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GermanZepp said:
Oh they *seem* happy, I didn't know that 😅 . That solves everything. Usa delivered happiness thru attack choppers and obviously give a shit about venezuelas people.

Look man. Maduro was a 3rd world caricature if a dictator, no argument. More than 8 million people exile from their country.

imo is venezuelas peoples business to kick the bullshit out of power, even if take 50 years. Retarded population has to learn. Explicit outside intervention establish a fucking rot presedent.
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Ahh a massacre, my prefered method of a coup
 
Ass of Can Whooping said:
Ahh a massacre, my prefered method of a coup
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Dibs on the pitchfork

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LordCBH said:
Funny, because the Russians aren't driving through European Christmas markets and burning down European churches. Or I guess you're happy that the number one name in most of these countries will soon be Mohammed.
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Yep. Europe should remove migrants* AND at the same time strengthen its military to have deterrent against crazy fucker from Kremlin.

* - won't happen when leftist retards rule so many Western European countries.

Ass of Can Whooping said:
Ahh a massacre, my prefered method of a coup
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I think cannibalism works the best:

 
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Topher said:
Yep. I mean...the guy talks out of his ass regularly. That's just normal speech for him. Amazed folks still can't see it.
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Never underestimate general public stupidity.

Even working in offices, you'd think the average person sitting at a desk making $100k + bonus should be "kind of smart". I swear half of them are just as stupid. And it always amazes me how these people could even score their job. They must have some really lax hiring bosses or they were just really good in the interviews.
 
Bojji said:
Yep. Europe should remove migrants* AND at the same time strengthen its military to have deterrent against crazy fucker from Kremlin.

* - won't happen when leftist retards rule so many Western European countries.



I think cannibalism works the best:

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Definitely not disagreeing the Russians are a problem. But, Russia doesn't have to lift a finger while Europe is so happy to import the very people who want Europe dead lol
 
GudOlRub said:
Yeah no thanks, there are many forms of socialism, this is pure semantic silliness.
All I'm saying is, if you think socialism is a problem in the west then you'll have to erase literal millions of people who are for some forms of it. Myself included.
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There are different flavors of everything, but that doesn't change the fundamentals. When you change the core values of something it becomes something different.

This seems like a cop out. Erase millions of people? Wut. That's like saying you erased millions of people who are for free markets because you thought free markets are a problem.
 
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LordCBH said:
Funny, because the Russians aren't driving through European Christmas markets and burning down European churches. Or I guess you're happy that the number one name in most of these countries will soon be Mohammed.
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While Russia should not be handled with kid gloves, and this event sends a message to them as well, globalists hypnotize their base by constantly pointing at them as the boogie man while letting the caliphate barbarians in the backdoor through the unlocked gates. Even down to making us all pay for the housing and benefits of those military-aged insurgents.
 
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Wonder what action against Mexico will happen next, then Panama, followed by Greenland. Cuba?

This is a escalation of things, no matter what people here think, Trump kept his word here..



 
Escape Goat said:
Rebranding the Department of Defense as the Department of War is making sense.
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DoD was the original rebrand. It was originally Department of War.

But you know, people are persuaded by words so easily and selectively blind to actions. Something they figured out long ago.
 
DeepEnigma said:
DoD was the original rebrand. It was originally Department of War.

But you know, people are persuaded by words so easily and selectively blind to actions. Something they figured out long ago.
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Had to check this out to learn of its history. Yup. It was rebranded DoD after WWII.

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United States Department of Defense - Wikipedia

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By the National Security Act of 1947, the Department of the Navy and the Department of War[8] had a new single Secretary imposed over the top of their two previously independent Cabinet secretaries. The War Department also changed its name to the Department of the Army and split off the Department of the Air Force. The new Cabinet-level department was initially designated the National Military Establishment (NME). In 1949, the NME was renamed the Department of Defense. The renaming is alleged to be due to the NME's pronunciation as "enemy".[9]

On September 5, 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order authorizing "Department of War" and "secretary of war" as secondary titles to the main titles of "Department of Defense" and "secretary of defense." The terms must be accommodated by federal agencies and are permitted in executive branch communications, ceremonial settings, and non-statutory documents. However, only an act of Congress can legally and formally change the department's name and secretary's title, so "Department of Defense" and "secretary of defense" remain legally official.[10][11] Trump described his rebranding as an effort to project a stronger and more bellicose name and said the "defense" names were "woke".[12]
 
All this BS about rebuilding Venezuela? I'll believe it when It see it. That idea is counter to a century of our dealings with South America. No one has acted in their interests. They have ever been brutalized and had their goods extracted by left and right extremists for foreign superpowers flipping back and forth. Are we going to do differently now? Help them rule and benefit and build themselves unto their good? Nothing Trump is saying makes it sound like it. My confidence in Venezuela becoming another South Korea is like 0.2%.
 


Things I learned from this: taunting the world's most powerful nation, who also happens to be a neighbour and has a carrier group parked to the north, is probably not going to end well for me.
 
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It's about sending a message. Nations like Russia, Iran or North Korea only understand one language, and that's not spoken by "international law". We can debate over how convenient or inconvenient this coup is, but undoubtedly it delivers the only kind of message that adversaries respect.

I wish the world weren't like the wild west but unfortunately it very much is. I hope globalist organizations come next in the chopping block.
 
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Dice said:
All this BS about rebuilding Venezuela? I'll believe it when It see it. That idea is counter to a century of our dealings with South America. No one has acted in their interests. They have ever been brutalized and had their goods extracted by left and right extremists for foreign superpowers flipping back and forth. Are we going to do differently now? Help them rule and benefit and build themselves unto their good? Nothing Trump is saying makes it sound like it. My confidence in Venezuela becoming another South Korea is like 0.2%.
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It's not about VZ, it's about the oil again. Just like the "WMD's".

The interesting thing is that VZ oil is pretty bad stuff, even if they have alot of it, it is soupy and sour, ie, alot of sulphur and heavy metals. It is not cheap or easy to refine, but guess what country built refineries to be able to do so? :P But it is still not cost effective at current prices on the international market. Very few international refineries can process the crude from VZ.

It's going to be another disaster, cartels will probarly run the country within 5 years, unless we see other boots on the ground.
 
Just a couple observations:

- For something that sounds as big and official and scary as INTERNATIONAL LAW, it sure does seem like you can just totally ignore it without consequence, doesn't it?
- Rubio is a solid hype man.
 
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Angry_Megalodon said:
It's about sending a message. Nations like Russia, Iran or North Korea only understand one language, and that's not spoken by "international law". We can debate over how convenient or inconvenient this coup is, but undoubtedly it delivers the only kind of message that adversaries respect.

I wish the world weren't like the wild west but unfortunately it very much is. I hope globalist organizations come next in the chopping block.
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None of those nations care about this "message", they will just use it to justify their next steps towards expansionism. :\
 
The liberals playing the white knight game while real Venezuelans are celebrating is sooo typical.


Reddit is hilarious, they are actively suppressing real news about this as expected.
 
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TheAtomicPile said:
- For something that sounds as big and official and scary as INTERNATIONAL LAW, it sure does seem like you can just totally ignore it without consequence, doesn't it?
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International law is just an agreement between the strongest nations. In the first place it was created between USSR and USA really where they just agreed how the "great game" will be played during the cold war.

Even safe sea travel is an illusion maintained due to powerful navy of strong countries.
 
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None of those nations care about this "message", they will just use it to justify their next steps towards expansionism. :\
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They don't need any justification. They do as they will. Or better said, as they are allowed to do. Being passive and afraid of "international law" enboldens the enemies of the West. Though I don't buy any of the bullshit spouted by american offcials, I understand the endgame here. You can't negotiate "peace" with Putin if you don't flex your muscles. Other cultures laugh at our cowardice and "manners" which they (rightfully so) perceive as weak. The world is right now in a tight spot and we can't afford weakness any longer.
 
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EviLore said:
They were disarmed and the government murders them when they try to peacefully protest. Easier said than done.
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C'mon boss, with all do respect, you know ain't right to fly over a country blow some shit up and kidnap the 'president' and his wife. Even if it is 100% deserved because is a dictator. Granted, Maduro and Chaves were absolutely totalitarian people was suffering, but some people were supporting the regime too. Why usa has to be the police man and the judge of the world? 'Be democratic the way WE want or else.. '

Internal processes must happen. USA don't give a shit about Venezuelas people. They don't do it for the people. Please look for another argument. Eeuu was always involved in Latin America supporting, financing.. putting the devils tail into dark business. We in the south saw all kind despicable things Americans do for 'the greater good'. Please..

I"m a centrist I'm glad that asshole was taken down too. But I don't think this is the way. Just my two cents.
 
I don't know what to make of this, but the fact that they managed to extract Maduro is pretty darn impressive, without the whole thing going sideways. No US army personnel were lost, and about 40 people lost in Venezuela (mix of civilians and military).
I can't imagine the Venezuelan military will just let US come in and take over, plus separatist forces and other groups will undoubtedly resist this.
Maduro seemed corrupt as hell and plunged the country into chaos, but that doesn't mean the people want US to come in and control everything. In fact Venezuelan leadership is already contradicting the US administration.
"Let's not give up our country to the US" is a strong message for all Venezuelans to get behind, regardless of who they support internally. Any leader who tries to play nice with US will likely be labeled a traitor and replaced.
Which makes you wonder what was this all for? Can't have been for drugs as US just pardoned the ex-president of Honduras, notoriously known for drug trafficking.
Most likely it's a mix of wanting the oil and this being a good distraction from the files, but I just don't see how the Venezuelan leadership, military, and populace will roll over and let "US control things".
Will Americans support boots on the ground? What happened to wanting the Nobel peace prize?
 
TheAtomicPile said:
Just a couple observations:

- For something that sounds as big and official and scary as INTERNATIONAL LAW, it sure does seem like you can just totally ignore it without consequence, doesn't it?
- Rubio is a solid hype man.
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As I mentioned a few pages back, the permanent UN Security Council members (P5) don't really give a toss about international law if it's against their national interest.
 
GermanZepp said:
C'mon boss, with all do respect, you know ain't right to fly over a country blow some shit up and kidnap the 'president' and his wife. Even if it is 100% deserved because is a dictator. Granted, Maduro and Chaves were absolutely totalitarian people was suffering, but some people were supporting the regime too. Why usa has to be the police man and the judge of the world? 'Be democratic the way WE want or else.. '

Internal processes must happen. USA don't give a shit about Venezuelas people. They don't do it for the people. Please look for another argument. Eeuu was always involved in Latin America supporting, financing.. putting the devils tail into dark business. We in the south saw all kind despicable things Americans do for 'the greater good'. Please..

I"m a centrist I'm glad that asshole was taken down too. But I don't think this is the way. Just my two cents.
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Again, the reason doesn't matter. Do you see any venezuelans complaining on twitter about how Trump only did it because of the oil?

If anything they are glad they had something in their country that grabbed the interest of the US enough so that they felt compelled to do what they did. You are trying to apply 1st world logic to a 3rd world country and it just doesn't fucking work. If you think the US government is corrupt, you haven't scraped the surface of how bad it can get in other countries. Believe it or not, your institutions - with all their problems, are more solid than 99,9% of other countries'.
 
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The white liberals are not "clueless". I'm so sick of this argument. They ALWAYS align with dictators, islamists and terrorists. That should give you a hint. They are consistent in supporting the most evil scum of the Earth.
 
Hot5pur said:
I don't know what to make of this, but the fact that they managed to extract Maduro is pretty darn impressive, without the whole thing going sideways. No US army personnel were lost, and about 40 people lost in Venezuela (mix of civilians and military).
I can't imagine the Venezuelan military will just let US come in and take over, plus separatist forces and other groups will undoubtedly resist this.
Maduro seemed corrupt as hell and plunged the country into chaos, but that doesn't mean the people want US to come in and control everything. In fact Venezuelan leadership is already contradicting the US administration.
"Let's not give up our country to the US" is a strong message for all Venezuelans to get behind, regardless of who they support internally. Any leader who tries to play nice with US will likely be labeled a traitor and replaced.
Which makes you wonder what was this all for? Can't have been for drugs as US just pardoned the ex-president of Honduras, notoriously known for drug trafficking.
Most likely it's a mix of wanting the oil and this being a good distraction from the files, but I just don't see how the Venezuelan leadership, military, and populace will roll over and let "US control things".
Will Americans support boots on the ground? What happened to wanting the Nobel peace prize?
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Who knows what the layout was but I find it amazing Maduro and his wife couldnt get behind that steel door that was brought up. Either it was far away from where they were and couldnt run to it in time, or the US attack was so fast they didnt even know what hit them.
 
E-Cat said:
Just like Russia's war of aggression on Ukraine, this "might makes right" blatant violation of international law sets a very dangerous precedent for future world order & conflicts.

What possible leg does the US have to stand on when China invades Taiwan? We are devolving...

And who tf is "they"? Don't speak about me as if I'm part of some ideological block, I thought that's how the leftists viewed the world.
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Oh look, another believer in 'Le InTErNAtiOnAl LaW'.

Any law is useless unless it is enforced.

Also, this 'International Law' you believe has really fixed Venezuela, China, Russia, Iran, Rwanda, the DRC... oh...
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
The white liberals are not "clueless". I'm so sick of this argument. They ALWAYS align with dictators, islamists and terrorists. That should give you a hint. They are consistent in supporting the most evil scum of the Earth.
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It's actually a pretty easy formula.

They will always take the side of whichever person or group is more down and out. Even a criminal, they prefer lax justice. Any gov or company or people who are doing well are always the evil side.

Amazingly, when a cruel dictator robbing its people and economy leads to millions of poor people, they actually take the side of the dictator dude who has become an oppressive billionaire himself.

Sounds counterintuitive, but they need to do that because if they side with the people it means they agree with western govs hating that dictator. So their ideology looks bad as an egg on their face since western govs will focus their message on taking down that dictator and not their people who need help. So there is a pecking order.
 
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Liljagare said:
nm. No point.
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I saw your message. Maduro lost the last election by something like 70 to 30. Of course he has supporters - and for the most part they are probably people who one way or another stood to benefit from the regime - friends of the king. The guy was a druglord and you can bet your ass some people made a lot of money out of it. Just not the majority of the good and honest people in the country.

Other famous dictators also had support. Do you mean to say everyone should've just stayed put and done nothing instead of attacking while they terrorized their people? Because it would hurt some people's feelings even though attacking was CLEARLY the right choice?

I swear I don't get this mentality. You see someone weaker getting bullied and you step in to help the person and put the bully in their place. No shit the bully and whoever was siding with him is not gonna fucking like it. They lost their plaything.
 
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