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[P:axMagellanic]

And except UK which country employs this?

China? Multiple states in America do weird 'online safety' shit and expanding. You act like the UK doesn't matter, it's often ground zero and ahead of the game when it comes to digitisation.

There's no getting away from it whilst Marxists are allowed to infest legislative positions all over the globe.

 

[Kadve]

so devil's advocate... what if i just use the teen features to avoid this shit

what am i missing out on?

Porn

 

[PeteBull]

Am I one of the few that can't stand having to use Discord?

At ur age u probably cant stand to use most tech more advanced than:

 

[Dorago]

They are North Korea censoring the entire internet, but who really cares anymore. Let's go back to driving cars and getting drunk because online is so lame and full of you know who's and you know what anymore it's unbearable.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Keep the kids safe, while also allowing an elite pedo ring to communicate via fucking email for two decades. Yeah, sure. Fuck off.

 

[Topher]

At ur age u probably cant stand to use most tech more advanced than:

Slow down man. Gotta master counting fingers and toes before I get to that weird contraption

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

 

[Lux77]

Countries are slowly pushing for digital IDs. Banning social media for under 16 is just the first step in transition (and a good excuse).

 

[CuNi]

I wonder if Vencord or any other modded Discord client will be able to circumvent this.
Either that or I'm going to "verify" with AI-Slop images.
I will find a way, and this is a threat.

 

[xrnzaaas]

I wonder if they already trained their AI to recognize Sam Bridges.

 

[Zeusexy]

So long. Switching to Telegram.

 

[pudel]

I have never thought this book would be ever used as an instruction manual...but somehow it is.

 

[amigastar]

That's a big no from me.
Even if i have to admit i use Discord but not with this shit.

 

[Trilobit]

No surprise there, online privacy will soon fade away with most apps.

It was just a matter of time when we saw 'The Narrative' and 'The Message' crumbling on platforms with freer speech. They're still alive and well on reddit, but X has been ruthless to them. Especially the EU seems to have gotten terrified as the people have started resisting, so it's just a matter of time before things become draconian here too.

At ur age u probably cant stand to use most tech more advanced than:

I love how needlessly vitrolic this response was.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

 

[Unknown Soldier]

If this is like the other abortive attempts to implement this, you can just use a picture of anybody and upload it and it will work

This is what happened in the UK and Australia when they tried to force people to do this

Don't be stupid and use a real picture of yourself

 

[bender]

Thankfully I hate the readability of Discord so I don't use it.

 

[Futaleufu]

Meh, good riddance, I was banned from a channel for refusing to join in their negativity. Funny how mods managed to get there while hating the subject.

 

[Generic]

If this is like the other abortive attempts to implement this, you can just use a picture of anybody and upload it and it will work

This is what happened in the UK and Australia when they tried to force people to do this

Don't be stupid and use a real picture of yourself

Years ago Facebook detected "suspicious activity" on my account and asked a selfie, I slapped a random Scarlett Johansson pic and it worked lol

 

[jshackles]

Stoat - Previously Revolt. I would consider it the best Discord alternative available right now. It lacks federation which I feel is a missed opportunity.

I looked into this too since I played around with Revolt a while back but hadn't run it since they changed the name.

The lack of federation is quite a dealbreaker for something like this (meaning all your friends would have to go specifically to your self-hosted server URL to chat), but also it seems that their mobile app is compiled with their cloud-hosted solution URLs baked in. Meaning if you want your friends to use your Stoat server you'll need to compile your own app binaries and distribute them (probably not possible on iPhone either).

Of course, you could use the Stoat cloud-hosted server, but that kind of puts you in the same precarious position everyone currently finds themselves in with Discord.

Guess I'll stick to Matrix.

 

[Kronark]

My discord account is 10 years old... Do they think I was 7 when I opened it? I look forward to using AI to feed them a fake face.

Also the far more sinister reveal in the announcement:

"Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age."

What the fuck are the implications of that constantly running?

 

[pudel]

"Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age."

What the fuck are the implications of that constantly running?

I guess they will analyze everything you write. Now with these nice AI's thats super easy to do without needing huge manpower for this.

 

[Dacvak]

I have to use Discord for work, but I'm definitely not doing this. I wonder how that will all shake out…

 

[xrnzaaas]

My discord account is 10 years old... Do they think I was 7 when I opened it? I look forward to using AI to feed them a fake face.

Also the far more sinister reveal in the announcement:

"Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age."

What the fuck are the implications of that constantly running?

10 years is nothing, plenty of people have "mature" youtube or google accounts and they can be still asked for "verification".

 

[Topher]

I have to use Discord for work, but I'm definitely not doing this. I wonder how that will all shake out…

Everyone will start using AI to create fake IDs and face scans

 

[Unknown Soldier]

My discord account is 10 years old... Do they think I was 7 when I opened it? I look forward to using AI to feed them a fake face.

Also the far more sinister reveal in the announcement:

"Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age."

What the fuck are the implications of that constantly running?

If you haven't been assuming everything you type and say on Discord is being government monitored already well first you better delete your whole current Discord account and second you better start assuming you're always on your best behavior if you start your new account

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

Teen mode you say

Teen mode you say

 

[HoodWinked]

Sucks that we haven't devised some way to verify age without compromising privacy. Face scans being the current standard is an insane way of doing things.

 

[tylrdiablos]

How long until we're back on TeamSpeak and PHPBB forums for our communities?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Sucks that we haven't devised some way to verify age without compromising privacy. Face scans being the current standard is an insane way of doing things.

For getting on airplanes, I can accept face scanning

Everything else though these corporations can fuck off to Uranus

 

[pqueue]

My Discord acct is tied to my Hotmail/Live account which is definitely older than 21 years old.

MS should get their shit together and use all the personal data they have collected about me and make note of that.

 

[pqueue]

I have to use Discord for work, but I'm definitely not doing this. I wonder how that will all shake out…

not a big behind-the-scenes discord person, but i am pretty sure work/enterprise instances have a different set of auth controls that route through your enterprise auth server.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Sucks that we haven't devised some way to verify age without compromising privacy. Face scans being the current standard is an insane way of doing things.

There are two ways that can be both relatively effective and preserve privacy:

A. Have ISPs provide some type of age assurance pass to whoever pays the internet bill. The ISP already knows who you are and a lot of your personal info anyway (including the sites and services you use) so it isn't much of an issue.
B. Use government issued IDs but let users cover up all information except birthdate, letting the service identify it's legitimacy by the design of the ID.

 

[archangelmorph]

My tin foil hat theory is that this type of enforcement is to do with the new world order change that's currently happening.

Linking individuals to a social credit system. They are worried with the current setup that declining birth rates will compound with how things are over the coming decades.

Changing the current system into something people hate so much that they MUST socialize in person and come off the internet in hopes birth rates of more wage slaves kicks into gear.

Loool!

I'm pretty sure this is in response to:

- UK (anti-porn) Digital Safety Act (holds platforms legally responsible for the content their users share, regardless of what their T&Cs say. Also stricter controls around restricted content shared with or to kids on platforms + websites)
- Aussie ban on social media
- Spain ban on social media
- Many EU countries considering doing the same

Etc

Discord, twitch etc have all cut their cloth selling services to kids and making a mint. They're also all saturated with smut in the dark recesses of their sites.

They're all trying not to get caught with their pants down now.

Fucking X's offices in France got raided recently due to allegations that the site was facilitating the production and propagation of child pornography.

So yeah, expect the world to start to clamp down more on these social media companies who have enjoyed their free lunch for a very long time.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Loool!

I'm pretty sure this is in response to:

- UK (anti-porn) Digital Safety Act (holds platforms legally responsible for the content their users share, regardless of what their T&Cs say. Also stricter controls around restricted content shared with or to kids on platforms + websites)
- Aussie ban on social media
- Spain ban on social media
- Many EU countries considering doing the same

Etc

Discord, twitch etc have all cut their cloth selling services to kids and making a mint. They're also all saturated with smut in the dark recesses of their sites.

They're all trying not to get caught with their pants down now.

Fucking X's offices in France got raided recently due to allegations that the site was facilitating the production and propagation of child pornography.

So yeah, expect the world to start to clamp down more on these social media companies who have enjoyed their free lunch for a very long time.

The biggest problem with many of these legislations aren't how they affect big social media companies but small ones. In the UK for example it applies to any internet service that contains user-to-user communication, meaning even a site like NeoGAF would be operating "illegally" there for not complying with these age verification measures. Even worse, some legislators (probably due to pure tech illiteracy) even wanna hold services responsible when users bypass geoblocks with VPNs or the like (in case the sites don't want or can't implement age verification).

Big tech is the least affected by all this, it's precisely smaller sites and apps that will have problems. Only hope is for them to focus on the major companies while turning a blind eye for others, which thankfully does appear to be the case in some places like Australia who developed a specific list of services that need to implement this stuff.

 

[Knight of the Round]

That, gmod, random youtube videos, probably AI generated stuff too. It ain't easy to 'fix' this because it increases the risk of the app not recognizing the actual user face.

Yup. I just did it to verify myself on YouTube. Used a fake A.I. picture of a senior male. What a joke. This doesn't protect anyone. It was clearly done to obtain user information.

 

[nikos]

Times like this when people think they're the main character.

Do you also still unlock your phone with a passcode?

 

[Revolutionary]

If it cuts down on the rampant grooming that goes on the platform (especially among FFXIV communities) then I'm for it, honestly.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Wait. Will other teens also be there?

MUSIC ️ BAND

Never gets old.

 

[Faltherion]

This sucks. I use Discord daily hardcore for work and gaming -_-

 

[grvg]

never liked that newfangled discord doohickey

kids these days, hrmph

 

[Guilty_AI]

If it cuts down on the rampant grooming that goes on the platform (especially among FFXIV communities) then I'm for it, honestly.

it will not, may even make it worse in cases the app separates by age group.

 

[Aressa]

Why not a blood sample as well?

 

[ReyBrujo]

Time to finally start using that C button in my Switch 2 (?)

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I think a lot of people expected the internet to go this way at some point, but it's just strange that it's suddenly here.

 

[Generic]

Loool!

I'm pretty sure this is in response to:

- UK (anti-porn) Digital Safety Act (holds platforms legally responsible for the content their users share, regardless of what their T&Cs say. Also stricter controls around restricted content shared with or to kids on platforms + websites)
- Aussie ban on social media
- Spain ban on social media
- Many EU countries considering doing the same

Etc

Discord, twitch etc have all cut their cloth selling services to kids and making a mint. They're also all saturated with smut in the dark recesses of their sites.

They're all trying not to get caught with their pants down now.

Fucking X's offices in France got raided recently due to allegations that the site was facilitating the production and propagation of child pornography.

So yeah, expect the world to start to clamp down more on these social media companies who have enjoyed their free lunch for a very long time.

Nice try but I won't give my ID.

 

[Generic]

The biggest problem with many of these legislations aren't how they affect big social media companies but small ones. In the UK for example it applies to any internet service that contains user-to-user communication, meaning even a site like NeoGAF would be operating "illegally" there for not complying with these age verification measures. Even worse, some legislators (probably due to pure tech illiteracy) even wanna hold services responsible when users bypass geoblocks with VPNs or the like (in case the sites don't want or can't implement age verification).

Big tech is the least affected by all this, it's precisely smaller sites and apps that will have problems. Only hope is for them to focus on the major companies while turning a blind eye for others, which thankfully does appear to be the case in some places like Australia who developed a specific list of services that need to implement this stuff.

+ UK government isn't exactly well know for protecting kids.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Is this shit for private servers?

 

[xrnzaaas]

Why not a blood sample as well?

ChatGPT Health already encourages people to send their medical records, with their good health in mind, of course.

 

[{insert code here}]

I always figured the erosion of Internet privacy and a digital ID would be pushed on us through the idea of it being done to protect kids. But how is this going to protect anyone because the predators are just going to invite their targets off platform to an app that doesn't have these restrictions. Seems like a way for Discord to just harvest more user data while claiming themselves (or trying to) a moral high ground.