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Is PS5 the second coming of PS2?

Absolutely! When gta 6 hits that will solidify it. It will be like gta 3 all over again. You seen the 2026 lineup of games as well.
 
Every time I read one of your threads, I'm like I need to cut back on the weed or he does. Seriously dude wtf? PS2 had tons of exclusives (a lot from 3rd parties), games didn't take forever to make, games were cheap. Fuck no it's not like the PS2. PS5 is the PS4 Super Pro. Nothing has changed since last gen except the more detailed graphics, and it's games are available on other platforms (even 1st party on pc).
 
onQ123 said:
A+ use of AI

But listen 😂

As we speak Xbox is looking for games in its catalog that will sell well on PS5 .

PlayStation is looking for PS1, PS2 , PSP games that will keep people subscribed to PlayStation+ Premium

Sega just tried to go head to head with Mario Kart & have a new Virtual Fighter coming

Everyone is releasing remakes , remasters & collections

PlayStation finally has a good fighting game coming

There isn't a PS2 shooter that can go toe to toe with Helldivers 2 & Halo ( I loved Timespliters though & just bought it for $2 for PS5 in the middle of this post because it's on sale)

What PS2 game can you put up against the Ghost of series?



PS5 got Ninja Gaiden PS2 didn't 👀
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These games all released in the FALL of 2001
You need to understand context my friend. Ghost of Yotei is another 3RD person story action game by Sony. There's nothing wrong with it - it's good at what it does. But nobody is going to give a shit about it in 25 years.

On the other hand - LOOK at that list. For one Fall the year after launch. Come on.

It's not close.
 
AGRacing said:
These games all released in the FALL of 2001
You need to understand context my friend. Ghost of Yotei is another 3RD person story action game by Sony. There's nothing wrong with it - it's good at what it does. But nobody is going to give a shit about it in 25 years.

On the other hand - LOOK at that list. For one Fall the year after launch. Come on.

It's not close.
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Besides SSX Tricky , Gran Turismo 3 & Guilty Gear X all these games are playable on PS5 with enhancements
 
onQ123 said:
Besides SSX Tricky , Gran Turismo 3 & Guilty Gear X all these games are playable on PS5 with enhancements
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So what?
A console generation is about the ORIGINAL games that get released FOR THAT CONSOLE.

Nobody is going to talk about the PlayStation 5 in 2050 about how great it played PS2 games. They're PS2 games! They made the PS2 amazing not the PS5.
 
AGRacing said:
So what?
A console generation is about the ORIGINAL games that get released FOR THAT CONSOLE.

Nobody is going to talk about the PlayStation 5 in 2050 about how great it played PS2 games. They're PS2 games! They made the PS2 amazing not the PS5.
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You're making up rules for how people can enjoy their consoles?

These games that you claim made PS2 better than PS5 are mostly playable on PS5 with enhancements & they are steadily coming + Xbox games

PS2 didn't have Uncharted, Halo , Ninja Gaiden, Forza Horizon, Last of Us , Ghost of , Fortnite, Hell Divers , Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls , Red Dead Redemption , Astro Bots , The Witcher, Hogwarts Legacy, Dark Souls , Demon's Souls, Elden Ring , Dragon's Dogma, Horizon , Rocket League, Player unknowns Battlegrounds , The Elder Scrolls , Minecraft, Roblox, Destiny, Borderlands, Mass Effect, Bioshock , Dead Space , Batman: Arkham Knight I can keep going


There might be some gems on PS2 that's still not playable on PS5 but let's be for real you're not choosing that PS2 over a PS5
 
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onQ123 said:
PS2 killed Dreamcast & received Sega games

PS5 killed Xbox Series consoles & received Xbox games .


PS5 is now around 90 million sold while still being a fresh new product to most people so it will have a few more years on the market to overtake PS1 & PS4 to become PlayStation's second best selling console before it's all said & done.

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You do have a point OP.
 
Yeah, I think it'll land between PS4 and Ps2 as well when all is said and done. Which is indeed quite an achievement.
 
J Required said:
Maybe they are selling very well because they haven't fallen as much as you think.
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Pretty sure it has to do with the difference in population compared to the turn of the century when the PS2 was released and appealing to the lowest common denominator rather than taking chances on exciting and creative forms of gameplay. The PS5 is one of the 'must have' items that define this decade considering the overall cognitive decline of humanity sales reflect very little on the quality of the console which greatly benefits from being marketed well to a much higher and sadly less intelligent population as there is nothing remarkable about the system itself, the catalog of games or online experience it's a Japanese western console a generic everyman box it's #1 but is it even a Playstation anymore? The latest Homoginzed electronic idol for the NPCs to praise but rarely enjoy it's sucess is contingent on a the failure of the industry, inflation and the need for escapism from the growing reality of a dystopia. The PS2 had SSX.
 
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We're starting a year with many potentially top selling games from top selling teams that may cause a big bump in sales. Looking at PS4 lifetime length and higher engagement in PS5 (plus GaaS and subs) seems that the PS5 generation will be longer than ever. Particularly because super likely all or almost next gen games until the PS7 release will be crossgen with PS5. And if rumors are true, we'll get a portable PS5 enlarging the userbase.

Sony is also expanding PS5 in Asia thanks to partnerships with Chinese and Korean companies, supported by their expansion to PC, mobile, movies and tv shows that is helping grow everywhere. On top of this, Xbox is dying and the next Halo, Gears and Forza Horizon are coming to PS5.

Until now PS5 performed almost like PS4, but considering all these other things combined, it's easy to think that PS5 very likely will have the best second half of its lifetime than any PS console (or console of any brand) ever had.

We may even see PS5 to end outselling PS2 at the end of its lifetime.

Kikorin said:
The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...
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Bethesda, Activision Blizzard, Double Fine or Ninja Theory and so on already were releasing their games on PS before being acquired by MS. The only change is that PS is now getting Halo, Gears or Forza Horizon. Which isn't a problem for PS at all. The opposite: now you won't need an Xbox to play them on a console.
 
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ShirAhava said:
Pretty sure it has to do with the difference in population compared to the turn of the century when the PS2 was released and appealing to the lowest common denominator rather than taking chances on exciting and creative forms of gameplay. The PS5 is one of the 'must have' items that define this decade considering the overall cognitive decline of humanity sales reflect very little on the quality of the console which greatly benefits from being marketed well to a much higher and sadly less intelligent population as there is nothing remarkable about the system itself, the catalog of games or online experience it's a Japanese western console a generic everyman box it's #1 but is it even a Playstation anymore? The latest Homoginzed electronic idol for the NPCs to praise but rarely enjoy it's sucess is contingent on a the failure of the industry, inflation and the need for escapism from the growing reality of a dystopia. The PS2 had SSX.
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PlayStation's identity for the longest time has been very clear: it's the console that gets the games. The widest third-party support, the versions developers prioritize, and then—on top of that—sprinkles of high-quality first-party releases that set the bar for polish and production. That was true on PS2, PS3, PS4, and it's absolutely true on PS5. Being the industry's center of gravity isn't selling out; it's the whole point of the brand.

Sales do matter when we're talking about "best in the space," because they translate directly into ecosystem strength. PS5 leads because it offers the most complete package right now: excellent hardware design, the fastest and most practical storage solution in consoles, mature dev tools, VR and cloud streaming and a massive active user base. That's why third-party studios build around it first. That's leadership, not lowest-common-denominator design.

The "is it even a PlayStation anymore?" argument misses the historical reality. PlayStation was never about being eccentric or outsider—it was about being the best place to play and get most games, period. Nintendo smartly carved out its own lane and thrives there. Sony chose to be the industry's main hub. Both strategies work, and both can coexist.

Microsoft is actually the clearest example of this space being mishandled. Despite huge resources, Xbox spent years on confused internal decisions—over-reliance on services, inconsistent studio management, shifting priorities, and diluted platform identity. The result wasn't innovation, it was losing mindshare and relevance as a console platform. That contrast is important: Sony didn't "play it safe," it made the correct structural calls while others stumbled.
 
Kikorin said:
The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...
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Many people are stuck with the Back Compat library like me playing New Vegas, there's no better explanation cause these games are objectively better.
 
onQ123 said:
PS2 killed Dreamcast & received Sega games

PS5 killed Xbox Series consoles & received Xbox games .


PS5 is now around 90 million sold while still being a fresh new product to most people so it will have a few more years on the market to overtake PS1 & PS4 to become PlayStation's second best selling console before it's all said & done.
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And it's mostly dependant on third party software and it's better looking standing vertical. It's totally a PS2. Now, where is my Zone Of The Enders 2?
Codes 208 said:
ps2 may have had a hand in killing the dreamcast

But the biggest thing thats killing xbox right now is xbox.
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Bruh! Call me when Xbox makes a game about Xbox killing Xbox like Sega did.
 
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In terms of sales it probably would be if they followed the same price strategy as ps2, in ps2's 5th year it costed 150$.. instead of that ps5 costs more now than it did 5 years ago, bonkers
 
PS5 would be good if it had more games.

Only games I've played on it are Death Stranding 2 and Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth. If i was a patient person I'd have waited for the PC versions. Once I complete DS2 i'm only keeping it for GTA 6 and once I've played that (so in a years time if it's not delayed) I'll be selling my PS5.

To be fair, I did buy Horizon Forbidden West, Demon's Souls and Ghost of Tsushima. I played a couple hours of Horizon and DeS but was so bored. Haven't even bothered with GoT yet and doubt I ever will.
 
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Thing tho is PS2's big exclusives were also genuine exclusives on Day 1; they may've came to Xbox later such as GTA3 & VC, but they weren't on PC Day 1 so the only place to play those games for 1-2 years (often times more) was PS2 exclusively.
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But this is the case now, no? Death stranding exclusive, came to PC 1-2 years later, Stellar Blade exclusive came 1-2 years later, FF7Remake and rebirth exclusive, came 1-2 years later.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
As well, Sony's own games WERE actual exclusives during that era. R&C, J&D, Sly Cooper, GOW, GT, Mark of Kri, Parappa 2, Mr. Mosquito, Getaway 1 & 2, SOCOM, Syphon Filter....if you wanted to play any of those, you could only play them on a PS2. No Xbox, no GameCube, no PC.
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This is true but still Sonys own games only went to other platforms year(s) later too.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
PS5 absolutely has less exclusive than PS2, not even debatable IMO on that, if we are sticking to launch-aligned timelines (and ignoring that, sure, many PS2 games have since been ported to newer consoles well after its commercial relevance). Even among SIE's own titles, the only games still exclusive are Destruction All-Stars (dead game), Bloodborne, Tomorrow Children (irrelevant), Dreams (dead), Demon's Souls, GT7, and Astrobot. Just focusing on 2020-onward that list drops to simply Demon's Souls, Destruction All-Stars, GT7, and Astro Bot. That's less games than fingers on most people's hand.
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You're counting bloodborne, The tomorrow children, Dreams. Why not The Last Guardian, Infamous second son, Ratchet and clank(2016)...
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Everything else this gen has either already been ported to PC and/or other consoles, or were Day 1 on PC (GAAS, some remakes), or other consoles (i.e LEGO Horizon on Switch).
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If you're going by gen rather than platform sure but you've listed crossgen games too.

The point is that PS2 had very few true exclusives too especially as Sony first party studios were not really much of anything until PS3. PS2 relied on timed third party exclusive stuff like MGS, GTA3, etc.
 
Of course, if you had said at the beginning of the generation how PS5 and Xbox were going to end up, nobody would have believed it. PS5 is on its way to 100 million units and is receiving Xbox games, while Xbox is on its way to the grave.
 
Horseganador said:
Of course, if you had said at the beginning of the generation how PS5 and Xbox were going to end up, nobody would have believed it. PS5 is on its way to 100 million units and is receiving Xbox games, while Xbox is on its way to the grave.
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They didn't believe it

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Thread 'Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?'

There was more hype around Xbox Scorpio than there is around Scarlett , Xbox One X started off with a nice push from Microsoft but it seems like they quickly gave up on it you can get a Xbox One X for $402 right now but no one seems to care that it's $97 off . You can get the Xbox One S A.D for $200 right now but no one seems to care, These are Holiday shopping prices but it's not creating a buzz at all , if people are not buying these consoles with 19% off discounts it has to be the brand that is undesired. Even walking into a retail store like Wal-Mart the Xbox section is like a 3rd...
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AGRacing said:
So what?
A console generation is about the ORIGINAL games that get released FOR THAT CONSOLE.

Nobody is going to talk about the PlayStation 5 in 2050 about how great it played PS2 games. They're PS2 games! They made the PS2 amazing not the PS5.
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Those are mostly games you look back on fondly when you were younger though with rose tinted glasses. It's the only reason you remember Zone of the Enders or Okage: Shadow King.

Games like Ghost of Tsushima/Yotei, Death stranding or even Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon have sold to many more people and they will look back on it the same way. Just because you've become jaded to newer games that are even more popular doesn't mean they're not good games now.
 
Inanilmaz said:
"GTA 6" the last Stone

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Going to make the nintendo animal crossing covid boost look like a pebble.
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They're not collecting that Red stone 😂

But PlayStation did show up in time to get some dust from the Atari stone after Nintendo collected it .

Maybe I should add some small Yellow stones 🤔
 
Three said:
Those are mostly games you look back on fondly when you were younger though with rose tinted glasses. It's the only reason you remember Zone of the Enders or Okage: Shadow King.

Games like Ghost of Tsushima/Yotei, Death stranding or even Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon have sold to many more people and they will look back on it the same way. Just because you've become jaded to newer games that are even more popular doesn't mean they're not good games now.
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This is the part that's crazy , people will name a game that barely sold to 1 million people & use it as proof that an older console was better but how can that game make the system better to the people who never even owned the game?

They're doing this all while ignoring that Halo one of the biggest games of that era is now coming to PS5 . Ninja Gaiden that skipped PS2 is now on PS5 . All the remasters , remakes and enhanced classics plus the great games that came after PS2 that are playable on PS5 with enhancements.
 
onQ123 said:
This is the part that's crazy , people will name a game that barely sold to 1 million people & use it as proof that an older console was better but how can that game make the system better to the people who never even owned the game?

They're doing this all while ignoring that Halo one of the biggest games of that era is now coming to PS5 . Ninja Gaiden that skipped PS2 is now on PS5 . All the remasters , remakes and enhanced classics plus the great games that came after PS2 that are playable on PS5 with enhancements.
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Yeah, I agree with you 100%.

A lot of the "older console was better" arguments rely on naming niche titles that sold under a million and then treating them like they defined an entire generation.

A perfect example is PS1. One of the biggest reasons the PS1 dominated globally wasn't some artsy cult classic people love to name-drop today — it was Winning Eleven or Pro Evolution Soccer . In huge parts of the world, that game was PlayStation. It moved consoles, built habits, and made the PS1 the default gaming platform for millions… yet in modern enthusiast forums it's barely mentioned because it's not "prestige" enough. History gets rewritten around what sounds cool, not what actually mattered.

And like you said, people also ignore reality today:
Halo — once the ultimate Xbox pillar — is coming to PS5.
Ninja Gaiden, which skipped PS2, is fully playable on PS5.
On top of that you've got remasters, remakes, enhanced classics, and everything that came after PS2 running better than ever on one machine.

So yeah, it's kind of wild to argue the past was better by citing games most people never owned, while ignoring that PS5 gives you access to more of gaming history — including former "exclusive-defining" titles — than any PlayStation before it.

At the end of the day, this logic doesn't just apply to PlayStation either — the same thing is true for Xbox Series and Steam. Nintendo to a lesser extent but its improving with Switch and Switch 2.
 
onQ123 said:
PS2 killed Dreamcast & received Sega games

PS5 killed Xbox Series consoles & received Xbox games .

PS5 is now around 90 million sold while still being a fresh new product to most people so it will have a few more years on the market to overtake PS1 & PS4 to become PlayStation's second best selling console before it's all said & done.
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MS killed the Xbox and the gaming market today is simply on another level compared to the PS2 days.

So no, the PS5 ain't the second coming of the PS2.
 
The PS6 is set to launch at the end of 2027 so expect the PS5 to be sharply discontinued soon after. GTA6 should help the PS5 crawl past 100 million but ever matching the PS4's number of consoles sold increasingly appears to be a pipe dream.
 
m14 said:
The PS6 is set to launch at the end of 2027 so expect the PS5 to be sharply discontinued soon after. GTA6 should help the PS5 crawl past 100 million but ever matching the PS4's number of consoles sold increasingly appears to be a pipe dream.
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I think you've spent so much time looking at xbox series sales that you simply can't comprehend the difference in scale versus the PS5. Its more than likely that PS5 sales will be over 100 million by the time GTA6 is released, no "crawling" necessary. No need to rush into another console generation with xbox bowing out on the hardware front, Switch 2 and PS5 will co-exist together for years to come.

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Brucey said:
I think you've spent so much time looking at xbox series sales that you simply can't comprehend the difference in scale versus the PS5. Its more than likely that PS5 sales will be over 100 million by the time GTA6 is released, no "crawling" necessary. No need to rush into another console generation with xbox bowing out on the hardware front, Switch 2 and PS5 will co-exist together for years to come.
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With it returning to its standard (inflated) retail price in its sixth year on the market, PS5 console sales will be really slow until GTA 6.
PS5 will indeed be supported for many years with software, but Sony will stop selling the console after the PS6 launches and every indication is that will be towards the end of 2027. Be sure that I trust Sony's own timeline on this and not the wishful thinking of some of their more ardent supporters.
 
m14 said:
The PS6 is set to launch at the end of 2027 so expect the PS5 to be sharply discontinued soon after. GTA6 should help the PS5 crawl past 100 million but ever matching the PS4's number of consoles sold increasingly appears to be a pipe dream.
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Just so I can quote this post in a few years 😂
 
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