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[DrFigs]

Quite the opposite. This is one of the most efficient military operations ever.
Imagine if we could have captured Saddam, on the first day of the Gulf war? Or capturing Hitler on the 1st of September in 1939.

I don't think this ends tomorrow. How much money will go into keeping the country stable and preventing gangs from running rampant, managing a possible refugee crisis, etc. And I also don't think Maduro was a threat to the U.S. at all, hence a waste of resources to remove him to begin with. We are just constantly looking for things to bomb.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's difficult to explain the vast Venezuelan Diaspora that Chavez and Maduro's regimes created over the past decades to someone who doesn't understand it

Fully 8 million Venezuelans have fled the country during the years of their rule, which is a staggering 25% of that whole country's population. In terms of absolute numbers, it's the 2nd largest currently active refugee crisis in the world

The "Bolivarian Diaspora" hasn't just been a disaster for Venezuela, but also for the surrounding nations in Central and South America none of which had the resources or economic capacity to just absorb 8 million people showing up on their borders. There are enormous Venezuelan refugee populations in the surrounding South American nations but especially in neighboring Colombia which has almost 2 million Venezuelans. There is a large Venezuelan exile population in Florida

President Trump is a lot of things to different people but it's going to be pretty wild in a century when historians will write about him as the "Liberator of Venezuela"

 

[winjer]

I don't think this ends tomorrow. How much money will go into keeping the country stable and preventing gangs from running rampant, managing a possible refugee crisis, etc. And I also don't think Maduro was a threat to the U.S. at all, hence a waste of resources to remove him to begin with. We are just constantly looking for things to bomb.

You realize this is not the middle east. People in Venezuela are much more civilized. And although it has been a log time, they had experience with some level of democracy.
The whole population wants Maduro to be gone and they want free elections. With international support, this is within reach.

 

[Irobot82]

My crystal ball.
New government in a few months.
Will be declared safe like El Salvador.

TPS revoked for all Venezuelans. Roughly 1 million people deported.
Venezuela will accept all deportees who have to go to a "third country".

 

[SuperC]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

 

[Sonik]

In both cases, the results were double checked and confirmed to be correct.

One was decided in courts in a pretty shady way and the other was suppressed through lawfare and a false flag operation disguised as the "insurrection in the Capitol", I wouldn't call that double checking but you do you. Anyway, don't want to derail the thread so I'll leave it at that

 

[Mohonky]

Anyone got some cliff notes; haven't really kept up with what's happening in this part of the world.

 

[LordCBH]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

 

[winjer]

One was decided in courts in a pretty shady way and the other was suppressed through lawfare and a false flag operation disguised as the "insurrection in the Capitol", I wouldn't call that double checking but you do you. Anyway, don't want to derail the thread so I'll leave it at that

Both were recounted. Both went to courts and confirmed.
Very different from what Maduro has done with elections in Venezuela.

 

[Madonis]

One was decided in courts in a pretty shady way and the other was suppressed through lawfare and a false flag operation disguised as the "insurrection in the Capitol", I wouldn't call that double checking but you do you. Anyway, don't want to derail the thread so I'll leave it at that

There was no "false flag operation" at all. But whatever, you guys want to have it both ways when it comes to January 6. Shame.

Anyway, sucks to be Maduro right now. Not sure if it will turn out to be a good thing for Venezuela in the very short term, but I hope it opens the door to change in the medium term at least.

 

[RJMacready73]

President Trump is a lot of things to different people but it's going to be pretty wild in a century when historians will write about him as the "Liberator of Venezuela"

Let's see how badly the Trump family and friends rape the country first before instilling titles

 

[deriks]

If the new president doesn't sell Venezuelan oil for scraps to the US this war will continue. It has nothing to do with cartels and anyone with half a brain knows that

"For scraps" maybe is not the word, but I get your point, and everyone knows that. Maduro seems a bigger problem now thou

There are some doubts.


Aren't they friends? That's the impression I got during the meeting in Alaska.


Do they hate Maduro, though? A lot of such people often brainwashed by propaganda and could claim that all their problems are the US's fault.

It's more tired of him than hate. Like I said, Maduro gave a lot of jobs, so a lot of people has a thing. But imagine a world when you win a good amount of money and can't buy cheese because the store only could got 10 pieces? That's them for at least 20 years

A change needs to exist. If will do worse than before no one knows, but he never wanted any change, so taking him away was the first step of this change

 

[EviLore]

Anyone got some cliff notes; haven't really kept up with what's happening in this part of the world.

Tyrant black bagged by Delta Force at home in bed in the capital city, zero American casualties, sent to New York to stand trial.

The mausoleum of Hugo Chavez destroyed for good measure.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[winjer]

Tyrant black bagged by Delta Force at home in bed in the capital city, zero American casualties, sent to New York to stand trial.

The mausoleum of Hugo Chavez destroyed for good measure.

I'm surprised those helis were capable of taking off, when the people inside have such massive balls.

 

[Sybrix]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

Ooooo that red white and blue!

 

[thefool]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

Pack it up propagandist bozo

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Both were recounted. Both went to courts and confirmed.
Very different from what Maduro has done with elections in Venezuela.

Today's reminder of which nations do and do not recognize Maduro as the President of Venezuela as of the disputed election in 2024

International reactions to the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Unknown?]

Sonik you're a bozo and a propagandist.

He lost the election, even with a massive refugee crisis.

Resultados Elecciones Presidenciales: NACIONAL

Resultados (Auditoría/Actualización - 5 de Agosto, 07:00pm Caracas): Edmundo González 7.443.584, Nicolás Maduro 3.385.155, otros 273.063

resultadosconvzla.com

Relax bro, I don't think he's a propagandist, I think he just detests US intervention.

It will be interesting if leftwing media will claim Maduro won with no evidence of anomalies like the US 2020 election.

 

[DrFigs]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

The polling on this showed that most Americans were against military action in Venezuela, including a majority of republicans. Unfortunately the previous polling means jack shit because half of this country has zero integrity and will change their beliefs on a dime to support whatever Trump does.

63 percent oppose US military action in Venezuela: Survey

A majority of Americans say they oppose the United States taking military action against Venezuela as the Trump administration escalates its campaign against the country’s president, Nicolás&…

thehill.com

Edit: I did misremember: Americans overwhelmingly were against it, but republican support for military intervention in Venezuela was actually at 52%. So slight support for it. My point still stands that the next round of polls will show higher support for it.

 

[Sybrix]

Whether you agree with this or not, everyone has to respect the United States military, the skill, planning, prescision of co-ordinating and carrying out this op is mind blowing.

 

[Insane Metal]

 

[GudOlRub]

No pity at all for Maduro, fucker deserves everything he's got coming.
Still wild to me that Congress has basically relinquished all their power to Trump's will though.

I truly hope life improves for Venezuelans but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen...

 

[calico]

The polling on this showed that most Americans were against military action in Venezuela, including a majority of republicans. Unfortunately the previous polling means jack shit because half of this country has zero integrity and will change their beliefs on a dime to support whatever Trump does.

What did the poll on capturing Maduro with zero US casualties say?

 

[Gonzito]

Retardera having a meltdown

 

[Unknown?]

No pity at all for Maduro, fucker deserves everything he's got coming.
Still wild to me that Congress has basically relinquished all their power to Trump's will though.

I truly hope life improves for Venezuelans but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen...

Congress has relinquished power like this for decades, long before Trump.

Retardera having a meltdown

They're celebrating because socialism kills and impoverishes. That's why Florida never turned fully liberal from New Yorkers retiring because it was full of freedom loving refugees who fled those regimes.

 

[DrFigs]

What did the poll on capturing Maduro with zero US casualties say?

Alas they also didn't poll whether doing it on a Saturday would be better or worse.

 

[poppabk]

Whether you agree with this or not, everyone has to respect the United States military, the skill, planning, prescision of co-ordinating and carrying out this op is mind blowing.

Yeah it reminds me of this but on much larger scale:

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The next President of Chile for those who aren't aware

 

[winjer]

I want to understand what the Americans feeling is? I mean what do they feel like when they belong to the most bastard, corrupt, destructive, bloodthirsty entity on the face of the earth

So many flavors to choose from, yet you decided to be salty.

 

[Tams]

Trump just does things.

'le InTeRnAtiOnAl LaW' brigade are in shambles.

 

[LordCBH]

Retardera having a meltdown

PedoEra loves bread lines and mass oppression, so this tracks.

 

[Hypereides]

I'm really not too thrilled about this, given it opens up a legitimate precedent for "other" countries to perform a genuine invasive attack on smaller nations.

Make no mistake, Venezuela's governance was definitely dysfunctional with many issues, including dictatorship. But, its important to acknowledge sovereignty and international borders despite that.

This just gives some nation actors a convenient excuse.

 

[Hugare]

I fear how China will react to this news

This is my main worry

And lets be real: this is not about "liberating" Venezuela. Maduro can go suck a fat one, but Truml isn't trying to br a nice guy here.

This is a Russia/Ukraine situation, its just that Madura was a dictator, Zelensky wasn't.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

You'd think he'd have some sort of Presidentail guard/force defending him 24/7?

Give them sone slack. It was New Year.

 

[LordCBH]

I fear how China will react to this news

This is my main worry

They will react the same way they react to everything: by threatening Taiwan and doing "military exercises" around it. And probably open some more labor camps in China.

It's more important now than ever that we have taiwans back.

 

[winjer]

 

[darrylgorn]

I can't speak to the legitimacy of this move as I know fuck all about Venezuela but this will be viewed as widely unpopular by the general public and will detract from Trump's support.

It's a pretty unwise political move if that admin wants to remain in power.

 

[Brazen]

What did the poll on capturing Maduro with zero US casualties say?

If he cured cancer the TDSers would just sit there and complain/argue cancer centers will now be going out of business.
Better to keep justifying their billionaire-funded media smears than to look inward.

 

[Tams]

I fear how China will react to this news

This is my main worry

Considering a Chinese delegation were in Caracas at the time and had just met Maduro yesterday...

They've been told to BTFO or FAFO.

I don't know how intentional this was of Trump, but he's hit many birds with one stone.

 

[LordCBH]

They will react the same way they react to everything: by threatening Taiwan and doing "military exercises" around it. And probably open some more labor camps in China.

It's more important now than ever that we have taiwans back.

I must apologize. I used the incorrect country name here. I should've said West Taiwan instead of China.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[Mohonky]

Tyrant black bagged by Delta Force at home in bed in the capital city, zero American casualties, sent to New York to stand trial.

The mausoleum of Hugo Chavez destroyed for good measure.

Yeh sorry I got that part. Its the preceding events.

Dictators in South America not exactly a new or rare thing just wondering what was special about this one or what was happening politically that lead up to this event.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

It's the cunts who come after. It'd be horrendous to go from commie/cartel bastards to being plundered by neolibs and multinationals.

 

[AJUMP23]

This op was so clean it would be too boring for a Call of Duty mission.

How do you fly a helicopter and not wake someone up.

We have some amazing equipment.

 

[Hugare]

Let's be real: if "liberation" was the true intention here, Trump would do the same with North Korea.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

It's only 3 days into 2026 ffs.

 

[LordCBH]

They don't want you to know this. But Latin American despots are free. You can just take them.

 

[Gonzito]

Me waiting for GTA6

 

[popeutlal]

So the congress has given the power of free-for-all to Trump now?