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[kikkis]

Its not doing bloated PC architecture:
- No giant discrete videocard with bulky houding, RGB, convoluted power connectors on PCIe slot requiring additional 400W of power and its own complex cooling rig.
- No separate pools of RAM requiring awkward DIMM slots.
- No complicated motherboards with huge margins for mobo ODM, no RGB BS to indicate "Gamer" mobo, no Gamer tax on the controller chip for the board.
- No need for a giant 850W PSU since you only need to power one fucking SoC that has CPU and GPU inside, only requiring around 400W unit.

Magnus only requires what consoles do:
- Single unified cooling set up
- simple layout with unified RAM soldered on the mobo around a single SoC and soldered PCIe NAND plus a single m.2 slot
- Smaller PSU with single set of cables to the motherboard

A 36GB RAM base Magnus box could be made for $1000, and sold with decent margins for $1200.

3rd party Magnus with 48GB of RAM and multiple m.2 slots, RGB BS could be made for $1200 and sold for $1500 for nice proifits.

$2000 is for bloated traditional ATX mATX PC rig with lots of added complexity for upgrade path. You will not upgrade Nagnus box other than SSD.

I think it would be nice if it had lpcamm2 slot. For like cheaper and smaller workstation.

 

[splattered]

Lower spec, cheaper systems are the definition of a console and why they exist.

'We're Not Growing the Market with $1000 Consoles'
~some guy

You would think that was something that was said 50 years ago.

These companies have a history of fucking these things up haha

Microsoft more than Sony for sure but im not giving either of them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

They've both gone full retard this gen.

 

[Shogmaster]

I think it would be nice if it had lpcamm2 slot. For like cheaper and smaller workstation.

No slots of any kind for GDDR. Soldered is only option.

 

[kikkis]

No slots of any kind for GDDR. Soldered is only option.

yeah but if it had like lpddr5 and gddr7, you could extend lpddr5. But yes it seems to be gddr7 only.

 

[Shogmaster]

yeah but if it had like lpddr5 and gddr7, you could extend lpddr5. But yes it seems to be gddr7 only.

SoC gonna SoC...

Yeah, you could do slots with LPDDR5X or LPDDR6, but bandwidth is not enough for Magnus so... GDDR7.

 

[Topher]

These companies have a history of fucking these things up haha

Microsoft more than Sony for sure but im not giving either of them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

They've both gone full retard this gen.

Definitely shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt. Just wait for the prices and everything else will fall in line. The mistake in all this is those who are not understanding that price is still king in gaming.

 

[nial]

These companies have a history of fucking these things up haha

Microsoft more than Sony for sure but im not giving either of them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

They've both gone full retard this gen.

#SonyToo

 

[DyeHardX86]

Its a SoC. 5080 dont have CPUs.

Also. Its 2 chiplets. 144mm² + 264mm². Its no where as complex as doing a single 407mm² monolithic die.

It's my understanding especially with the brand new bridge die architecture that the Magnus chiplet design would be much more complex than a traditional monolithic design especially with the substrate considerations

 

[Negotiator101]

Full disclousure, im hyped for it, even if i dont buy it(maybe i will, who knows, nothing is set in stone yet) i want its specs to be officially announced, lets put some preasure both on sony and pc market too, bring back some healthy or even not so healthy competition.

This summer looks highly likely, with a smug look Phil will run the VT with the engineers talking about how it will eat monsters etc

 

[DenchDeckard]

Imagine a ROG version of this. It's gonna be like 3 grand and offer a 100mhz OC

 

[demigod]

You underestimate the amount of people without money buying things they can't really afford in this economy.

It will sell 5M. That's only a small fraction of the xbox fanboys on twitter. Especially with the xbox mindset that next year is the year they're going to be full of (possibly) false hope that "this gen is the gen MS deliver". The same applied to the Series consoles. Much like it-it may not have very long legs, might crash and burn in later years with very few sales once the diehards fans have bought it near launch year or so. It will sell initially though and I suspect blow past 5M.

I really doubt they will sell that much. Folks like Timdog has already jump shipped.

 

[David_Android]

MLID? Is this a joke?

 

[Lagspike_exe]

To be honest I don't follow Xbox news that much so I don't know about details of different versions.

Regardless, this will be much more expensive than PS6 and PS6 will be much more expensive than PS5.





AT LEAST 1000$, looks more looking at specs (1500?). PS6 alone looks close enough to 1k with specs it have, and they look far cheaper than what this thing will have.

Yeah, this looks like $1,500 since MS probably is not doing razer-blade any more.

 

[Moses85]

2027 is Year of Xbox

Since 2020

 

[midnightAI]

Its basically a botique pc at this point like a Alienware type pc with custom parts that are hard to upgrade. Alot of people prefer prebuilt pcs vs building their own still.

I guess they are going for the same demographic the steambox is aiming for albeit with the additional ability to play all xbox games. The end game for all these companies is to have us rent server time to play

They do, but most people like to have the choice of upgrading in the future even if it's just the graphics card or ram, having an APU means you can't upgrade the graphics card and soldered ram means not being able to upgrade that either. That's the benefit of these expensive gaming PC's, you do still have that option.

 

[Team Andromeda]

My point is, I doubt anyone (well, many) will be spending this amount of money on a console, power matters little of your biggest competitor that is currently trouncing you on the market is selling their next console at half the price you are

If people want something, they'll find the money. It's not like console gaming was cheap in the 80's and overlooking your wind-up drivel.
People pay loads for phones, even ones that aren't trouncing the competition.

The PC gamer and console gamer are not the same.

 

[midnightAI]

If people want something, they'll find the money. It's not like console gaming was cheap in the 80's and overlooking your wind-up drivel.
People pay loads for phones, even ones that aren't trouncing the competition.

The PC gamer and console gamer are not the same.

I wish people would stop comparing phones to consoles, a device we use MANY times a day, every day, a device we have on us all day, a communications device, a device that has many functions, a device most get a contract for, a device that you can get very cheap or pay a fortune for (so choices), it's a stupid comparison that holds no weight.

We'll see, but I've mentioned why I don't think people will buy a +$1000 console from MS (and that part is as important as the price) and very few reasons why people will (POWAAAR seems to be the only one)

(Also, why do you consider my responses as 'wind-up drivel'?)