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[ValiantTraveler]

It looks amazing. Finally I'll be able to play MGS4.

 

[KeepThemEyesOpen]

I actually never played Phantom Pain due to how disappointed I was with MGS4. I thought Kojima dropped the ball hard after the excellent PS1 and 2 games. Is Phantom Pain universally disliked by the fanbase? Is that why Konami is leaving it out of this Volume 2 of Master Collection?

I don't think it has anything to do with the fanbase disliking it but more to do with practicality. MGSV is already on the PC and is backwards compatible on the PS5 and Xbox so what reason would Konami have with re-releasing it? It makes sense with these older titles since they aren't on modern platforms.

 

[poodaddy]

Yep that's definitely a PS3 game running at higher resolution. Looks like very minimal changes/improvements to textures other than the resolution bump.

Fortunately, the PS3 version was far better looking than most realized, it was just so low resolution and had such bad motion clarity that it didn't look great, even at the time. I think modern displays and tech will really make this one shine.

 

[Mr Hyde]

I don't think it has anything to do with the fanbase disliking it but more to do with practicality. MGSV is already on the PC and is backwards compatible on the PS5 and Xbox so what reason would Konami have with re-releasing it? It makes sense with these older titles since they aren't on modern platforms.

I don't know. Kinda weird to omit it in a collection dedicated to Metal Gear just because it's more accessible than the other games. It's still part of the franchise and could be a great way to reintroduce it to a new audience. Not everyone has played it.

 

[KeepThemEyesOpen]

Fortunately, the PS3 version was far better looking than most realized, it was just so low resolution and had such bad motion clarity that it didn't look great, even at the time. I think modern displays and tech will really make this one shine.

I agree, MGS4 is one of the few games from that era that has graphically aged well. I'm currently playing FF13 on the PS3 and it amazes me how good looking it looks and it came out 17yrs ago.

 

[KeepThemEyesOpen]

I don't know. Kinda weird to omit it in a collection dedicated to Metal Gear just because it's more accessible than the other games. It's still part of the franchise and could be a great way to reintroduce it to a new audience. Not everyone has played it.

It seems their focus is releasing the older titles to modern platforms.

 

[Esppiral]

Have they re-recorded the pre-rendered cutscenes? Because, yes the game have som pre-rendered cutscenes, and they will lool absolutely hidous at their native resolution and framerates compared to the rest of the game running at 4k 60.

 

[Badlucktroll]

so it would be funny if it was just running on secret rcps3 code

 

[Karim]

Yep that's definitely a PS3 game running at higher resolution. Looks like very minimal changes/improvements to textures other than the resolution bump.

It's... a remaster, not a remake. Seems they have improved the resolution buffer and the texture with the perfomance. What else you expected exactly? More or less is like RdR1.

 

[TGO]

Yep that's definitely a PS3 game running at higher resolution. Looks like very minimal changes/improvements to textures other than the resolution bump.

While the difference in resolution is big, those PS3 screens here does not represent what it actually looks like and make it out to be way more blurry then it is.
The biggest difference is the blooming effect

 

[Karim]

While the difference in resolution is big, those PS3 screens here does not represent what it actually looks like and make it out to be way more blurry then it is.
The biggest difference is the blooming effect

Texture and special effects are also higher resolution in comparison. Same the shadows where on ps3 were horrid low resolution.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

50USD for this is a good price. Makes it a no brainer and perfect for me on PC and ROG Xbox.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

We need a port of this too

 

[Bojji]

While the difference in resolution is big, those PS3 screens here does not represent what it actually looks like and make it out to be way more blurry then it is.
The biggest difference is the blooming effect

Texture and special effects are also higher resolution in comparison. Same the shadows where on ps3 were horrid low resolution.

Resolution and AF seem to clean the textures A LOT. But I think they are using original assets here, they just looked like shit on PS3.

Based on RCPS3 - shadows in MGS4 scale with internal resolution, so resolution bump to 4k is fixing shadows automatically.

 

[Kerotan]

Yep that's definitely a PS3 game running at higher resolution. Looks like very minimal changes/improvements to textures other than the resolution bump.

Yeah it's a remaster which is good enough. Leave the remake till last. MGS1 next then MGS2 then remake MGS4 in about 10 years.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

If it has mgs online I might consider it.

Otherwise id rather sample piss than play this interactive movie again.

 

[Jesb]

I can't wait to play this again on steamdeck. I can't believe how good this game still looks.

 

[Liopleurodon]

MGS4 remaster looks great, and it is a good thing that it will be on modern platforms, but I do think that we are already at the point when actual remake could noticeably improve visuals.

That being said, I still hope RPCS3 will continue to develop, and evolve so that we are also able to play the original PS3 version.

 

[Bernardougf]

Better than the purple nowadays though..

Definitely...

 

[kevboard]

I hope it's optimized, really want to play this on the steam deck at 60 fps.

it's coming to Switch.
so...

should be fine on a system that's up to 4x more powerful

 

[Jesb]

I wouldn't have expected this to be so far away still. A shadow drop right at the show would have been something.

 

[Z O N E]

I am so happy this game is finally going to be free from the PS3.

It's crazy we're getting MGS4 on consoles and PC before a Bloodborne 60fps patch/remaster or a remake.

 

[Faltherion]

It's kind of wild how powerful PS3 was for its time. MGS4 was such a technical showcase. This is the only MGS I ever finished lol.

 

[Brucey]

Anything extra for ps5 pro? 120Hz mode?

 

[Three]

It's crazy we're getting MGS4 on consoles and PC before a Bloodborne 60fps patch/remaster or a remake.

Why is that crazy? It was crazy that we hadn't got a MGS4 remaster, a popular franchise, and it was stuck on PS3 with no way to play it on PS4 or PS5 (bar streaming a PS3). Not getting a remaster of a BC PS4 game is not that crazy.

Oh god I forgot everything was yellow back then. And brown.

The infamous piss filter of the times.

 

[EN250]

I am so happy this game is finally going to be free from the PS3.

It's crazy we're getting MGS4 on consoles and PC before a Bloodborne 60fps patch/remaster or a remake.

How that's crazy? Game is 18 years old already
Bloodborne is "only" 10 years...

 

[Soodanim]

The real test is RPCS3 vs PS5.

I'm sure we will see that comparison when it is released on PC.

I'm fine with this just being a port with mod cons here and there, the more recent a game gets the less that needs doing.

 

[genesisblock]

Will they retain the Cell processor reference?

 

[Gonzito]

It would really cool if they release a texture HD pack upgrade like they just did with MGS3 because I remember MGS4 having very ugly textures in some areas

 

[Z O N E]

Why is that crazy? It was crazy that we hadn't got a MGS4 remaster, a popular franchise, and it was stuck on PS3 with no way to play it on PS4 or PS5 (bar streaming a PS3). Not getting a remaster of a BC PS4 game is not that crazy.


The infamous piss filter of the times.

How that's crazy? Game is 18 years old already
Bloodborne is "only" 10 years...

Because more people have been vocal about wanting Bloodborne patched/re-released for next gen than MGS4.

Hell, I think people just accepted that we would never get MGS4 on next gen consoles and it would die on the PS3, but here we are.

 

[TGO]

Because more people have been vocal about wanting Bloodborne patched/re-released for next gen than MGS4.

Hell, I think people just accepted that we would never get MGS4 on next gen consoles and it would die on the PS3, but here we are.

Bloodborne is more of Meme than a request, while the need for a Patch/Remaster is real, a lot of people bring it up as an ongoing joke mixed in with genuine requests.
Bloodborne is readily available to play on current hardware, while MGS4 is not.
just like you pointed out, most thought it would be stuck on PS3 forever.

 

[StueyDuck]

I just wanna know if we gonna get snake smoking as it installs

 

[EN250]

Because more people have been vocal about wanting Bloodborne patched/re-released for next gen than MGS4.

Hell, I think people just accepted that we would never get MGS4 on next gen consoles and it would die on the PS3, but here we are.

Nah, people have been bitching about MGS4 exclusivity since 2008, obviously people vocal about it kept losing hope over the decade till they move on with their lives, lmao

For Bloodborne is just PCMR being impatient about the port that will happen sooner or later and Sony fans not wanting to deal with the reality that FROM is not coming back to update Bloodborne now that they have been pumping banger after banger on their own without the need of any exclusivity deal

 

[kevboard]

I just wanna know if we gonna get snake smoking as it installs

they could use that as a Shader conpilation screen on PC lol.
other than that there's no real situation where that would fit.

as bonus material maybe lol

 

[PlayStaytion]

MGS4 on Xbox? that's an insult.

 

[FoxMcChief]

50USD for this is a good price. Makes it a no brainer and perfect for me on PC and ROG Xbox.

Perfect for the Switch 2. Especially Peacewalker.

 

[kevboard]

MGS4 on Xbox? that's an insult.

indeed.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is [...]

 

[Arsic]

What are the odds MGO will be included with mgs4?

I would lose my mind.

 

[PlayStaytion]

indeed.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is [...]

I respect every culture and who do not pretend it didn't exist, even the people from their home country and pretend the culture don't exist are giving me a really hard time.

 

[Wilhelm_85]

Confirmed 60 FPS? Definitely would be interested in revisiting this one. I haven't played it since launch.

Then again, I'm not sure I have the patience to sit through all of the cutscenes anymore.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

It's kind of wild how powerful PS3 was for its time. MGS4 was such a technical showcase. This is the only MGS I ever finished lol.

Framerate was shit.

 

[Faltherion]

Framerate was shit.

It was, but I am talking about the visual fidelity and models/polygon count

 

[Thurible]

Glad it's finally not locked to the PS3. Im curious if Konami have any plans for future games for the series?

 

[Z O N E]

Bloodborne is more of Meme than a request, while the need for a Patch/Remaster is real, a lot of people bring it up as an ongoing joke mixed in with genuine requests.
Bloodborne is readily available to play on current hardware, while MGS4 is not.
just like you pointed out, most thought it would be stuck on PS3 forever.

That's the whole point, Bloodborne not getting patched or remastered is just stupid considering the cult like following it has. People gave up on hoping for MGS4 because of Konami until the collection was announced and it brought back hope.

Nah, people have been bitching about MGS4 exclusivity since 2008, obviously people vocal about it kept losing hope over the decade till they move on with their lives, lmao

For Bloodborne is just PCMR being impatient about the port that will happen sooner or later and Sony fans not wanting to deal with the reality that FROM is not coming back to update Bloodborne now that they have been pumping banger after banger on their own without the need of any exclusivity deal

Read my comment to the other person. No one really expected a MGS4 remaster/remake at all because it was Konami blue balling everyone. People just gave up and had to rely on the emulator version.

 

[kevboard]

Confirmed 60 FPS? Definitely would be interested in revisiting this one. I haven't played it since launch.

it was "60fps" on PS3 already... just that it never actually hit that unless you looked straight up into the sky lol.

Then again, I'm not sure I have the patience to sit through all of the cutscenes anymore.

thankfully they are all skipabble

 

[TGO]

That's the whole point, Bloodborne not getting patched or remastered is just stupid considering the cult like following it has. People gave up on hoping for MGS4 because of Konami until the collection was announced and it brought back hope.

People gave up hope when Konami pulled out of gaming, their return amplified hope especially with the first Master Collection, Bloodborne is mainly port begging, the original is playable on PS5 and while it's not 60fps it's pretty much like any other From software game.
The difference is this.
MGS4: locked out to everyone on modern hardware for 18 years
Bloodborne: locked out to people just without a Playstation, readily available on PSN right now.
Exception: Emulation on PC

Read my comment to the other person. No one really expected a MGS4 remaster/remake at all because it was Konami blue balling everyone. People just gave up and had to rely on the emulator version.

Should probably do the same with Bloodborne.
The biggest difference is Konami ensuring people can play the MGS series games now and they're not lost on old hardware, Sony/From has no incentive to issue another version of Bloodborne because it available already and will likely be available still on PS6.
if future hardware or updates (PSSR 2.0 permits), we won't even need a Remaster for 60fps4K with the original Bloodborne so why bother?
But I understand what you want, a Demon Souls like remake.
That'll be cool, but I don't see it happening.

 

[Faltherion]

People gave up hope when Konami pulled out of gaming, their return amplified hope especially with the first Master Collection, Bloodborne is mainly port begging, the original is playable on PS5 and while it's not 60fps it's pretty much like any other From software game.
The difference is this.
MGS4: locked out to everyone on modern hardware for 18 years
Bloodborne: locked out to people just without a Playstation, readily available on PSN right now.
Exception: Emulation on PC

Should probably do the same with Bloodborne.
The biggest difference is Konami ensuring people can play the MGS series games now and they're not lost on old hardware, Sony/From has no incentive to issue another version of Bloodborne because it available already and will likely be available still on PS6.
if future hardware or updates (PSSR 2.0 permits), we won't even need a Remaster for 60fps4K with the original Bloodborne so why bother?
But I understand what you want, a Demon Souls like remake.
That'll be cool, but I don't see it happening.

No one ever thought Sony would do a Demon's Souls remake and then launch it for the PS5 on day 1. It was wishful thinking, but it happened. Bloodborne Remake on PS6 launch would also be fantastic, by that point the game is already over 10 years old (It's going to be 11 years old in March this year) and there is a whole new breed and generation of gamers who never got to play it. Yeah, they can play it on PS5 but they are already spoiled with the looks and visuals of Elden Ring and Demons Souls remake that it would be like going backwards.

Sony is literally leaving easy money on the table if they do not do it, it just makes too much sense to do it. I think it will happen sooner or later.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

This game just needed to get out of mud resolution/cinematic FPS city.

Looks like how the game should have looked/ran from the start.

If they add VRR it will probably hit over 60fps.

 

[Jesb]

How mod friendly are these games. Maybe we'll get a mod that adds more colour.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Are we expecting things to be removed? I remember your iPod had a shitload of random music from really random artists. The copyrights I'd think would be over and done with.