The person I responded to said GaaS
[Push Square via Sacred Symbols] PS5, PC Live Service Fairgames Is a 'Super Clunky' Cross Between Fortnite and The Division
vaibhavpisal
Member
Sony is in a pickle now.
Cancel the game now
Or
Issue refunds after release.
Personally I would like fellow Playstation players atleast get to try it before throwing it under the bus.
Cancel the game now
Or
Issue refunds after release.
Personally I would like fellow Playstation players atleast get to try it before throwing it under the bus.
coachmcguirk91
Member
Wasn't this game supposed to be like Payday? I'm excited at the notion that it is not Payday, but there is a literal goldmine sitting there, given how badly Payday 3 performed
Lunarorbit
Member
What if instead of wasting all this time on gaas Sony put out a VR game? Wtf are they doing? If they had supported 2 smaller studios in 2nd party deals they would have made way more head way.
It's embarrassing how often Sony drops peripherals but doubles down on gaas
It's embarrassing how often Sony drops peripherals but doubles down on gaas
coachmcguirk91
Member
I proudly bought Concord. And was very excited for when they offered refunds
Game was fun for a good 15-20 hrs. I'll die on that hill
Kabelly
Member
After finishing TLOU II again in 5 years and reliving the gameplay, Factions was one of the worst cancellations they could have done. If they got it right it would be bigger than Helldivers and would still be played today.
The no return mode they added almost feels like remnants of what could have been. It's too bad they had the expecation of endless content. I wish it was just a one and done mode.
They really flubbed every release so far.
The no return mode they added almost feels like remnants of what could have been. It's too bad they had the expecation of endless content. I wish it was just a one and done mode.
They really flubbed every release so far.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
the conspiracy theory is that Sony is pushing marathon knowing it will flop in order to not pay the Bungie's executives.
in terms of optics... have you seen the narrative around Marathon? is referred as a Concord 2.0. the word Concord is even used as a verb.
Concord did massive damage to the brand. i bet they regret releasing that shit.
vaibhavpisal
Member
coolmast3r
Member
Good. The more live-service stuff fails the better. Suits in charge of GAAS initiatives simply don't understand any language other than the language of financial disasters.
Fake
Member
I don't think 'Hermen' and 'balls' should be in the same sentence.
ComputerBlue
Member
Good, we got cheated out of what should've been a great gen on a really great console because Sony went on a paper chase instead of doing what they do best.
LordCBH
Member
The number must go up, and it never goes up fast enough. They saw Forknife come out and print money and immediately said "fuck we need 7-8 of those."
Mister Wolf
Member
Sony keeps throwing money away.
Salz01
Member
I wish they threw it at me. I could make more use of it.
seb85
Member
She was fired
Cyberpunkd
Banned
It's up to her prospective new employer to take that into account, I wonder what spin she will put on it.
Cyberpunkd
Banned
Topher
Identifies as young
The phrase "they have more money than sense" comes to mind
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Bojji
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SplunkyMunkey
Member
I hate gaas games and despite the people are veterans etc etc I just blame sony buying pointless studios that hasn't made one single game and during that time the studio will end up closing. Still till this day I think bungie buyout was a waste of money
Killjoy-NL
Member
Sorry, too busy playing Conquest atm.
Fbh
Member
It's hilarious how clueless Sony leadership is regarding this stuff.
They bought both Heaven and Firesprite after apparently being so impressed by what they had seen behind the scenes that they just needed to secure these studios.
Now it's looking more and more likely that both these games that apparently blew away the higher ups at Sony were obvious turds lol.
I half believe the internal meetings were something like:
They bought both Heaven and Firesprite after apparently being so impressed by what they had seen behind the scenes that they just needed to secure these studios.
Now it's looking more and more likely that both these games that apparently blew away the higher ups at Sony were obvious turds lol.
I half believe the internal meetings were something like:
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SHAKEZ
Member
A game that can make money like the other SUPER Successful game? Take my money random studio, also tell all our other studio to make the very same game!It's hilarious how clueless Sony leadership is regarding this stuff.
They bought both Heaven and Firesprite after apparently being so impressed by what they had seen behind the scenes that they just needed to secure these studios.
Now it's looking more and more likely that both these games that apparently blew away the higher ups at Sony were obvious turds lol.
I half believe the internal meetings were something like:
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semiconscious
Member
well, when your options are either do this or actually somehow create a fortnite killer, i can see where someone would choose this one. the other option'd require way too much effort, not to mention a huge dose of pure luck...
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
PlayStation is in big, big trouble if none of these live service games hit big. 300 million dollar single player games that struggle to sell 10 million can't sustain the business.
They might get out of game dev all together if they can't find their cash cow. It's either that, or Spider-Man on Xbox, Switch and PC day and date. Those are the options.
They might get out of game dev all together if they can't find their cash cow. It's either that, or Spider-Man on Xbox, Switch and PC day and date. Those are the options.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Omg this just sounds completely awful. Would have been another, (somehow worse?) Concord. 
% will be, if they go through with launching it because it's "too late to not put it out". Whatever that even means. Normally that conversation shouldn't exist if your management structure isn't terrible. Right?! 
And we already have that with Marathon, so that would be THREE massive, embarrassing commercial flops in a row. No matter what they do with Marathon, they're screwed. But they would be less screwed if they just took the egg on the face and canceled it or indefinitely delayed it.
Like, honestly, I respected the hell out of PS first-party during the PS3 and PS4 era. They were cranking, they were on fire
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What the fuck happened??? What is going on??? Sony fanboys/girls, someone explain this to me.
% will be, if they go through with launching it because it's "too late to not put it out". Whatever that even means. Normally that conversation shouldn't exist if your management structure isn't terrible. Right?! And we already have that with Marathon, so that would be THREE massive, embarrassing commercial flops in a row. No matter what they do with Marathon, they're screwed. But they would be less screwed if they just took the egg on the face and canceled it or indefinitely delayed it.
Like, honestly, I respected the hell out of PS first-party during the PS3 and PS4 era. They were cranking, they were on fire
. What the fuck happened??? What is going on??? Sony fanboys/girls, someone explain this to me.
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ByWatterson
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Jade Raymond is the Phil Harrison of Amy Henigs
mayham2199
Member
Yes great to watch people more people lose their jobs. Hey that's karma for you punish the random devs that'll teach Sony. While they make record revenue and the first game company to reach 30 billion.
FeastYoEyes
Member
Never buy a product for what it might be, including studios. I don't get why they went ahead and bought all these studios before they had ever delivered anything.
Physiognomonics
Member
Don't worry. they can still increase consoles prices everywhere (bar USA obviously).
Jim Ryan happened.Omg this just sounds completely awful. Would have been another, (somehow worse?) Concord.
And we already have that with Marathon, so that would be THREE massive, embarrassing commercial flops in a row. No matter what they do with Marathon, they're screwed. But they would be less screwed if they just took the egg on the face and canceled it or indefinitely delayed it.
Like, honestly, I respected the hell out of PS first-party during the PS3 and PS4 era. They were cranking, they were on fire
What the fuck happened??? What is going on??? Sony fanboys/girls, someone explain this to me.
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Hero_Select
Member
Sony this gen has been abysmal my god
Puscifer
Member
Who's complaining about the Returnal sequel? If anything taking the Hades Approach takes away the big complaints people had about that game. I know I'm in Day 1They still got time to tighten things up. Isn't that what these play tests are for? A mix between Fortnite and the Division sounds very interesting, but it seems like no matter what game Sony puts out, its going to get irrational hate no matter what. Even the sequel to Returnal has people saying its just going to " be more of the same".
They just need to make sure to nail the gameplay loop. If its fun, the gamers will come...
Holammer
Member
Nothing wrong with GAAS, but there's an ideological angle to Sony productions which makes them unpalatable to general audiences, but many of their creatives would rather have Sony die than add the necessary waifus.
Passable codename for any of the unreleased Concord characters
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
From the same podcast, some tidbits on Marathon's marketing (or lack thereof)
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
I will be amazed if this doesn't get cancelled
Chittagong
Gold Member
Man I love these huge profile failures - Concord, Marathon, TLoU online, Fairgames
Because they will become like an electric shock collar for publishers, and the offence that gives them a shock is footing the bill for retarded games
Because they will become like an electric shock collar for publishers, and the offence that gives them a shock is footing the bill for retarded games
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Fabieter
Member
It was a scam selling it for this kinda money.
It will, even the hulst&co not stupid and arrogant enough to release the second concord
TheRaidenPT
Member
Just imagine putting all this GAAS money into IPs like Jak and Daxter, Getaway, Sly Cooper, SOCOM or you know.. New IPs in Single player format… Heck even Syphon Filter and expanding Bend Studio.
This generation has been absolutely bunkers, just wasted years chasing the bloody Live Service cash cow
This generation has been absolutely bunkers, just wasted years chasing the bloody Live Service cash cow
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TheRaidenPT
Member
Well; technically a Concord with stolen assets.. at least that wasn't one of the worries for the management with Concord
