Did Sony already lose next gen with PS6 before it even started?

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The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.

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The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
I'm starting to see a pattern with threads you create.
 
PS1 - "Sony is lucky Nintendo used cartridges instead of CDs. Otherwise they wouldn't have won"
PS2 - "Sony is lucky they have a DVD player, otherwise they wouldn't sell like this"
PS3 - "Sony only recovered because they had the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market"
PS4 - "Sony only won because MS fucked up with Xbox One announcement"
PS5 - "Sony is yet again succeeding because MS failed...even though MS had a console selling for 300 bucks, subscriptions that offered games for years, bought Activision and some of the biggest IPs in the market etc"

Man Sony just keeps on winning because everyone else fails and cheer luck...for 30 years. They literally never do things right! It's almost like they don't have all games releasing on their platform and their studios keep making games people like - Helldivers 2, Astrobot, Ghost of Yotei, next year with Wolverine, the Marvel fighting game, GTAVI basically a console exclusive, etc...

Sony wins because they do what matters right: The games. Marketing rights with all biggest IPs (GTA, Fortnite, Genshin, EA Sports and UEFA publicity everywhere, Battlefield, COD), they pay for timed exclusive games that sell to their core market (SH2, FFVII Rebirth etc), they pay for new IPs to be made even if they endup on other platforms (Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin etc), their subscriptions have been pumping some nice offers (i mean...if you subscribe to PS Plus Extra you get games like SH2, Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077, Hogwarts Legacy and all their library from the PS4 and some from the PS5 just like that). The only thing missing is Nintendo games...actually now that's literally it lmao.
PlayStation has been failing upwards since the PS1. But I mean that in a joke way, because your post 100% sums up the arguments I've heard a lot since PS1 as to the only reason PlayStation is successful. Wonder what the excuse for the PS6 will be, but Sony does need a humbling generation again in my opinion like the start of the PS3 gen was.
 
Lmao the Magnus PC is definitely going to kill the PS6 even though regular windows PCs haven't killed any PlayStation. Those pre 2016 Xbox games are going to be the nail in Sony's coffin.
 
Compared to traditional consoles, the Xbox PC will be big, complicated to use and expensive.

Compared to traditional pre-built gaming PCs, it will be underpowered and non-upgradable.

Are gamers on either side of the market really going to overlook all of these flaws?

As a device it makes perfect sense for MicroSoft, but not necessarily for gamers.

They made that error before with Xbox One, and it really didn't work out well for them.
 
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Compared to traditional consoles, the Xbox PC will be big, complicated to use and expensive.

Compared to traditional pre-built gaming PCs, it will be underpowered and non-upgradable.

Are gamers on either side of the market really going to overlook all of these flaws?
Thats all cool to know, where did you come across this info?
 
PlayStation has been failing upwards since the PS1. But I mean that in a joke way, because your post 100% sums up the arguments I've heard a lot since PS1 as to the only reason PlayStation is successful. Wonder what the excuse for the PS6 will be, but Sony does need a humbling generation again in my opinion like the start of the PS3 gen was.
Humbling generation when you have Nintendo charging 90 bucks for games?
The message Sony is getting might be "damn maybe 10 extra bucks should happen" at this point ahah
 
as a PC nerd, hope theres a reason for me to buy a ps6
never bought a ps5 and it feels weird

bought a ps4 pro at the end of the gen
bought a ps3 half way through the gen
...guess theyve been losing me slowly
 
Sony need to actively work against themselves in order to start loosing. PS5 is their most profitable console generation (it's at least what they've claimed) and they're doing the bare minimum of first-party game supply and marketing. They're dominating their part of the market, and the other parts of the market are either already heavily contested or dominated by other entities. I don't see Sony being able to take on Nintendo or Valve/Steam in their respective parts of the market. So their best bet is to expand into other forms of entertainment and looking into maximizing profit of their Playstation ecosystem, and they are already doing both things.

So no, they are not losing anything. They are in a pretty comfortable position, imho. PS6 can be an even lower effort than PS5 and it will fucking sell.
 
Man, every time I start being easy on you, you disappoint me with that kind of disingenuous bullshit...
That is straight up lying.
2025:
Avowed
THPS 3+4
South of Midnight
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remake
Outer Worlds 2
Grounded 2
Ninja Gaiden 4 (published)
Doom: The Dark Ages
Call of Duty: BO7
Hexen HD
Keeper
This isn't counting PS ports obviously.

Ghost of Yotei
Death Stranding 2

I don't really care if you're going easy on me or not. If you can't talk like a normal person I'll just block you. MS already has 5 titles loosely announced for 2026. Forgot Forza H 6. They're a significantly larger publisher than Sony at this point in terms of releases. About on par with Nintendo lately.
 
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The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
With so timid comptetition sony will very likely crush next gen too even if their product(hardware and software wise) will be mediocre again like ps5(120m +units range when all is said and done), if its by some luck really good we can expect og switch/ps2 numbers of units even.
 
Yeah loyalty to Xbox and Microsoft is always extremely overstated whenever they change their plans or push pr for the next big thing, but I'm supposed to believe that 10s of millions of people aren't going to buy the next PlayStation just off of reflex?
 
The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
I present to you your future

 
2025:
Avowed
THPS 3+4
South of Midnight
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remake
Outer Worlds 2
Grounded 2
Ninja Gaiden 4 (published)
Doom: The Dark Ages
Call of Duty: BO7
Hexen HD
This isn't counting PS ports obviously.

Ghost of Yotei
Death Stranding 2
Sony also released MLB The Show 25, Lost Soul Aside and Midnight Murder Club. They had even more games last year, and we know that they will have, at least, Saros, Tōkon, Marathon and Wolverine next year. Where's the 1 game per year?
BTW, Grounded 2 is an early access title that you will count again in two years, and Hexen HD is Hexen HD.
I don't really care if you're going easy on me or not. If you can't talk like a normal person I'll just block you. MS already has 5 titles loosely announced for 2026. Forgot Forza H 6.
No, it's not the first time you say shit like this and people call you out for it, only for you to follow-up with a long post addressing the way people are acting towards you for, as your own words, no reason other than console warring (which is not true).
You're a good poster, but your bias against Sony is painfully obvious.
 
Sony also released MLB The Show 25, Lost Soul Aside and Midnight Murder Club. They had even more games last year, and we know that they will have, at least, Saros, Tōkon, Marathon and Wolverine next year. Where's the 1 game per year?
BTW, Grounded 2 is an early access title that you will count again in two years, and Hexen HD is Hexen HD.

No, it's not the first time you say shit like this and people call you out for it, only for you to follow-up with a long post addressing the way people are acting towards you for, as your own words, no reason other than console warring (which is not true).
You're a good poster, but your bias against Sony is painfully obvious.
It's pretty simple. If you think I got something wrong, reply with the games like you just did. Why be an asshole and call me a liar? I wasn't lying, I just didn't think of those. It's fair to point it out. Maybe next time just skip the shitty namecalling and discuss what you want to discuss. Or don't. Your call.
 
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It's pretty simple. If you think I got something wrong, reply with the games like you just did. Why be an asshole and call me a liar? I wasn't lying, I just didn't think of those. It's fair to point it out. Maybe next time just skip the shitty namecalling and discuss what you want to discuss. Or don't. Your call.
Not you doing the same song and dance, man.
 
The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
Delusional. MS having anything isnt proof of success, you can just look at their history in the gaming space, how many trends they hopped on and failed at and how many times they changed their policies only to fail…Meanwhile Sony has won every generation bar arguably the PS3 gen…And has record profits this gen. With the potential for a handheld next gen and a traditional console, pretty sure they'll be alright…Whats funny though is the people thinking a Xbox pc being able to curcumvent the whole Playstation/PC exclusive thing, nobody is buying a £1500 Xbox to play decade old PS games anyway and even if they do they wont be supported and likely hardware locked. And at the end of the day, its just more money to Playstation with zero effort 😂
 
We don't know valves profit margin as they are private.

Sony just broke profit records and have the highest revenue in console gaming history.

But sure they lost.
PS1 - "Sony is lucky Nintendo used cartridges instead of CDs. Otherwise they wouldn't have won"
PS2 - "Sony is lucky they have a DVD player, otherwise they wouldn't sell like this"
PS3 - "Sony only recovered because they had the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market"
PS4 - "Sony only won because MS fucked up with Xbox One announcement"
PS5 - "Sony is yet again succeeding because MS failed...even though MS had a console selling for 300 bucks, subscriptions that offered games for years, bought Activision and some of the biggest IPs in the market etc"

Man Sony just keeps on winning because everyone else fails and cheer luck...for 30 years. They literally never do things right! It's almost like they don't have all games releasing on their platform and their studios keep making games people like - Helldivers 2, Astrobot, Ghost of Yotei, next year with Wolverine, the Marvel fighting game, GTAVI basically a console exclusive, etc...

Sony wins because they do what matters right: The games. Marketing rights with all biggest IPs (GTA, Fortnite, Genshin, EA Sports and UEFA publicity everywhere, Battlefield, COD), they pay for timed exclusive games that sell to their core market (SH2, FFVII Rebirth etc), they pay for new IPs to be made even if they endup on other platforms (Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin etc), their subscriptions have been pumping some nice offers (i mean...if you subscribe to PS Plus Extra you get games like SH2, Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077, Hogwarts Legacy and all their library from the PS4 and some from the PS5 just like that). The only thing missing is Nintendo games...actually now that's literally it lmao.
I didn't refer as money, but the difference of how things are going in gaming. There's no love for PS5 or Xbox Series

If money is the thing, guess what? Microsoft won even with fucking Windows 8
 
The console market isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. A standard game system is the only thing Sony has going on for themselves while their games are being released on other systems.
MS on the the other hand has a 2 for 1 game system/ PC hybrid that will play ALL you games.
Nintendo is Nintendo.
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I didn't refer as money, but the difference of how things are going in gaming. There's no love for PS5 or Xbox Series

If money is the thing, guess what? Microsoft won even with fucking Windows 8
You literally mentioned profits.

We are talking about gaming here. Not windows.
 
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