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[MayauMiao]

If Trump discovers the cure for cancer they will call him out for going against mother nature.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This will be a movie 100%.

The movie will last longer than the entire op

 

[winjer]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Had to bring this to this thread

 

[digimaster7]

Infinity Ward, you guys know what to do

 

[analog_future]

grifters be grifting

 

[Tajaz2426]

Had to bring this to this thread

Jesus man, I come back from my morning run and workout to start the wife's coffee for work and I see this. I woke my granddaughter up laughing so hard, then laughing because the more I held it in, I started the piglet oinks. She already thinks I'm a giant dork.

Thanks. Touché, good sir.

 

[EviLore]

Dude's shaking, voice going falsetto, sounds like he's starting to cry. Not a good day for Chinese interests.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

grifters be grifting

Many such cases.

 

[Diddy X]

For the greater good ✝

 

[Warspite]

grifters be grifting

Unfortunately both sides have them, its things like this that shows peoples true colours, its easy to shout and scream when things don't effect you but when you need to put your money where your mouth is, all of a sudden people on both sides of the isle quickly change their tune.

 

[EN250]

All jokes aside, now that Maduro's gone, if the new guard just carry on business as usual, what happens then? Another operation?

Didn't they imply that already? First attack was surgical, next one US won't give a damn about collateral and destroy them, Delcy Rodriguez is backpedaling already, talking about cooperation and such, they are scared to death, Diosdado Cabello probably hiding because he knows there's no place on Earth for him to hide anymore

There's going to be a forced transition till the next and real elections without any fraud involved, as much as people want Maria Corina Machado to lead the country, she wasn't elected and even if civilians love her, she couldn't win the military to her side, this will take years and a need to purge all members of the forces that still side with the ex-dictator

 

[calico]

Tenuous to conflate actions like Absolute Resolve, Midnight Hammer and drone striking Soleimani, with Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam etc. imo.

 

[methane47]

If Trump discovers the cure for cancer they will call him out for going against mother nature.
[snip]

Two things can be true at the same time.

Maduro can be a horrible dictator who the world would be better without
It is wrong to go depose a leader from another country for "reasons"

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Many such cases.

Too many people have Iraq War flashbacks. People hsve to understand that those 20 years were by design.

 

[calico]

Two things can be true at the same time.

Maduro can be a horrible dictator who the world would be better without
It is wrong to go depose a leader from another country for "reasons"

The clear implication of the Freeman 2024 post is that 'the world' had an obligation to remove Maduro from power, not just to acknowledge his horribleness.

 

[Signalis]

This will be a movie 100%.

Netflix is all ready working on a movie of the US soldiers that caputred Maduro

 

[Madonis]

Neither of these is a good idea, but whatever...I'd believe it. Trump really is that petty and whimsical that he'd dislike someone for accepting a prize that he believes belongs to him.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Netflix is all ready working on a movie of the US soldiers that caputred Maduro

Not fat enough.

 

[Baemono]

Neither of these is a good idea, but whatever...I'd believe it. Trump really is that petty and whimsical that he'd dislike someone for accepting a prize that he believes belongs to him.

I mean if Machado wants to become president, she has to win elections, but the reason is pretty funny (and petty)

 

[Madonis]

I mean if Machado wants to become president, she has to win elections, but the reason is pretty funny (and petty)

Of course, since Trump's just blurting it all out in public, after all the praise she has showered on him, which is indeed almost unreal.

 

[Baemono]

is indeed almost unreal.

I mean we're going head first in WW3 just because some old rich dudes are bored and the whole shit seems unreal.

 

[RJMacready73]

Removing Maduro for "reasons" is a: good and b: bad, good for the world having one less dictator especially for Venezuelans and also bad for the world setting the precedent that stronger nations can simply roll into other countries as and when it suits them, yeah I'm all for removing evil bastards from power but it's basically a greenlight for China to take Taiwan as and when it suits them and well Russia was always gonna do Russia but we don't know what other country is now eyeing up it's neighbours under the assumption that well if America can do it why can't we...

It'd be nice if the world could take a fucking breather for once

 

[thefool]

Propagandists can't even do the most basic fact checking. Why would Machado have any claim to the presidency?
They also cry over Trump's involvement but want him to hand pick the president. Asinine and contradictory, as usual. But what can you expect from the Tennessee Holler and whatever random gibberish they post

 

[RJMacready73]

I mean we're going head first in WW3 just because some old rich dudes are bored and the whole shit seems unreal.

I don't think we're going anywhere near WW3 thats just propaganda being spread by Russians to alienate Ukraine from the West, what we are heading head first into is instability

 

[RJMacready73]

I mean if Machado wants to become president, she has to win elections, but the reason is pretty funny (and petty)

Why's anyone even talking about installing Trump puppets!? Was there not already elections held in Venezuela a year ago where a party won clear majority and Maduro just wouldn't honour it, so surely there's a government in waiting ready to step up?

 

[EN250]

Neither of these is a good idea, but whatever...I'd believe it. Trump really is that petty and whimsical that he'd dislike someone for accepting a prize that he believes belongs to him.

She didn't run for the position in the first place, why would anyone let her become president because she won the Nobel Peace? WTF I'm reading, lmao

Edit:

Elections were rigged, González Urrutia won, "military" sort of was helping with the records but you don't know if they were really helping or were just helping Maduro get real data so he could manipulate the elections without being so damn obvious...

No one is taking away what Maria Corina Machado did for her Country, but that doesn't just make her defacto ruler of a Country that's crying for democray to be established again after years

 

[MayauMiao]

Two things can be true at the same time.

Maduro can be a horrible dictator who the world would be better without
It is wrong to go depose a leader from another country for "reasons"

I mean, can't you guys make up your mind?

 

[Madonis]

Propagandists can't even do the most basic fact checking. Why would Machado have any claim to the presidency?
They also cry over Trump's involvement but want him to hand pick the president. Asinine and contradictory, as usual. But what can you expect from the Tennessee Holler and whatever random gibberish they post

She doesn't have an inherent claim to the presidency, not directly, but she's still one of the more prominent figures in the Venezuelan opposition and you'd think Trump would respect that.

Then again, since the current plan is to let the same old guys (the regime) continue to run Venezuela except without Maduro, that wouldn't necessarily be a boon to the Venezuelan opposition either.

Which is why, despite the deserved celebrations of the past couple of days, you're starting to see a little more skepticism from Venezuelans (not white U.S. liberals) after Trump's recent declarations.

She didn't run for the position in the first place, why would anyone let her become president because she won the Nobel Peace? WTF I'm reading, lmao

Correction: she wasn't allowed to run for president, but her ally Edmundo Gonzalez did. Both the U.S. and the opposition have previously claimed that he won the 2024 elections. So technically there's that.

Again, you'd think the U.S. government would be more diplomatic towards her and at least leave open the possibility of supporting or endorsing Machado in a transition process. Instead, he's basically pushing her aside.

Edit:

Elections were rigged, González Urrutia won, "military" sort of was helping with the records but you don't know if they were really helping or were just helping Maduro get real data so he could manipulate the elections without being so damn obvious...

No one is taking away what Maria Corina Machado did for her Country, but that doesn't just make her defacto ruler of a Country that's crying for democray to be established again after years

We're in agreement about that first point.

Regarding the second, it's a matter of tact. Trump's words are, frankly, more than a bit embarrassing for her. Rather than saying "I like Machado and think she could play a role in the future", he dropped her like a rock.

 

[Loope]

I will say this.
Trump did to Maduro what Putin wished he did to Zelenski.
Well done, Orange man

Except they're not the same at all. Ukraine was ready and prepared for war, they antecipated it since Putin had an history of that. Here US went there, grabbed the retarded, bombed a mausoleum and some other shit and got back.

Ah they also killed some rambo dude shooting at an helicopter.

As much as i dislike Trump and his MAGA entourage, they did a good job removing a piece of shit from a government.

 

[jason10mm]

The most critical element of world peace is stable, honest and accountable government. Ones that can be cleanly elected out of office for a stable transition of power. Ones that don't spread hate and constantly blame their neighbors, minority groups or fifth columnists for their own corruption and mismanagement. Increasingly rare and under attack these days with everyone wanting to fight fire with fire.

There is no world government" though. The real reason why we have had (relative) world peace since WW2 is that the US and the USSR carved up the globe and restricted their fights to backwaters. Europe was straight wiped out. China was decimated.

Then the USSR collapsed and the US was allowed to run the planet, they then (foolishly?) allowed China to rise up as the major manufacturing center. Europe may or may not have recovered, but now they just took a cyanide suicide pill in the form of massive culturally unaligned immigration.

So now the US is exhausted, China is becoming dominate, and as soon as it can be demonstrated that a Carrier Battle Group is vulnerable to a drone swarm/cyber attack it will all be over for the US's ability to project power and there will be a new scrabble for territory.

 

[near]

Sorry, I have to share this:

 

[Forsete]

When will Greenland be liberated?

 

[EN250]

Correction: she wasn't allowed to run for president, but her ally Edmundo Gonzalez did. Both the U.S. and the opposition have previously claimed that he won the 2024 elections. So technically there's that.

Again, you'd think the U.S. government would be more diplomatic towards her and at least leave open the possibility of supporting or endorsing Machado in a transition process. Instead, he's basically pushing her aside.

She has no allies in the armed forces to protect her and sending Urrutia to assume charge would lead to a coup in a matter of months if not days, he'd be a sheep surrounded by wolves, all the higher ups in the armed forces respond to Diosdado Cabello

That's why there's going to be a transition, with a new election, the regime will have to fold, by that time part of armed forces and part of the judicial system that today are still pro regime, can be purged or convert

 

[Brazen]

She doesn't have an inherent claim to the presidency, not directly, but she's still one of the more prominent figures in the Venezuelan opposition and you'd think Trump would respect that.

Then again, since the plan is currently to let the same old guys continue to run Venezuela except without Maduro, that wouldn't necessarily be a boon to the Venezuelan opposition either.

Which is why, despite the deserved celebrations of the past couple of days, you're starting to see a little more skepticism from Venezuelans (not white U.S. liberals) after Trump's recent declarations.

There is no "let" in Venezuela when it comes to who is running it. Not when the Venezuela military is the cartel. It is might proves right down there unfortunately and it will be up the citizens to change the fundamentals/group of who controls them.

Several things can be true at once. The US has no interest in changing power down there, they just want that power to stop cooperation with China/Russia and focus with cooperating with the US. Having the navy at the doorstep insures that through fear/show of strength... or more us operations can/will happen. If the current regime doesn't produce results then drone strikes/etc will change minds down there and Russia/China doesn't seem to be willing to get involved.

This whole operation was about the drugs ironically, just not in the way people think. It is the export of drugs that is funding the current regime in Venezuela to stay in power. Cutting off their drug exports/blowing it up will weaken their influence and that's the reason those boats/depots are a priority.

Drone striking Iran's important personal has led to a weaker Iran today and their capital is in flames and their terrorist regime is in hiding. The Venezuela cartel will remain in power for now, but they will be weaker in time with US intervention. That is more likely to lead to opportunity for the Venezuelans then doing nothing and letting it remain a vassal country of our adversaries.

 

[jason10mm]

Get your real estate investment plans ready. Especially those with connections in Florida.

Hooray, now we can invade and occupy some places that look like THIS

instead of like this:

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

When will Greenland be liberated?

Wonder what the excuse will be if the USA invades Greenland lmao.

 

[Jakk]

My timeline has been loaded with posts like this. Venezuelans, Cubans, and sooo many other Latin Americans in general more or less telling Leftists to go fuck themselves. Videos of Latin Americans confronting pro-Maduro protesters in various countries. Nearly all of whom are clearly not Venezuelan themselves and none of them having good reasons, if any, for being there.

People from other countries asking semi-seriously for the US to take out their leaders as well. Mexico, Cuba, the UK, Australia, and, fuck, even France. Leftists are just exposing themselves for being the morally bankrupt, historically vacuous, and geopolitically inept nitwits that they are. Being so confidently wrong and hypocritical in their screeching over what just happened.

Do you think your timeline on a social network somehow represents what people in those respective countries think? I'm not pro-Maduro by any means, but if this is how an average person thinks nowadays, humanity truly is fucked.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Wonder what the excuse will be if the USA invades Greenland lmao.

They don't need to invade. I propose COFA and 25b usd. They will run themselves and each person (they have 50k people) gets 500k usd one time payment.

 

[Hypereides]

When will Greenland be liberated?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Wonder what the excuse will be if the USA invades Greenland lmao.

They don't need to invade.

 

[DrFigs]

grifters be grifting

America first? No, new wars!

 

[Hugare]

Wonder what the excuse will be if the USA invades Greenland lmao.

Considering the state of the world right now, if countries started voting if the US should invade them or not, many of us would be surprised (or not) by the results

Here in Brazil, we see many idiots saying that Trump should also "liberate" us, but the situation isn't nowhere near the same as the one in Venezuela (despite being pretty bad politicaly)

 

[LordCBH]

They don't need to invade.

Kinda funny how anti-Russia the EU is, while also being cool with Greenland just…sitting there, mostly undefended lol

 

[SEGAvangelist]

They don't need to invade.

Right. They would just buy it.

 

[Brazen]

Right. They would just buy it.

China or the US could just buy it, depends on who Denmark wants to deal with.

 

[Madonis]

There is no "let" in Venezuela when it comes to who is running it. Not when the Venezuela military is the cartel. It is might proves right down there unfortunately and it will be up the citizens to change the fundamentals/group of who controls them.

Several things can be true at once. The US has no interest in changing power down there, they just want that power to stop cooperation with China/Russia and focus with cooperating with the US. Having the navy at the doorstep insures that through fear/show of strength... or more us operations can/will happen. If the current regime doesn't produce results then drone strikes/etc will change minds down there and Russia/China doesn't seem to be willing to get involved.

This whole operation was about the drugs ironically, just not in the way people think. It is the export of drugs that is funding the current regime in Venezuela to stay in power. Cutting off their drug exports/blowing it up will weaken their influence and that's the reason those boats/depots are a priority.

Drone striking Iran's important personal has led to a weaker Iran today and their capital is in flames and their terrorist regime is in hiding. The Venezuela cartel will remain in power for now, but they will be weaker in time with US intervention. That is more likely to lead to opportunity for the Venezuelans then doing nothing and letting it remain a vassal country of our adversaries.

Taking out a couple more of the guys on the top would have made things a lot easier for the people of Venezuela, but we've discussed that before and I can see one of the arguments for not doing so. Separately, I think the boat operations were mostly farcical, essentially smoke and mirrors (beyond just killing a few innocent people, which is pretty bad, and hiding some of the video is rather telling), but I can admit you did make a few valid points here in the other aspects.

This definitely weakens the current rulers of Venezuela, which is a good thing. The rest is a huge question mark and, like I said, the way Trump has chosen to position Machado does weaken her politically. She must feel like a clown now.

She has no allies in the armed forces to protect her and sending Urrutia to assume charge would lead to a coup in a matter of months if not days, he'd be a sheep surrounded by wolves, all the higher ups in the armed forces respond to Diosdado Cabello

That's why there's going to be a transition, with a new election, the regime will have to fold, by that time part of armed forces and part of the judicial system that today are still pro regime, can be purged or convert

Obviously none of that would happen so casually. You'd need more of a U.S. presence to handle those parts (and/or strike down Cabello, among others), but it's clear the decision was made to stop short of going that far.

We'll see! People have asked Rubio and others about new elections and their answers are rather open-ended or outright deflection. This could easily change, or it might not.

 

[ElFenomeno]

Right. They would just buy it.

It's not for sale. The population is also against being part of US.

 

[Forsete]

Right. They would just buy it.

China or the US could just buy it, depends on who Denmark wants to deal with.

Greenland can not be sold because it is not Denmarks to sell. Greenland is like its own country within Denmark, the Greenlanders are independent within this "federation".
Also, even if it were possible to sell, it is not for sale, neither from Denmark or Greenland. Vance and the 2nd lady (is that right? ) already did a tour and were ignored.

Why would they need to buy it though?

 

[Toons]

lmao we have not had checks and balances for years on either side

If that were the case then we would've gotten those open borders a lot sooner according to some of yall.

And if we did? It'd be the same setup but inverse. South Americans celebrating, US ppl angry. That doesnt mean it would be a good thing to implement. I have the same sentiment towards this move.

But no, we do have checks and balances, we should have checks and balances, and they work well when actually employed and enforced. I'd like that to be the norm more often than not