for GAAS titles).
The crossbuy being for the handheld makes no sense because it won't need bespoke SKUs; it's just running the PlayStation console SKU with some power mode changes so the battery doesn't drain in 10 minutes of playtime. Imagine having a bespoke B2P SKU for a handheld made to play the console's games; that'd be a messaging nightmare for SIE.
I suppose, but there's a difference of sorts if "Day 1" (particularly for non-GAAS titles in this case) pertains to SIE's own PS storefront & launcher. At least in that case, they can implement security checks to cut out piracy and still retain/maximize lateral transfer of buying habits between the console and PC (since SIE'd be the platform holder of both the console and storefront).
If this instead is SIE going Day 1 on PC and not bringing about their own storefront, as in Day 1 on Steam or GOG or EGS, then all I can say is the level of stupid at SIE would be unprecedented in the industry. Or maybe better to say, the level of hubris & arrogance. Day 1 of games on massive storefronts outside of their control is what helped accelerate the brand irrelevancy of Xbox consoles this gen IMHO. Just because PlayStation has larger brand cache, doesn't mean they won't face some of type of similar erosion by trying the same putting their big blockbusters on competing storefronts like Steam Day 1.
I'd like to think SIE's leadership is smart enough to realize this, though. They shouldn't need people on forums to tell them what's right or wrong to do.
Their PC sales for the past few titles have been pretty garbage as-is so it's not like SIE'd be losing much of importance if they did it :/
Glad to see this mentioned, because it actually highlights the biggest risk SIE takes in bringing a storefront/launcher to PC/Windows. If it's only for their games, and if those games are present Day 1, then it could definitely convince a decent chunk of PS players to go to the PC storefront for 1P titles. But, they may also be more inclined to use Steam, EGS, GOG, Game Pass etc. for the 3P titles, and that would incur a big hit on SIE's revenue and profit margins (potentially).
Only way SIE could truly mitigate that risk is by having the same 3P software support on their launcher that they have on the console, right from the start. And that is probably nigh impossible.
If I had to guess, this is PS5 cross-buy with PS games on their own launcher. But if I also had to guess, I think it means they're going to push Day 1 for all or most of their games on PC...on their PlayStation PC storefront/launcher. When/if those games come to Steam or elsewhere, probably still the same 12-15 months timeframe for non-GAAS (and Day 1 for GAAS titles).
The crossbuy being for the handheld makes no sense because it won't need bespoke SKUs; it's just running the PlayStation console SKU with some power mode changes so the battery doesn't drain in 10 minutes of playtime. Imagine having a bespoke B2P SKU for a handheld made to play the console's games; that'd be a messaging nightmare for SIE.
Ohh let me play the screenshot game
Back when a certain someone was still at Xbox he said several times PS games on PC was only a matter of time, day and date
I suppose, but there's a difference of sorts if "Day 1" (particularly for non-GAAS titles in this case) pertains to SIE's own PS storefront & launcher. At least in that case, they can implement security checks to cut out piracy and still retain/maximize lateral transfer of buying habits between the console and PC (since SIE'd be the platform holder of both the console and storefront).
If this instead is SIE going Day 1 on PC and not bringing about their own storefront, as in Day 1 on Steam or GOG or EGS, then all I can say is the level of stupid at SIE would be unprecedented in the industry. Or maybe better to say, the level of hubris & arrogance. Day 1 of games on massive storefronts outside of their control is what helped accelerate the brand irrelevancy of Xbox consoles this gen IMHO. Just because PlayStation has larger brand cache, doesn't mean they won't face some of type of similar erosion by trying the same putting their big blockbusters on competing storefronts like Steam Day 1.
I'd like to think SIE's leadership is smart enough to realize this, though. They shouldn't need people on forums to tell them what's right or wrong to do.
Their PC sales for the past few titles have been pretty garbage as-is so it's not like SIE'd be losing much of importance if they did it :/
Glad to see this mentioned, because it actually highlights the biggest risk SIE takes in bringing a storefront/launcher to PC/Windows. If it's only for their games, and if those games are present Day 1, then it could definitely convince a decent chunk of PS players to go to the PC storefront for 1P titles. But, they may also be more inclined to use Steam, EGS, GOG, Game Pass etc. for the 3P titles, and that would incur a big hit on SIE's revenue and profit margins (potentially).
Only way SIE could truly mitigate that risk is by having the same 3P software support on their launcher that they have on the console, right from the start. And that is probably nigh impossible.
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laynelane
Member
Cross-buy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
PlayStation showing PlayStation the way.
Yeah, I remember being pleasantly surprised that a few games I bought on PS3 had free PS4 versions.
Audible Silence
Member
i welcome a PC launcher... at least then i can join Playstation parties for people too dense to look at discord.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Maybe the games have been less than they should be, ie they suck.
