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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Instead of acknowledging that a 3 minute average trailer is not a "deep dive", or a "gameplay breakdown", he's gonna continue arguing with people about it.
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Instead of acknowledging that a 3 minute average trailer is not a "deep dive", or a "gameplay breakdown", he's gonna continue arguing with people about it.
To point out that he would have been on the receiving end of the defence force had he even said the opposite (that the trailer was shallow on details). Ie like diffusionx did when that trailer initially released:
A perfectly reasonable statement yet the usual suspects jumped the dude anyway and defended MS' honour pointing out blog posts about the games vision and it giving us a good enough glimpse. Turned out the game didn't even exist either.
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clarky
Gold Member
i called out Mr duck for the reasons i explained. Nothing to do with any other members or this imaginary defense force you mention.
No idea why you are even bothering to type this shit.
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Go back and read what I said and you'll get that was my only point:
That was my only point. I'm bothering to type it because I too am calling out this bullshit. Nothing more. Same reason you bothered to type out whatever shit you typed out to stueyduck over use of a word you don't agree with.
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Esquie
Neo Member
There was no Perfect Dark deep dive. It was just a 2 minute trailer showing a vertical slice of the game. We got no gameplay details or deep dive info whatsoever.
Senua
Member
Punished Miku
Banned
Neo Member but still part of our cabal. We're growing ...
Esquie
Neo Member
I just logged on and replied to the notification without reading the next two pages. Looks like other people are calling out that post as well. Yeah, a 2 min trailer with no gameplay details whatsoever is obviously not a deep dive. Not sure how that's even up for debate.Bro be careful. Three will get you too
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clarky
Gold Member
Go back and read what i said. we could do this all day if you like.
Show me a deep dive of perfect dark and ill shut the fuck up
RedC
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My dude the so called "deep dive" based on the trailer was an official blog post detailing combat, missions and other stuff.Bro be careful. Three will get you too
Perfect Dark: Answering the Big Questions from its Incredible First Gameplay Trailer - Xbox Wire
After seeing the first gameplay trailer for Perfect Dark, we caught up with the developers to answer some of the big questions about this exciting secret agent thriller reboot.
news.xbox.com
You can argue semantics and say it wasn't a "deep dive" and the trailers were shallow but some of the same people here were arguing the opposite and pointing to this blog post when people were calling the trailer uninformative back then. Prove me wrong.
Unknown?
Member
Copilot: The Game!
Fallout 3 remaster ?
Senua
Member
Damn now he's coming at me and I didn't even say anything about it!My dude the so called "deep dive" based on the trailer was an official blog post detailing combat, missions and other stuff.
Perfect Dark: Answering the Big Questions from its Incredible First Gameplay Trailer - Xbox Wire
After seeing the first gameplay trailer for Perfect Dark, we caught up with the developers to answer some of the big questions about this exciting secret agent thriller reboot.
You can argue semantics and say it wasn't a "deep dive" and the trailers were shallow but some of the same people here were arguing the opposite and pointing to this blog post when people were calling the trailer uninformative back then. Prove me wrong.
I posted the accompanying official blog post but your definition of deep isn't relevant or even important. It's pedantic bullshit that's beside the point.
You're the one who keeps mentioning me.
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clarky
Gold Member
Are you high? If you're not may I suggest you should be.
My definition of what a deep dive is is highly relevant to the person i was talking to. Not you.
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Senua
Member
Because you're hilarious. You will literally argue with anyone about anything, even if you had nothing to do with the argument in the first place. You just love it too damn much, it's fun to watch though I'll give you that
Punished Miku
Banned
Boring as shit. Sorry man.
I dont need Tides of Whatever girl in every game. Just the same homogenized white anime boring design.
I think people will come around very quickly when they actually see the game. They will then say the character was radically improved and wow they listened. But that will also be false. It was always good. It always fit Fable. People have been staring at 1 frozen frame and mocking the game for years and actually believed it lol.
Stand and be counted.
Faltherion
Member
I'm not the one who was hung up about somebody using the word deep dive "wrongly" on the internet. That person is that way <---
but I see another regular I'm talking about has shown up.
I also think those redesign are always ridiculous as hell. But that character has nothing to do with Fable, same for the art style in general. Pretending otherwise is laughable.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dr. Suchong
Member
Looking forward to this.
Cautiously optimistic for FH6, but I think it needs a bit of an overhaul gameplay wise, rather than "more of the same", starting to get a bit stale imo.
I'll be biting my nails off for Fable.
Please be good.
Cautiously optimistic for FH6, but I think it needs a bit of an overhaul gameplay wise, rather than "more of the same", starting to get a bit stale imo.
I'll be biting my nails off for Fable.
Please be good.
Yeah I would debate and offer my opinion on a forum about anything. What's different/hilarious about me vs those replying to Stueyduck arguing endlessly regarding the use of the word "deep dive"?
Adamsapple had nothing to do with it in the first place either, even you, yet you got involved. It's a forum. people get involved and debate things. if you find that hilarious then your humour might be a little weird, if you find that fun then I guess the forum is serving its purpose.
Faltherion
Member
Have you ever looked into the mirror? Just curious.
Light_Crusader25
Neo Member
These two games are my most anticipated titles from Microsoft. Not buying a PS5 anytime soon, but I will hopefully live long enough to get one and enjoy both games. Playground has proven to be MS best and most consistent studio, so I am expecting to be really impressed...
Faltherion
Member
I am curious too see how they evolved Fable core ideas such as the choices and consequences and all that jazz with modern tech now. As for Forza Horizon 6, I hope the soundtrack doesn't suck, because it was awful in Forza Horzion 5. I still think Forza Horizon 4 had the best soundtrack. I also they do less story bullshit in Forza Horizon 6, the stuff in Forza Horizon 5 just felt annoying and super forced. Let me skip the stupid story cut-scenes, it's a racing game, no one cares about story, just let me race lol
clarky
Gold Member
Wasn't arguing endlessly about anything, think i relpyed a few times at most. It was done and dusted until you turned up.Yeah I would debate and offer my opinion on a forum about anything. What's different/hilarious about me vs those replying to Stueyduck arguing endlessly regarding the use of the word "deep dive"?
Adamsapple had nothing to do with it in the first place either, even you, yet you got involved. It's a forum. people get involved and debate things. if you find that hilarious then your humour might be a little weird, if you find that fun then I guess the forum is serving its purpose.
One more time the guy claimed fable had a chance of being cancelled after the showcase because the same thing happened to PD, which isn't the case because all we saw of PD was a shitty vertical slice.
No fan boys, no pile on. I just asked to see this supposed "deep dive" his words not mine btw which he couldn't provide, because there wasn't one. Its fairly simple.
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Stafford
Member
We'll see. I don't think the FH games really ever got downgraded from their first showings and they claimed it was Xbox Series X footage that they showed of Fable, the gameplay bits that is.
No fanboys?
if you say so.He got piled on by Ozriel and Adamsapple the biggest of them with matching known fanboy tags. They try to pile on with me too but I really couldn't care.
I don't think it has any likelyhood of being cancelled for what it's worth. Stuey said you don't know what they plan to show for fable. Stuey said call the trailer whatever you want it doesn't matter because it was them trying to show it exists yet you stuck to arguing about the use of the word deep dive. I said that the people calling it a shallow sizzle reel now (ie people like Adam and Ozriel) were the people who were piling on diffusionx for saying the previous trailer didn't show much at all. Ozriel pointing to the blog post I linked.
StueyDuck is right too. That was all they could muster but it was them trying ro show that they had something that exists. They were called out on it in 2023 and they said they will do a gameplay reveal with a deep dive in 18 months.
Perfect Dark and State of Decay 3 Are on Track for Gameplay Deep Dives Within 18 Months – Matt Booty
Xbox Game Studios head Matt Booty says the first party teams are aware that the expectation going forward will be to showcase gameplay for their titles.
They just had very little prepared outside of that 3min vertical slice and "deep dive" blog post come mid 2024. They ultimately pulled the plug. Why does the use of the word deep dive matter though especially when he said it doesn't matter whatever format you think that should take. The point was that it was them trying to show the "game exists and here are the mechanics"
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Faltherion
Member
I can promise you it is not that deep. Now how about we start finding a way to create another stream of passive income instead?No fanboys?
He got piled on by Ozriel and Adamsapple the biggest of them with matching known fanboy tags. They try to pile on with me too but I really couldn't care.
I don't think it has any likelyhood of being cancelled for what it's worth. Stuey said you don't know what they plan to show for fable. Stuey said call the trailer whatever you want it doesn't matter because it was them trying to show it exists yet you stuck to arguing about the use of the word deep dive. I said that the people calling it a shallow sizzle reel now (ie people like Adam and Ozriel) were the people who were piling on diffusionx for saying the previous trailer didn't show much at all. Ozriel pointing to the blog post I linked.
StueyDuck is right too. That was all they could muster but it was them trying ro show that they had something that exists. They were called out on it in 2023 and they said they will do a gameplay reveal with a deep dive in 18 months.
Perfect Dark and State of Decay 3 Are on Track for Gameplay Deep Dives Within 18 Months – Matt Booty
Xbox Game Studios head Matt Booty says the first party teams are aware that the expectation going forward will be to showcase gameplay for their titles.gamingbolt.com
They just had very little prepared outside of that 3min vertical slice and "deep dive" blog post come mid 2024. They ultimately pulled the plug. Why does the use of the word deep dive matter though especially when he said it doesn't matter whatever format you think that should take. The point was that it was them trying to show the game
Crayon
Member
You know, I am kind of wondering if they're going to slip in some alternate character. One or more. Then they'll try to play it off like that was going to be the plan the whole time.
At this point, it has to be clear to these people that these dowdy woman character designs are not popular. Never were. And are still breeding more and more contempt.
Someone with power there has got to care more about millions of dollars and the brand of a big IP more than they are scared of putting their foot down.
RedC
Member
I was just staying within the constraints of the original character design and "improving" it with minimal changes up to Gaf's "standards".
Personally, I don't give a fuck how she looks, but I'd be lying if I didn't acknowledge that it does matter to other people.
I could've gone a bit more gonner bait with:
Matt Booty with regards to PerfectDark and state of decay 3 in 2023 when called out on showing very little about those titles:
"So as I look ahead to the next 18 months in terms of what we're going to be able to show and deliver and do that kind of gameplay [reveal], I'm cautiously confident. Because the teams are hard at work, and they get that that's kind of the bar now, which is, 'let's show it, let's show up with gameplay and do a deeper dive when we show up.'"
When they showed up it was with that 3min vertical slice and blog post. The shills/fanboys come 2024 were then arguing that the reveal was substantial in terms of information about the game. When people like Diffusionx were saying they didn't give much info the shills were pointing to that blog post and gameplay. Now they're arguing the opposite, that it wasn't enough, that it was nothing.
I don't care how deep you think it is and I don't need another source of passive income.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
it looked good???
Yes?
You won't find or see a better fantasy town with that much lively details until Witcher 4
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Only if they remove all animation features in her face and act like a photoshoot all the time
How dares she frown?! Or express something in a game that never took itself seriously?
These peoples want a korean MMO avatar that looks like a doll and lifeless.
The fable actress in photoshoot
Same actress at a random moment in TV series Lockwood
Not everything is always perfect lighting and angle all the time.
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Punished Miku
Banned
Nailed it. Her face is actually expressive which is exactly how you achieve comedy like Fable should have. And yeah, they want freeze frame Ciri instead for every game.Only if they remove all animation features in her face and act like a photoshoot all the time
How dares she frown?! Or express something in a game that never took itself seriously?
These peoples want a korean MMO avatar that looks like a doll and lifeless.
Boring.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Only if they remove all animation features in her face and act like a photoshoot all the time
How dares she frown?! Or express something in a game that never took itself seriously?
These peoples want a korean MMO avatar that looks like a doll and lifeless.
The fable actress in photoshoot
Same actress at a random moment in TV series Lockwood
Not everything is always perfect lighting and angle all the time.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
Out of all actresses they have found the most unbritish looking. Granted not that many women in UK are hot. The girl certainly isn't. She looks exotic and her Fable render has SM2 MJ spirit.Only if they remove all animation features in her face and act like a photoshoot all the time
How dares she frown?! Or express something in a game that never took itself seriously?
These peoples want a korean MMO avatar that looks like a doll and lifeless.
The fable actress in photoshoot
Same actress at a random moment in TV series Lockwood
Not everything is always perfect lighting and angle all the time.
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Faltherion
Member
Oh wow. Could you please donate to my Lamborghini Charity Fund then? I'll DM you the link soon. You seem so nice!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This thread is jumping the fugly shark.
Sure just dm me your bank account details and I'll send it right away. What colour did you want?
I'd advise you spend your time getting another stream of passive income instead of asking here though.
Faltherion
Member
Oh I don't need another stream of passive income, the charity is to help my retarded cousin billo.Sure just dm me your bank account details and I'll send it right away. What colour did you want?
I'd advise you spend your time getting another stream of passive income instead of asking here though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Punished Miku
Banned
Well that would have been a neat surprise. Instead we get a dull tweet from *checks notes* ... Andy Robinson.
Probably another Double Fine game is my guess then.