Glad to read you are having fun with it! I recommend those two webpages to anyone with a Steam Deck, first one is for general troubleshooting (great for older games) and the second one will give you tips for any game and how to run them the best in the Deck.
www.pcgamingwiki.com
When I look at how the steam deck is aging, I have to disagree but like you said, we'll see once it comes out.
the Steam Store is much most vast... all kinds of niche games, gems, experiments etc across it. I prefer a lot of that (at actually competitive prices with regular deep sales) over the PS or Xbox stores, no question
In order to say you are 2.1 you need to have a variety of requirements to "pass" so if it is missing requirement X then it can't say it is 2.1 even if that requirement has nothing to do with the purpose of that port.
Thank youGlad to read you are having fun with it! I recommend those two webpages to anyone with a Steam Deck, first one is for general troubleshooting (great for older games) and the second one will give you tips for any game and how to run them the best in the Deck.
PCGamingWiki PCGW - an encyclopedia of PC game fixes
LectureMaster
pointed out, the specs of this device is very much in line with what a large number of Steam gamers have right now. You are looking at this from a console gamer perspective and that doesn't make any sense. These console arguments around generations and such do not have the same meaning as what you think they do.I'm not angry, I'm just calling you out for being just as guilty of lying as he is. You aimed to refute his statement by saying a pc can play..... However, the steam machine as shipped is not like other pcs is it? A macbook is also a pc yet can't play a host of games.OP opened the thread with a lie and I pointed that out. If that makes you mad it's none of my business.
It will be a giant difference for several games, like modded Skyrim.
I never lie. Prove it.
Yeah it is. It comes with an OS. Don't like it? Put another OS on it.
No if you install Windows.
Not by a large margin, it isn't.
It has shit RAM and VRAM to reduce cost.
If you install windows, it's no longer a steam machine, it's a windows pc. The op's argument was centered around the steam box as shipped. It's explicitly clear.
The Steam Machine is a PC. If you intall windows on it, it's still a PC.
Right there. It's a lie of omission. He frames the steam box as if it's equivalent to a windows pc. It's not until you remove steam from it which entirely defeats the purpose of buying this thing. Using his implied definition, a macbook is also a pc after all you can install windows via wine.
No need to remove SteamOS to install Windows. Just make a separate partition for those 5 or 6 games that don't run on SteamOS.
It's not a lie of omission when it's the truth though. Even the Steam Deck (much less powerful than the new Steam Machine) can play "most games from the 80s up till today". Just because there are a few recent games that are either too demanding or contain incompatible anti-cheat or DRM doesn't move the needle even to put that number below 99%. Maybe not even below 99.9%.
Console exclusives still exist but Steam gets them all (nearly all). And a nice looking and quiet PC for the living room can be a great secondary device for PC gamers.
... which will take away yet another chunk of the Steam Machine's already modest performance!
Yes in the way that a mac is also a pc. For the vast majority of the world, it is not. The term pc has become synonymous with Windows. So if it's not windows, it's viewed as something else. There are lots and lots of games you can't play on steam os. I say this as someone who owns a steam deck oled. Let's not pretend it's the same.
... which will take away yet another chunk of the Steam Machine's already modest performance!
Space comes at a premium in the higher pop locations. The dude is onto something.
Technically you can also swap .dll's to support FSR 4 and Valve did say they were in talks with AMD to see if they could get it on there. Ideally AMD would just go ahead and release the INT8 version of FSR 4, but its AMD. Smh.
No...
In 2025 to the vast majority of people, a pc is synonymous with windows. It has a vast majority of the os share and the rest is pretty much gobbled up by mac os. By your loose definition, anything using x86 hardware is a pc and that includes consoles. The same is true for mobile phones which you can also classify as a personal computer. If we can classify everything as a pc by your loose definition, then your definition has no value. Afterall, pc just means personal computer and many devices can be transformed to be used as a personal computer.
You're fair to classify it as such but there's a reason why there's a clear distinction between a mac and a pc in the mind of the general public. They're not seen as the same despite the fact that they can both run the same os.
Thunderbolt and OCuLink for the 2 main interfaces, I've checked over the spec on the machine but it doesn't mention anything about Thunderbolt so it might not be compatible T_T
So... what does arguing the semantics of what is and isn't considered a PC have to do with the Steam machine and it being in trouble because it's "current gen" by console standards? You've lost me.
He's just as lost lol, dude even forgot where he left the goalpost.
You'll also be able to build your own in the near future.
Are these the only games modern gamers play?Correct me if I'm wrong but, you can't even play games like Battlefield 6, COD, or Fortnite on steam os...
As one person already pointed out, awful lot of Valve dick sucking going on around here.
I'd suggest asking
TintoConCasera
that exact question. He tried to misrepresent the OP's point by arguing that generations don't matter because its a "pc". A pc that is incompatible with many games in ways that a windows pc is not.
I didn't try anything. I successfully pointed out a lie in OP's very first line of his post.
Such a disingenuous comment.
That PC is compatible with Windows and with that also compatible with "every" game. /captainobviousout
