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LordCBH
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LordCBH
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One is far less likely to start beeping and exploding in public. Or plow a vehicle through Christmas markets.
New Orleans truck ramming on Jan 1st 2025 killed 14. Now that was a complete fuckup as they had barriers available to protect against such attack but failed to deploy them until after the attack...
LordCBH
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The city should've been sued into oblivion after that. All the fucked yo shit in the world today and you DON'T put up something that simple? Just offensively stupid.
No worries they can brush up on their Russian when Putin is done with Ukraine.
We never should've bailed Europe out in WW2 at this point lol
LordCBH
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Da.
Topher
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It's absurd and not thought through very well, imo. If the US annexed Canada, the Republican party would never win another Presidential election. The political shift would be huge.
Dirk Benedict
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Yeah, he needs to rethink that one, but there is a province that wants to break away from Canada, too. Alberta?
Avid Reading Horse
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ToneyJ
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eh the overton window keeps shifting. The Trump govt is doing stuff right now that 20 years ago would have never gotten the Republican party re-elected. I'm sure americans wont give a shit about annexing Canada when global warming kicks in for real. Hell that's probably why they're looking at taking greenland right now. Then when they establish that Nato wont do shit to stop them to taking Greenland, theyll go for Canada.
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Topher
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I'm saying the number of left leaning voters would increase greatly. That's an immediate shift to the left
ToneyJ
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If they did it this year, sure. But 10 years from now who knows, people might not even care and be like "yeah we need Canada's water." The fact that Trump still has 35% of the country's support after all this bullshit he's pulled so far says a lot.
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Unknown Soldier
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LimanimaPT
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Hum...yes?
Since when that gives the right to the US to take him out? Where is that law written?
Do YOU know what you are talking about?
Hypereides
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Cute oversimplification.
Its all relative. Some places more so than others. Bundling them all together to pass it off as an equal situation throughout the world isn't a compelling argument as you think it is.
I'm going to make a bold claim and say the amount of people struggling in the Danish Commonwealth is *tiny* compared to that of the US. Demographically, speaking.
Wanna know where this weird sudden obsession about Greenland may have stemmed from?
This reeks of another brexit-like interference maneuver.
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ZehDon
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Icymanipulator
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Didn't you claim Maduro was president? He wasn't.
Paasei
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Because they are stupid and compensate it by brute force. Which they do have.
As is shown here.
Hypereides
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Don't do this, man. This is exactly the kind of outcome some nation states are trying to achieve.
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The Sum of Zero
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The Sum of Zero
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Edit: Drunk, lol my bad.
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Forsete
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It will only take him 200 years.
Bojji
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Mexicans and other (Central and South) American nations have a lot of cartels and other criminal organizations. But normal people are far less likely to do anything like what you said in your post.
In the end Democratic party was far more logical before all this woke bullshit. This and support for illegal migration completly tanked their popularity. Once they drop this bullshit they will be able to win with Republicans.
I always wondered why there is no 3rd - center part in USA, dual party system doesn't scream "choice" to me.
I doubt we will have anyone like Trump in the near future:
- He is old so he doesn't care
- He wants to achieve his goals no matter what others think
- He already proved breaking the law (both international and US) is like nothing to him
- Ultra right, MAGA crowd will defend his every action
He knows that he won't be a president again and that any types of eventual consequences won't catch up with him after his presidency ends (as mentioned, he is old...). That's why he pulls moves like that so easily. I doubt younger candidates (and eventual presidents) will have balls to do such things and risk tanking their political careers.
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StueyDuck
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The Era folk really are coming out the woodwork like Michael buble at christmas with this topic.
Baemono
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The real question would be: why is there only 2 major political party in the US in general and not way more, representing the almost 400 million people ?
I think it's actually the better system, not perfect but better. When you have niche and small parties they only care about their own voters, and if they dont get ehat they want they can tank the government.
US is pretty stable because of it.
The two parties aren't static. Every cycle they adjust their positions and priorities to account for public interest and previous election performance.
In a European parliamentary system coalitions are formed from smaller parties. In the US system those coalitions form within the parties.
Why only two? We can look at something like Moral Foundations Theory to explain the liberal--conservative divide and why it's an effective way to organize disparate worldviews.
StueyDuck
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Basically because of money.
Both parties horde all the wealth and distribute it within those parties for kickbacks and deals that help themselves. Theres a reason why you can trace most leaders families back those who owned plantations and government back then. Its all about keeping it in the family.
Thats why Donald Trump has been so divisive and upsetting to the overall system
Even Musk couldnt really financially back a 3rd party and be competitive.
Id wager most of the candidates dont even care what party they are in or who or what it stands for.
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Baemono
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But didn't a rich guy almost managed in early ´90s to have close to 1/3 of the votes (making Bush Sr to lose against Clinton) ?
P:axMagellanic
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winjer
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Stable would be the last word I would use to describe the US political system.
And having only 2 political parties, means the only way for extremists to have any saying is to infiltrate and hijack the Democrats or Republican discourse.
A system that can represent multiple parties on a parliament is not perfect, but it has a huge advantage of having ideologies in relatively well defined parties.
In a way this helps a lot in keeping the center parties "clean" of extremist ideologies.
For example, here in Portugal we have 2 extreme left parties, one of them being the communist party. They have a small representation and their speech is well defined and often opposed to the center parties.
And they can't hijack discourse from the center moderates.
On a different note. Iran is now having massive civilian protests against the government and the Ayatollah.
Maybe all it takes is a small nudge to allow for a regime change and allow Iran to get rid of Islamists in government and go back to being a more civilized country.
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Bojji
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Yeah, extreme far right and far left parties would only sometimes be part of coalitions (and sometimes Right and Left parties are in the same coalitions, like currently in Poland).
I doubt current marriage of woke and Democrat party would happen if there were more left wing parties. But I guess system that works for almost 200 years is not likely to change.
ChuckeRearmed
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To be fair I think terrorists islamists are your new best friends.
And considering that europeans for sure do like to preach and complain about how USA should act and behave (while not even bothering to pay NATO dues), the also applying trade barriers comparable to chinese ones on trade and even tech...Europe (not all) is like a free and independent woman, who lives in a man's house.
You cant sue DEI hire. That's racist and sexist.
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Unknown Soldier
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StueyDuck
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You are right, but the money then vs the money now is an exponential graph
calico
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The real divide in US politics since President Trump entered the ring is Uniparty vs MAGA. Changing it to this from the status quo ante Uniparty Red vs Uniparty Blue required a once in a thousand year political masterclass which nobody believed possible.
Even with that shift, when it comes to outward facing policy, I don't think the Uniparty is too upset with President Trump. His rhetoric might give the Uniparty conniptions, but his actions are nowhere near the rhetoric. The Uniparty may not have taken some of the risks President Trump has taken, but neither would they regret them after they have been successful.
Even with that shift, when it comes to outward facing policy, I don't think the Uniparty is too upset with President Trump. His rhetoric might give the Uniparty conniptions, but his actions are nowhere near the rhetoric. The Uniparty may not have taken some of the risks President Trump has taken, but neither would they regret them after they have been successful.
Topher
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"Conquering" Canada won't be happening either. The only way this would ever happen (it's a pipe dream either way) is if Canada willfully joined and that would come with conditions. Such as voting rights.
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Lukaku's First Touch
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Some people on here are just mouthpieces for Donald Trump. Can't think for themselves and just repeat what he says. I bet most of the them don't know where Greenland is or maybe never even heard of Greenland but suddenly they must take it over!
I bet if the US asked Denmark if they could build 50 extra bases they would've been allowed to, but no they got to take it over with force.
How did we even get here...
I bet if the US asked Denmark if they could build 50 extra bases they would've been allowed to, but no they got to take it over with force.
How did we even get here...
Signalis
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You have no idea what a dictator is. And quite a few of you on here do not seem to live in a healthy reality.
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winjer
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That is a very important point to remember. The USA had a lot of allies not only willing to have a base in their territory, but they wanted it.
Not only it provided additional security for that country but also was an economical benefit, as those troops would spend money in the local economy.
Before Trump, the USA had a lot of political capital amongst it's allies. The USA could just ask for favors and get them with no problems or caveats.
A good example of this is how the USA declared Nato's Article 5, the only country to have ever done it, to invade Iraq, on what everyone knew was false pretenses and still most Nato countries went along with it.
This amount of political capital is unheard. Neither China nor Russia, or any other major adversary could be able to have other countries join up in a war, just by asking.
Lukaku's First Touch
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Correct. Tbh the value for the economy is minimal but the security yes. Also for the US to be able to project power all over the world from these bases is important for them.
But we all now this isn't about security. It's all about resources/minerals/oil. Same bullshit talking points from his buddy Putin.
Alexios
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Most folks cheering don't know where the country is but pretend to know everything the natives feel, everything they ever voted for, the extent to which their elections were rigged (because it's not rigged if the opposition or a coup both backed by foreigners get in power), how bad Maduro is, etc.
I mean, you have a two party system that's as capitalist as it gets (like most of the world, including China and Russia btw) and with similar policies save for fringe details but you call each other fascist or communist (lmao) and would gladly kill each other if there was no repercussion (and/or benefits, like settlers). Not to mention your favorite game has shifted from the good old times of mass shooters leading to "thoughts & prayers and let's do nothing but wait for the next one", into "was it blue or red, of course it was from that side, you're all scum that should be shot unlike us truemericans"!
Magas would be cheering if Trump's coup worked, would be cheering if the troops he mobilized to this or that great city of yours had indeed shot some of your fellow Americans that protested against whatever down, they will even be cheering if he does declare himself dictator as he's (traitorously) said he wishes to be, excusing it as being what the country needs or whatever, so to present some '24 Panama video of a fiesta for US-backed so called Maduro opposition or some Argentinian celebration and claim it shows Venezuelans cheering after/for what happened means nothing, some folks will always cheer. Even for local dictators or foreign conquerors you have eager traitors & collaborators lick boots for wealth & power as we saw in many countries around WWII and as we see in this thread, it's not proof of your claims any more than pardons make scum good.
Shit you're talking about democracy elsewhere but your own is failing, you're talking about dictators as Trump dictates outside your constitution and you cheer for it, as you cheer when he mobilizes armed forces within your own cities and they brutalize or kill folks you disagree politically with. Wtf?
So many officials and Trump himself have said it's for the oil/resources/power, nothing else matters, to excuse it second hand with no power or will of your own as being for people, against a dictator, an ideology, drugs (knowing full well how much of the drugs in your country and worldwide is thanks to your own shady ass so called government agencies), or whatever you reach to in order to feign some nonexistent moral high ground, with Trump shaking hands and being on friendly terms with dictators like Putin and Salman and pardoning Hernandez and other scum, is, Idk what it is.
Like working with China or whatever you think just because they stopped using your weakening dollar for trading is because they wanna invade you and not because of better terms than your sanctions, planted moles, coups, strikes on fishing boats, extortion for and robbery of all their resources. Like, this is the capitalist world you pretend to want but whenever it doesn't go in your favor I guess your free market needs some already poor citizens to pay up to bail this or that company even though only the elites get the profits from its good times or needs some military force corrections
Just say you hope cheap oil trickles down to you as you're marching towards your next great crash, even though it will just fill the oligarchs' (even as they play musical chairs every so often) coffers while you reach a million homeless Americans and 50 millions in poverty whether jobless or working two jobs (that you'll proclaim is their choice or consequence to their choices, even your own people don't matter or are evil to you, never mind Venezuelans). Not that it's a good way to lift yourself up, but at least it'd make some sense, unlike this moral bs. Shit, you even have some of the worst detention facilities with no formal accusations or trials and your last resort excuse is that (most of?) it is not inside the U.S. like it's about technicalities and any third world dictators could simply declare the prisons independent to their nations to instantly elevate up to your grand civilization's standards. But then it's your own mandated international law that is another technicality you should be able to bypass to operate in international waters and in other sovereign nations just the same, because in that case it's other subhuman evil people trying to exploit some unfair technicalities, lol.
This is multinational corporation checkers & little more, they have no law, country, god or whatever you wanna believe in and will do what interests them the most, everyone else (you too) is a resource, target or collateral damage at will, regardless of how much you cheer as if watching football
All this is why the future will be more Mad Max than Star Trek as they transition power from resources like oil and rare earths to necessities like water (but with much more firepower available, at least in the early phases, even after the bombs drop). Probably skipping the Blade Runner phase even.
PS: ya all are defending or worse yet cheering for a *redacted* who refuses to release (despite promises just to get voted in) and has been tampering with the epstein files since he got back in power.
I mean, you have a two party system that's as capitalist as it gets (like most of the world, including China and Russia btw) and with similar policies save for fringe details but you call each other fascist or communist (lmao) and would gladly kill each other if there was no repercussion (and/or benefits, like settlers). Not to mention your favorite game has shifted from the good old times of mass shooters leading to "thoughts & prayers and let's do nothing but wait for the next one", into "was it blue or red, of course it was from that side, you're all scum that should be shot unlike us truemericans"!
Magas would be cheering if Trump's coup worked, would be cheering if the troops he mobilized to this or that great city of yours had indeed shot some of your fellow Americans that protested against whatever down, they will even be cheering if he does declare himself dictator as he's (traitorously) said he wishes to be, excusing it as being what the country needs or whatever, so to present some '24 Panama video of a fiesta for US-backed so called Maduro opposition or some Argentinian celebration and claim it shows Venezuelans cheering after/for what happened means nothing, some folks will always cheer. Even for local dictators or foreign conquerors you have eager traitors & collaborators lick boots for wealth & power as we saw in many countries around WWII and as we see in this thread, it's not proof of your claims any more than pardons make scum good.
Shit you're talking about democracy elsewhere but your own is failing, you're talking about dictators as Trump dictates outside your constitution and you cheer for it, as you cheer when he mobilizes armed forces within your own cities and they brutalize or kill folks you disagree politically with. Wtf?
So many officials and Trump himself have said it's for the oil/resources/power, nothing else matters, to excuse it second hand with no power or will of your own as being for people, against a dictator, an ideology, drugs (knowing full well how much of the drugs in your country and worldwide is thanks to your own shady ass so called government agencies), or whatever you reach to in order to feign some nonexistent moral high ground, with Trump shaking hands and being on friendly terms with dictators like Putin and Salman and pardoning Hernandez and other scum, is, Idk what it is.
Like working with China or whatever you think just because they stopped using your weakening dollar for trading is because they wanna invade you and not because of better terms than your sanctions, planted moles, coups, strikes on fishing boats, extortion for and robbery of all their resources. Like, this is the capitalist world you pretend to want but whenever it doesn't go in your favor I guess your free market needs some already poor citizens to pay up to bail this or that company even though only the elites get the profits from its good times or needs some military force corrections
Just say you hope cheap oil trickles down to you as you're marching towards your next great crash, even though it will just fill the oligarchs' (even as they play musical chairs every so often) coffers while you reach a million homeless Americans and 50 millions in poverty whether jobless or working two jobs (that you'll proclaim is their choice or consequence to their choices, even your own people don't matter or are evil to you, never mind Venezuelans). Not that it's a good way to lift yourself up, but at least it'd make some sense, unlike this moral bs. Shit, you even have some of the worst detention facilities with no formal accusations or trials and your last resort excuse is that (most of?) it is not inside the U.S. like it's about technicalities and any third world dictators could simply declare the prisons independent to their nations to instantly elevate up to your grand civilization's standards. But then it's your own mandated international law that is another technicality you should be able to bypass to operate in international waters and in other sovereign nations just the same, because in that case it's other subhuman evil people trying to exploit some unfair technicalities, lol.
This is multinational corporation checkers & little more, they have no law, country, god or whatever you wanna believe in and will do what interests them the most, everyone else (you too) is a resource, target or collateral damage at will, regardless of how much you cheer as if watching football
All this is why the future will be more Mad Max than Star Trek as they transition power from resources like oil and rare earths to necessities like water (but with much more firepower available, at least in the early phases, even after the bombs drop). Probably skipping the Blade Runner phase even.
PS: ya all are defending or worse yet cheering for a *redacted* who refuses to release (despite promises just to get voted in) and has been tampering with the epstein files since he got back in power.
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winjer
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In the case of Venezuela it's clearly about controlling global oil production and prices.
The importance of Greenland is merely strategic. But the USA already had the political capital to have a base there. Which the USA has.
And if asked nicely, they Greenlanders would gladly accept a few more.
Trump saying it will invade an ally country only serves to alienate all US allies, for no gain, because Greenland already has a US base there.
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