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[AeonGaidenRaiden]

PS6 will be better than PS5 Pro. What price you think they will go with it? Base PS5? They will totally rearrange prices, but in no freaking way it will have the same price as base PS5.

Exactly, how can newer hardware that is supposed to be next gen be cheaper than the Pro. People think consoles will forever stay at this $400-500 mark while everything else is getting more and more expensive. PS5 Pro literally showed what the PS6 will cost at a minimum. Theres even a rumor that xbox will be closer to $1000. I dont like higher prices but at the same time I think its ridiculous to expect that same pricing for 20 years while iPhone went from $499 to $1200 today. PS4 Pro stayed the same price as the base PS4 which dropped in price while this gen the system never got a price drop, it only went up.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Exactly, how can newer hardware that is supposed ot be next gen be cheaper than the Pro. People think consoles will forever stay at this $400-500 mark while everythign else is getting more and more expensive. PS5 Pro literally showed what the PS6 will cost at a minimum. Theres even a rumor that xbox will be closer to $1000. I dont like higher prices but at the same time I think its ridiculous to expect that same pricing for 20 years while iPhone went from $499 to $1200 today.

In this world economy those things will be dead for a majority of people. I guess they could try to finance them at high interest rates or like phones.

 

[Bernardougf]

Can't wait to see how they f*ck it up.

 

[Unknown?]

Next to no competition isn't a good place to be, imo. PlayStation is at their best when they are being pushed.

Maybe that's a "good position" for stockholders and executives, but it isn't for gamers.

Next to no competition is how they started. Saturn was weak competition and N64 only did well in North America.

 

[Topher]

Next to no competition is how they started. Saturn was weak competition and N64 only did well in North America.

And then they got cocky with PS3 and 360 reignited their fire.

 

[Unknown?]

And then they got cocky with PS3 and 360 reignited their fire.

As long as they don't get super cocky and forget what makes a good gaming platform like Microsoft, but they were cocky with the PS2 also. PS3 was cocky in price but not in hardware or software. Even at the beginning they were making deals for exclusives.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

I kind of wish home some other console player will show up and be disruptive in a way, maybe it could work.

Maybe a steam cube pro around the release of the PS6, or people just get used to install steam os on a PC plugged on the TV?

 

[Topher]

As long as they don't get super cocky and forget what makes a good gaming platform like Microsoft, but they were cocky with the PS2 also. PS3 was cocky in price but not in hardware or software. Even at the beginning they were making deals for exclusives.

Yeah and getting cocky in price is one of my concerns. PS2 got cheap pretty quick and then the PS3 price skyrocketed. Now PS5 is getting more expensive and Microsoft is opting to sell a full price PC next gen from the looks of it, which gives Sony a hell of a lot of wiggle room. I don't know.....to me, Sony just doesn't have the same fire it did with the PS4. I miss it.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

As long as they don't get super cocky and forget what makes a good gaming platform like Microsoft, but they were cocky with the PS2 also. PS3 was cocky in price but not in hardware or software. Even at the beginning they were making deals for exclusives.

They are already cocky with their pricing, for the rest their platform is pretty much where it needs to be.

 

[Unknown?]

Yeah and getting cocky in price is one of my concerns. PS2 got cheap pretty quick and then the PS3 price skyrocketed. Now PS5 is getting more expensive and Microsoft is opting to sell a full price PC next gen from the looks of it, which gives Sony a hell of a lot of wiggle room. I don't know.....to me, Sony just doesn't have the same fire it did with the PS4. I miss it.

Very true, I hope they don't see $1200(magnus) and say well $800 is fine then.

It seems to me their fire is returning but this gen was largely messed up due to covid making huge delays followed up by a short 1-2 year stint in trend chasing gaas. We will see how they do next gen, although the economy is way worse than in 2020.

 

[Topher]

Very true, I hope they don't see $1200(magnus) and say well $800 is fine then.

It seems to me their fire is returning but this gen was largely messed up due to covid making huge delays followed up by a short 1-2 year stint in trend chasing gaas. We will see how they do next gen, although the economy is way worse than in 2020.

Nishino putting more emphasis on Japan gives me a little hope. If only because that's a fight Sony used to fight despite getting hammered by Nintendo. We will see

 

[SNG32]

I kind of wish home some other console player will show up and be disruptive in a way, maybe it could work.

Maybe a steam cube pro around the release of the PS6, or people just get used to install steam os on a PC plugged on the TV?

In order for that to happen it's got to have triple AAA exclusives and on some shit like the matrix demo. Which is impossible at this point.

 

[Hector Hall]

Exactly, how can newer hardware that is supposed to be next gen be cheaper than the Pro. People think consoles will forever stay at this $400-500 mark while everything else is getting more and more expensive. PS5 Pro literally showed what the PS6 will cost at a minimum. Theres even a rumor that xbox will be closer to $1000. I dont like higher prices but at the same time I think its ridiculous to expect that same pricing for 20 years while iPhone went from $499 to $1200 today. PS4 Pro stayed the same price as the base PS4 which dropped in price while this gen the system never got a price drop, it only went up.

Current consoles are manufactured at 5nm still, while PS6 will be 3nm,and probably will be disc optional but entry price will be without it.
So yes, I think the discless version will be 500/550, 620 if you want to put the add on.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Current consoles are manufactured at 5nm still, while PS6 will be 3nm,and probably will be disc optional but entry price will be without it.
So yes, I think the discless version will be 500/550, 620 if you want to put the add on.

So you like crap ports and game key discs?

 

[alabtrosMyster]

In order for that to happen it's got to have triple AAA exclusives and on some shit like the matrix demo. Which is impossible at this point.

Yup, tech is in a bind right now, they can't just 5x the number of colors on the screen, allow a few more aprites and a few parallax layers then call it a generation.

 

[nial]

Can't wait to see how they f*ck it up.

 

[Danjin44]

It's hard for me to be excited because for most part Sony stopped making the games I like.

 

[Crayon]

What PS6 can really bring to the table is being cheap. The performance arms race with xbox is over. The two competent competitors have chosen to go low-spec.

The us economy is going to be a flaming wreck when PS6 comes out. They need to make it a real shitbox, imo. Get some local ai capability so games can do some new tricks, use as little silicon as possible and use upscaling to stretch out (heh) whatever improvement in raster and raytracing they can. Fake 120fps with frame gen.

Enthusiasts will shit bricks over a low-spec machine that's stingy on ram and storage, but it's probably for the best.

Also important but probably not as much - Does the steam machine make them reconsider pc releases? Do they stop doing that and start rebuilding and exclusive catalog all over again? If im having trouble affording stuff by the time it comes out, having all their games on pc a year or two late will make it easy enough to pass on a playstation for the first time ever.

 

[Hector Hall]

So you like crap ports and game key discs?

I dont understand, phisical games will be in the disc as always. Except for MS games, those SOB really love the disc key.
And as for scrappy ports, well the main version will be the Playstation 6 one.
Then there will be the crap versions of in this growing order of crappiness to PS5, Steam Machine and 70% of PCs and Switch 2, and then there will be the PS6 version with a couple more fake frames and better IDK to be sold to high end PC users. Middle Gen there will be PS6 Pro and your version will be again the best one.

 

[RoboFu]

Face down ... ass up?

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I dont understand, phisical games will be in the disc as always. Except for MS games, those SOB really love the disc key.
And as for scrappy ports, well the main version will be the Playstation 6 one.
Then there will be the crap versions of in this growing order of crappiness to PS5, Steam Machine and 70% of PCs and Switch 2, and then there will be the PS6 version with a couple more fake frames and better IDK to be sold to high end PC users. Middle Gen there will be PS6 Pro and your version will be again the best one.

Holy crap, talk about drinking the PlayStation kool-aid! PC will always be the best place to play your games, and if you think PS is, then you are blinded by your fanboyism. Settling for PS ports doesn't make you superior to Switch 2 gamers.

 

[Hector Hall]

Holy crap, talk about drinking the PlayStation kool-aid! PC will always be the best place to play your games, and if you think PS is, then you are blinded by your fanboyism. Settling for PS ports doesn't make you superior to Switch 2 gamers.

And what this babbling has to do with what you asked ?

Resuming your post , my place will always be best place, if you don't think what I think you are a fanboy, all you are inferior to my platform even though most people in my platform play way worse and Steam Machine is weaker than a base PS5 yadda yadda sqatta sqatta.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

And what this babbling has to do with what you asked ?

Resuming your post , my place will always be best place, if you don't think what I think you are a fanboy, all you are inferior to my platform even though most people in my platform play way worse and Steam Machine is weaker than a base PS5 yadda yadda sqatta sqatta.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

I think the position Sony is next gen they will dominate because no one is going to give a single fuck about the Magnus or Steam Machine when you can get prebuilts or just build a better pc. They will be the cheaper option of the three and I think they will dominate even more nextgen and push more people to the console. No one is going to care about these stationary console/Pc. Portables are a bit different because of the portability aspect. It's been done since the early 2010s with the Alienware X51 and no one cared back then.

Sony has gone into every gen in a good position.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

They are not in a good position.

No way they can move to PS6 and expect people to pay PS5 Pro levels of fortune. Even more so without strong game appeal. People will stop at PS5 because it still a good machine. Theres alot of reasons people jump to PS5, myself included, but it was clearly not because of PS5 gen itself. It was mostly thanks to PS4.

If anything, the only thing they can sell is power and realistic bullcrap. You guys forget easy that even though no one sees them as such, Nintendo is a competitor.
The moment Sony gets full of themselves where do you think their fanbase will move to? Lol, it's just easier to move to Nintendo because at least there you are garanted to play their biggest and best exclusive games(Mario, Zelda, all garanted sucess and fun games), which is the sole reason people play Switch.
How many times Switch have proved that what moves a console is it's exclusives? The Switch hardware itself is a piece of garbage in terms of basically everything, yet it manage to dominate the charts pretty easy. They will try to make this "PS6" portable move and will fail miserably. No one will buy their portables to play bald ugly girlboss or LoU 2 Remake Whatever Edition.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I don't really see people lining up for another high-end console release like the old days... the notion of a future PS6 seems so utterly inconsequential, about like seeing a notification that some of your games got performance patches with tweaked framerates. Uh, neat.

In my view, it will be a good thing if the console space shatters into more hybrid and unusual and modestly powered device configurations like Steam Decks, Switch, competing standalone VR headsets, etc, and the traditional console fades a bit.

 

[Cakeboxer]

I don't really see people lining up for another high-end console release like the old days... the notion of a future PS6 seems so utterly inconsequential, about like seeing a notification that some of your games got performance patches with tweaked framerates. Uh, neat.

In my view, it will be a good thing if the console space shatters into more hybrid and unusual and modestly powered device configurations like Steam Decks, Switch, competing standalone VR headsets, etc, and the traditional console fades a bit.

But that's exactly what will happen. Just like PS4 and PS5 they will be sold out quickly and there will be scalping.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

But that's exactly what will happen. Just like PS4 and PS5 they will be sold out quickly and there will be scalping.

Due to artificially low supply perhaps, which seems to be the norm for every company now to get a narrative of sell-outs going (ever since the Wii? When it was national news for months about people fighting to get them when stores open; that time wasn't intentional I think but it established the pattern)

But would PS6 be a cultural event like prior major console launches? This I doubt. Until there's an actual paradigm shift in what consoles do, I feel that the changes in their numbers feel as inconsequential as seeing iPhone 17 go to iPhone 18. Just more of the same, slightly bumped effects. The extra "Pro" or Series-Whatever renditions have made this effect even worse.

 

[Hector Hall]

I don't really see people lining up for another high-end console release like the old days... the notion of a future PS6 seems so utterly inconsequential, about like seeing a notification that some of your games got performance patches with tweaked framerates. Uh, neat.

In my view, it will be a good thing if the console space shatters into more hybrid and unusual and modestly powered device configurations like Steam Decks, Switch, competing standalone VR headsets, etc, and the traditional console fades a bit.

What you see or don't see is irrelevant, PS6 when it releases will be best value in gaming and have a good price point, and will sell very strongly, PS5 is already selling very well even with all the nansayers and streaming bufoons posting videos about worst generation ever and predicting Steam Machine to take over and other funny shit, and it will be the same.

 

[Ellis]

Is this a good thing being a consumer? Sony was at their best when there was competition and they needed to cater to their audience. They're getting lazy at the moment.

Their best was during the PS1/PS2 gens, and they had absolutely zero competition. Other players existed, but they weren't competition.

 

[Three]

Sony fans are built for (console) war, apparently. Made whole by it. They are a hammer in search of a nail. There can be no peace, no rest. Sony must be the winner, even when nobody else is competing.

When there is nobody to fight, they start twitching and making these types of threads. Why the chip on the shoulder about this kind of thing?

This thread is literally the antithesis of a thread two/three weeks ago claiming sony is doomed next gen:

Thread 'Did Sony already lose next gen with PS6 before it even started?'

Oct 31, 2025

The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.

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Don't see how this is any different. If somebody makes a positive opposite thread later they're not the one twitching about a war. Especially when you're the one making this about "sony fans" and "console wars" and have the likes of Darkmage liking your post.

 

[SNG32]

What you see or don't see is irrelevant, PS6 when it releases will be best value in gaming and have a good price point, and will sell very strongly, PS5 is already selling very well even with all the nansayers and streaming bufoons posting videos about worst generation ever and predicting Steam Machine to take over and other funny shit, and it will be the same.

Isn't the PS5 still the cheapest option to console gaming since Microsoft upped the price of the Series X?

 

[NickFire]

I think PS6 is a ways off but the premise is true for both Sony and Nintendo. Neither really has competition for what they specifically offer in the gaming realm right now. They just don't and yes they still compete with each other to a degree. But they're different enough to have their own lanes.

I do share the sentiment that Sony doesn't feel like 2015 Sony anymore. Sony has been out of touch and juicing its base. Console costs are what they are, but Sony has been charging more and more just to play online, and excluding renewals from Black Friday deals on plus again (unless you upgrade). Remasters are also overpriced IMO. I personally see this as a risk long term. Can lead to bad will easily and it certainly has me interested in Magnus and Steambox (not sold yet, just interested).

And I know games keep selling. Not everything will appeal to everyone. But I've got teenage boys (one adult one younger) and none of them, nor their friends who I am also friends with, have given a damn about Sony first party in recent years. I think I'm the only one who completed Spider-Man 2. And not many appeal to me these days either, at least for day 1. The value prop just doesn't feel aligned anymore.

Anecdotal for sure. And yes I know they are turning big profits. But if they keep juicing customers while failing to turn out exclusives that guys would have waited in midnight launches for 15 years ago, they aren't exactly locking their position down. Friends lists still matter, but every big game has its own internal friends list now. And digital libraries are still a huge draw, but if no one cares much about their library because it's all annual sports, annual shooters, or cross platform F2P like Fortnite or Warzone, well switching ecosystems isn't as big of a deal anymore.

 

[SHAKEZ]

They're only in a "good" position because their only direct competitor killed itself. They've done terrible this gen in games.

 

[Astray]

Especially when you're the one making this about "sony fans" and "console wars" and have the likes of Darkmage liking your post.

I'm honestly amazed Darkmage is still around when Microsoft should have kicked him to the curb ages ago.

Imagine letting go of good devs and artists when you can just hire less astroturfers.

 

[Sephiran]

PS5 has no competition in markets like Europe where people don't care about Nintendo and Xbox.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Exactly, how can newer hardware that is supposed to be next gen be cheaper than the Pro. People think consoles will forever stay at this $400-500 mark while everything else is getting more and more expensive. PS5 Pro literally showed what the PS6 will cost at a minimum. Theres even a rumor that xbox will be closer to $1000. I dont like higher prices but at the same time I think its ridiculous to expect that same pricing for 20 years while iPhone went from $499 to $1200 today. PS4 Pro stayed the same price as the base PS4 which dropped in price while this gen the system never got a price drop, it only went up.

Easy: PS5 Pro came out in 2024 and it's a premium product made for Sony to actually make money from the hardware. They weren't selling at a loss.
PS6 is coming out 3 to 4 years after PS5 Pro and will be sold at a loss like every other console release. And by then the hardware will be better of course.

One was made to cater to their hardcore audience and the other one will be made to a more casual market, not a niche market that only some people will care for.

I don't get how people don't understand this. Some of you really want PS6 to be more expensive than the Pro and it will be hilarious once the price it out.
If by any chance PS6 is more expensive than the PS5 Pro, then i can't imagine how expensive PC components will be by that point.

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

What happens beyond PS6?

unknown market conditions due to technology and competition

 

[Hector Hall]

PS5 has no competition in markets like Europe where people don't care about Nintendo and Xbox.

Not true, Nintendo is very big in Europe.

 

[ResilientBanana]

They're always in a good position, then squander their lead. Also, expect PS5 releases for 3/4 of the PS6's life cycle

 

[DeepEnigma]

Reverse cowgirl, LFG!

 

[nial]

Remasters are also overpriced IMO.

They cost you $10 if you own the original titles.

 

[Deficit]

Oh yeah? No one is going to spend millions of dollars to make exclusive games for PC?

What are these?

Dota 2
League of Legends
Valorant
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
World of Warcraft
Rust
Path of Exile
StarCraft II
Warframe
PUBG: Battlegrounds (PC-first focus)
Apex Legends (Originally PC-focused)
Hunt: Showdown
Team Fortress 2
ARK: Survival Evolved (PC-first focus)

And lets not pretend like PlayStation exclusives are the be-all, end-all. Yes, they're great, but whos going to keep shelling out for a console when PC can play everything with mods, higher resolutions, and way better customization?

49 year old europoors like RetroGamingUK (he got a ps1 as a kid, so he must be eternally loyal)

 

[RetroGamingUK]

49 year old europoors like RetroGamingUK (he got a ps1 as a kid, so he must be eternally loyal)

You sound bitter

 

[A2una1]

Their best was during the PS1/PS2 gens, and they had absolutely zero competition. Other players existed, but they weren't competition.

I disagree. Second and Third Party where strong on PS1 and PS2. As you said, most publishers couldn't avoid PS1 and PS2 since the consoles reached a hughe install base relativly short after launch. There was competition (Dreamcast for example) but they were steamrolled by sheer PS2 numbers. PS1 also was successfull due to pirating was piss easy on that console. But first party was not that great during that era. Of course there were some occasional hits but not at that quality level of later PS3 and early PS4 era. And they had to up their game because competition was strong. At least in PS3 era, and preventing early PS3 mistakes going into PS4 era.

 

[Hector Hall]

Oh yeah? No one is going to spend millions of dollars to make exclusive games for PC?

What are these?

Dota 2
League of Legends
Valorant
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
World of Warcraft
Rust
Path of Exile
StarCraft II
Warframe
PUBG: Battlegrounds (PC-first focus)
Apex Legends (Originally PC-focused)
Hunt: Showdown
Team Fortress 2
ARK: Survival Evolved (PC-first focus)

And lets not pretend like PlayStation exclusives are the be-all, end-all. Yes, they're great, but whos going to keep shelling out for a console when PC can play everything with mods, higher resolutions, and way better customization?

A those games are for PC, yes, but for low spec PC. When people say nobody is developing specifically for PC it's for high end PCs the like of wich people brag about and the best games are console ports run at 144fps because reasons and with PT activated because it's a "huge" difference.

Evidently some genres as RTS and mouse and keyboard games can and will be developed first for PC... they just aren't AAA games that push the envelope and make a PCMR type gush about.

Most of them are on console, too, specially these last years.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Easy: PS5 Pro came out in 2024 and it's a premium product made for Sony to actually make money from the hardware. They weren't selling at a loss.
PS6 is coming out 3 to 4 years after PS5 Pro and will be sold at a loss like every other console release. And by then the hardware will be better of course.

One was made to cater to their hardcore audience and the other one will be made to a more casual market, not a niche market that only some people will care for.

I don't get how people don't understand this. Some of you really want PS6 to be more expensive than the Pro and it will be hilarious once the price it out.
If by any chance PS6 is more expensive than the PS5 Pro, then i can't imagine how expensive PC components will be by that point.

3-4 years? What are you on about, the ps6 aint coming out in 2029 lol. Its gonna be out by 2027 for sure. Also how do you not understand that PS6 has to be exponentially more powerful than this gen Pro to justify its existence. Which means new HW, more expensive components, if there is a bump in memory size, that will hike up the price too.

Do you think they will just fit in a current graphics card that will sell for cheaper 2 years later? Also everything is getting more expensive, not cheaper so not sure where you see anywhere price drops? Literally the opposite is happening.

 

[Fake]

Position of remastering TLOUSpart2 for PS6.

 

[Azelover]

In terms of competition the market is being served to Sony on a platter almost. They are gonna have a very easy time competing.

However, it's not all roses for the PS6. Sony's biggest competitor will be themselves. Now that Moore's law is almost over and we have diminishing returns creeping up, they're gonna have a hard time convincing their userbase to upgrade.

Just making the PS6 a little more powerful is not going to do it in my opinion. They must have a killer application, now more than ever. Or the risk is, their audience and publishers might stay with the PS5 for longer than desirable..

 

[Hector Hall]

In terms of competition the market is being served to Sony on a platter almost. They are gonna have a very easy time competing.

However, it's not all roses for the PS6. Sony's biggest competitor will be themselves. Now that Moore's law is almost over and we have diminishing returns creeping up, they're gonna have a hard time convincing their userbase to upgrade.

Just making the PS6 a little more powerful is not going to do it in my opinion. They must have a killer application, now more than ever. Or the risk is, their audience and publishers might stay with the PS5 for longer than desirable..

That's why Nishino spoke about multigeneration platform. They count with PS5 being around as budget entry console for years, and PS6, handheld and maybe PS6 Pro around 2031 to round the ecosystem.