That's unfortunate because I can easily list the amount of issues I've had to deal with this year. For example, some older games not launching on steam. Turned out to be an issue with Windows 11. Had to put the games in compatibility mode.I can't even remember the last thing that broke before the FH3 case.
This is also not true. In comparison to consoles, things on pc are more likely to release broken. I game on both and have come across broken releases on pc more than I have on console. I've also experienced more instability on pc than on console. Then there are things like the lack of precompiled shaders which causes niggling performance issues. Also more stutters and a less smoother experience in some games despite having significantly more powerful hardware.Things are less likely to release and remain broken, not more. Monter Hunter Wilds is also performing or looking like shit on consoles so it's Capcom entire fault there.
It likely will, it shows quite a few signs of the dot com bubble, and even when it bursts AI will stick around. Demand will just go down, with fewer companies remaining that are actually producing value with the tech.
That's like hoping another Black Thursday happens so you can get cheaper canned drinks from the Pepsi machine.Fingers crossed.
If it does, it is highly likely that prices for PC components like GPUs and RAM would drop, potentially returning to or even falling below pre-AI boom levels.
"Broken" releases are almost all patched quicky while on consoles crap IQ and frame rates are almost never fixed. Spiderman 2 has more and better RT options plus ray reconstruction on PC so not the same thing on PS5. Plus on Linux there are few stutters.That's unfortunate because I can easily list the amount of issues I've had to deal with this year. For example, some older games not launching on steam. Turned out to be an issue with Windows 11. Had to put the games in compatibility mode.
This is also not true. In comparison to consoles, things on pc are more likely to release broken. I game on both and have come across broken releases on pc more than I have on console. I've also experienced more instability on pc than on console. Then there are things like the lack of precompiled shaders which causes niggling performance issues. Also more stutters and a less smoother experience in some games despite having significantly more powerful hardware.
Till this day, Spiderman 2 still experiences stutters on pc when RT is enabled meanwhile on ps5, it's stutter free with RT.
I went into an Apple store for the first time in my life today.
I've never been more sure that a Mac mini + a Steam Machine is the way forward.
It's time to get off the Microsoft plantation.
So it's a you problem.A certain kind of mind(benchmarkers, overclockers, tweekers, OCD, neurosis, overthinkers) will never enjoy a game again after swapping to PC and buying bleeding edge hardware.
I have that kind of mind.
That's like hoping another Black Thursday happens so you can get cheaper canned drinks from the Pepsi machine.
I mean, I'll allow it, but it will wreck the economy, not sure it will be the boon for gaming we expect....
My desktop for personal use is a Mac Studio and my gaming PC runs Bazzite. Haven't had Windows in my house in over a year.I went into an Apple store for the first time in my life today.
I've never been more sure that a Mac mini + a Steam Machine is the way forward.
It's time to get off the Microsoft plantation.
What do you need a Mac Mini for, if you don't mind me asking?
Please don't mention the irrelevant os's known as Linux and broken releases are not almost always patched. That's a lie. It would be one thing if I didn't game on PC but, I do and my experience doesn't match with anything you're saying at all. Maybe it's reflective of your experience and that's fair. However, don't extrapolate trends from your experience because I don't think it aligns with the larger discussion in the PC space."Broken" releases are almost all patched quicky while on consoles crap IQ and frame rates are almost never fixed. Spiderman 2 has more and better RT options plus ray reconstruction on PC so not the same thing on PS5. Plus on Linux there are few stutters.
What games didn't receive patches after launch??Please don't mention the irrelevant os's known as Linux and broken releases are not almost always patched. That's a lie.
As someone with a PS5 Pro, Switch and 9070xt PC- all have their value.Well, with consoles we now have the first generation where the hardware actually gets more expensive instead of cheaper. And with PCs you also have to consider: no paywall for online play or cloud saves, cheaper games, free choice of input devices, and much more. Consoles are basically 'take it or leave it,' while PCs are 'everything's possible, nothing's mandatory.'
Skill issue.Please don't mention the irrelevant os's known as Linux and broken releases are not almost always patched. That's a lie. It would be one thing if I didn't game on PC but, I do and my experience doesn't match with anything you're saying at all. Maybe it's reflective of your experience and that's fair. However, don't extrapolate trends from your experience because I don't think it aligns with the larger discussion in the PC space.
Yea, feel free to say that. You're entitled to your opinion regardless of how unfounded or irrelevant it is...Skill issue.
It's founded and relevant. This is a skill issue.Yea, feel free to say that. You're entitled to your opinion regardless of how unfounded or irrelevant it is...
Well then don't extrapolate your experience either.Please don't mention the irrelevant os's known as Linux and broken releases are not almost always patched. That's a lie. It would be one thing if I didn't game on PC but, I do and my experience doesn't match with anything you're saying at all. Maybe it's reflective of your experience and that's fair. However, don't extrapolate trends from your experience because I don't think it aligns with the larger discussion in the PC space.
It must be so if you proclaim it Mr Knowitall. Carry your baseless speculations elsewhere. I have no interest in reading them.It's founded and relevant. This is a skill issue.
Good deals can be had. I got a used like new in the box 4070 on ebay for $464 last year. Again if you go that route you also have to use common sense like checking feedback to make sure the seller is legit. Sure the upper tier cards are insanely priced but I have learned the upper mid tier cards are more than capable.I think it is the price of GPUs.
There's a difference between buying a piece of tech for the sole purpose of buying it or for playing xy and z and in this case, The Witcher 4, GTA6 and TES6. You don't let the marketing bs affect your real needs and wants. It's the same thing when you decide to buy a new TV.The fact that PCs and PC components, are now seen as more than just vehicles for entertainment and creativity. They, especially their components and power, are now being viewed as investments.
Thanks to AI, crypto, and all that other tech-bro Web3 grifting shit, components like ram and GPUs which were simply once seen as products for gamers and creators like me and you, components that were exclusively for us to play games like Crysis and GTA5 at high framerates (or do some quick and easy blender renders), are now being scalped and overpriced in low supply. Corporations and organizations all over the world turned the common gaming PC (or workstation PC) into pure gold which can be sold for a high price.
Every day, there's some new shortage caused by some massive new tech """"discovery"""" (just another grift waiting to burst like everything else in this bubble). AI, crypto, chips, Sora2, whatever the fuck. And businesses rush to buy GPUs, Ram, CPUs, etc in bulk from companies who abandoned their loyal gamer and creator bases, while leaving us with 400% markup scraps that might not have all the advertised ROPs, enough VRAM or even a functional power connector.
Console gamers, as crazy as it sounds, really don't have to deal with being in competition with other multi billion dollar corporations overvaluing and then buying up all their hardware. OpenAI isn't going to buy up 12000 PS5s just to use their memory. People see these as gaming machines and the people who buy them are likely gamers. No miners, no AI "art" generators, no LLM losers. This combined with subsidization, very large used markets, and connections among companies like Sony and Nintendo mean they get somewhat reasonable prices. They only have to worry about the dumbass scalpers, who are honestly a significantly less ridiculous problem because they're just average middle class dudes trying to strike it rich, instead of technocrats and tech bro trust fund babies.
I'm a PC gamer, so maybe this is just me seeing the grass as greener on the other side. But other gamers have it so easy since their platforms are not as directly affected by all this new tech-grift bullshit that's been popping up for the past 8 years.
Yes. It's really, really good. But it's not a Ti or 5090 lol so phrasing may have been bad idk lol. Like almost every UE5 game still hasa ton of annoyances.WTF? You have a 4090, am I taking crazy pills?
The worst thing about PC gaming is....
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Yeah, I didn't buy all the components all at once. I also left myself and upgrade path.The Cost, other than that it's great.
It still shit, buggy and inconvenient…is listening to the stupid stuff people who haven't played on PC either ever or since 2010 have to say about the current PC gaming experience.
…is listening to the stupid stuff people who haven't played on PC either ever or since 2010 have to say about the current PC gaming experience.
It still shit, buggy and inconvenient
Was, is and for the most part will be enjoyment for geeks.
Yeah, it's PC fans favorite - hide head into the sand and try to not see the problems "everything is fine"Like this:
Yeah, it's PC fans favorite - hide head into the sand and try to not see the problems "everything is fine"
WWM (game launched last week) crashes drivers for me literally every day. And I have to restart PC every time as media start to open into black screen and half of games stop launching at all.
So convinient....
It's a shitty gaming for those who are ready to suffer for some pennies saved or ego of having "the most powerful blablabla"
Sorry, I'm not a nerd to enjoy spending my free time to "fix my shit"That's your problem and a problem with YOUR hardware. There are thousands of positive reviews of that game on Steam and people had no problems. Fix your shit.
I've been on my current setup for around 2 years now. I literally haven't had to do a hard restart on my PC even once. And that includes everything from new games to old games, games with mods, and even full mod conversions from Wabbajack.
If you're struggling with technology that much, then yeah, PC is not for you.
Sorry, I'm not a nerd to enjoy spending my free time to "fix my shit"
PC is for nerds, not for normal people who just want to turn device on and play, without this "fix this, fix that" bullshit
And my experience all the way from gtx480 is that it's always a mess - random stuttering, random lags/freezes, driver issues for both vendors, weak support for nonstandard configurations, random annoying glitches etc.That's your experience.
Another story for you - for some reason I have to turn controller before launching WWM, otherwise it'll not be recognized by the game. I have to check that controller is on before game started or will be forced to restart game. So convinient...
I use One Game Launcher from the Windows store now - works with Gamebar and made for controller too.The biggest two problems I have is the inability to use a controller for everything. Having to use a keyboard most of the time to launch games enter text etc from couch and the constant tinkering and bad pc ports.
Maybe it is less shit than 10 years ago, maybe. But in any case, with how little free time I have, having to waste even 5 minutes of my time to try to make shit work is unacceptable as far as I am concerned.It still shit, buggy and inconvenient
Was, is and for the most part will be enjoyment for geeks.
The fact that PCs and PC components, are now seen as more than just vehicles for entertainment and creativity. They, especially their components and power, are now being viewed as investments.
Thanks to AI, crypto, and all that other tech-bro Web3 grifting shit, components like ram and GPUs which were simply once seen as products for gamers and creators like me and you, components that were exclusively for us to play games like Crysis and GTA5 at high framerates (or do some quick and easy blender renders), are now being scalped and overpriced in low supply. Corporations and organizations all over the world turned the common gaming PC (or workstation PC) into pure gold which can be sold for a high price.
Every day, there's some new shortage caused by some massive new tech """"discovery"""" (just another grift waiting to burst like everything else in this bubble). AI, crypto, chips, Sora2, whatever the fuck. And businesses rush to buy GPUs, Ram, CPUs, etc in bulk from companies who abandoned their loyal gamer and creator bases, while leaving us with 400% markup scraps that might not have all the advertised ROPs, enough VRAM or even a functional power connector.
Console gamers, as crazy as it sounds, really don't have to deal with being in competition with other multi billion dollar corporations overvaluing and then buying up all their hardware. OpenAI isn't going to buy up 12000 PS5s just to use their memory. People see these as gaming machines and the people who buy them are likely gamers. No miners, no AI "art" generators, no LLM losers. This combined with subsidization, very large used markets, and connections among companies like Sony and Nintendo mean they get somewhat reasonable prices. They only have to worry about the dumbass scalpers, who are honestly a significantly less ridiculous problem because they're just average middle class dudes trying to strike it rich, instead of technocrats and tech bro trust fund babies.
I'm a PC gamer, so maybe this is just me seeing the grass as greener on the other side. But other gamers have it so easy since their platforms are not as directly affected by all this new tech-grift bullshit that's been popping up for the past 8 years.
I'm honestly tryingOh no, the horror. If stuff like this bothers you, then clearly stay as far away from PC gaming as possible.
I don't care about moddingWould I rather alt-tab once a day and play the game at 4K 120FPS with everything on max settings, plus a mod that fixes NPC faces and makes the game look quite beautiful even today, or play on console at 30FPS with low settings and low resolution? For me, the choice is pretty simple...
I'm honestly trying
I don't care about modding
I don't see difference between 30 fps and 120 fps so I always play on quality
And in quality mode difference between PC and Pro in most games is small enough to ignore in favor of comfort and convinience
So choice is pretty simple, yes
…that Steam achievements mean nothing to me.
Quality is not 1080p vs 4KIf you can't tell the difference between 30 FPS and 120 FPS, 1080p and 4K, medium and ultra settings, or modded and vanilla games... why bother with a PC at all?