Ironbunny
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Hasnt this been out for years now?
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New Epstein Emails: Elon Musk Repeatedly Asked To Visit Epstein Island
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Hasnt this been out for years now?
Celcius
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That was a different book, this is the original 1997 book which was auctioned off in 2024.
The other book that got leaked was from way later on (2004-2005).
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Doomtrain
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> Incredibly somber subject matter
> Posted by: "Freddie Mercury's Bush"
The internet is a weird place.
violence
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She doesn't have access to all her expensive botox shit anymore, or sucking the blood of infants to regenerate her vitality in prison.
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Hero of Spielberg
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It was the political equivalent of 'jumping the shark'.
OccasionalPoster
Member
Good point, they're sensationalizing things to make people think twice and muddy the narrative.
Or are they?
Unfortunatecookie
Member
I think your thinking is accurate.
Grildon Tundy
Member
The nose shape change is interesting. Can anyone explain that one? I wouldn't think camera focal length, lack of cosmetic surgery upkeep, weight gain,, or aging would do that.
Could be shading and sculpting make-up to give the illusion of a thinner nose.
While these things seem odd in still photos, in motion, and especially when meeting face to face, I just can't believe it's possible to insert a double of such a high profile person. Matching the voice, mannerisms, height, that's all really hard.
Epstein is buried somewhere, right? Presumably he could be exhumed, ohhh, I see that he was cremated. How convenient. I thought Jews were generally against cremation.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Go Thomas Massie! Expose these fools
edit: Can you link to this tweet? I can't seem to find it
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RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
so thats why Trump is going to war with Iran
Grildon Tundy
Member
If someone were to call out that it's an imposter, people would probably react like they did to this lady:
And people in-the-know might have an incentive to convince others there's nothing amiss.
Smiggs
Member
What's the story behind this video?
Grildon Tundy
Member
From what I heard, she thought one of the guys near her on the plane shape-shifted. Later chalked up to mental stress and she recanted. Lots of hearsay around it with no proof, e.g., people saying a since-deleted video showed the guy looked abnormal or that the lady who recanted wasn't the same lady in the original video.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a skit. Tons of videos online use airplane sets for skits.
Oh, I can believe that it's real. Lady is probably hopped up on meds/drugs/booze for the flight and had a hallucination.
NickFire
Member
If I had a dollar for every time someone in Congress, who hates Trump, made shit up about what they knew, read, saw, etc., I'd be worth more than Elon. If this guy has receipts he should show them instead of teasing them. No one wants a compromised POTUS. But a lot of us are also sick of the lies and remember Russia Russia Russia all too well.
Svalr93
Neo Member
At this point I'll be 537 years old before they release all of the documents.
Apparently you don't and should actually go and read the Mueller reporter and bipartisan investigations in Congress instead of just listening to what Trump tells you.
It was Republicans decision in Congress to not pursue the case against him that's why nothing came out of it not due to a lack of evidence and then he pardoned people who had colluded with Russian agents and been sent to prison for it.
Apparently you don't and should actually go and read the Mueller reporter and bipartisan investigations in Congress instead of just listening to what Trump tells you.
It was Republicans decision in Congress to not pursue the case against him that's why nothing came out of it not due to a lack of evidence and then he pardoned people who had colluded with Russian agents and been sent to prison for it.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
The Algorithm is entirely at Elon Musk's command, and Xitter continues to have an active and dedicated userbase. What you see is the manifestation of mass stupidity and charlatans that are gaming it for money. Can't blame the algorithm like it's in a vacuum.
This will result in no charges let alone a conviction, but yes, surprise surprise, almost any woman associated with Epstein and not named Ghislaine Maxwell was presumptively given the "victim" label.
Unless Luna has more evidence than 2 rounds of DOJ and FBI staff before her, this is yet more political grifting slop that Massie is serving up.
Like who's actually buying this shit at this point? He's doing this on a weekly basis now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hero of Spielberg
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Seeing some action from Europe … are the dominoes falling?
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Probably right, but they already stripped him of the prince title in 2025, so they've made it clear where they stand on this one.
Chittagong
Gold Member
It's hard to convey to people outside UK how huge this is as an event - arresting a royal family member is just not something that happens
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Touch the side of your nose and smile. As your smile lifts your face you'll probably feel the side of your nose lift.
Now think about a photo that compares you smiling with one of you with a relaxed face. Now have those photos be years apart.
I'm not saying that is more plausible than Ghislaine Maxwell living in secret freedom while a body double spends years in prison, but it's worth thinking about.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
It does happen from time to time. ...Once every 400 years or so (Charles I, 1647).
Wildebeest
Member
Only the King has protection from prosecution. There are reasons for why this makes logical sense since the monarch is the person who issues passports and driving licenses and issuing one to themself is more confusing to lawyers than dealing with a police man who arrests them for driving without a license. If you are talking about who seems to be effectively protected from prosecution rather than who is protected by law then the USA seems to have a fuck ton of immune Kings compared to the UK.
StabbyStabStabStabStab
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Interesting to see where this goes and how complicit the royals were in covering up the dirty prince's indescretions. OH HOW THEY SHALL TUMBLE.... maybe.
Smiggs
Member
Even if more of the family were complicit, they're gonna pin it all on Andrew and let him take the fall. No way they'll let any of this stink touch the rest of the family.
Randall365
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Technically he was stripped of all his royal titles, so its more like that bit in Robocop where the old man fires Dick Jones and then Robocop machine guns him to death out of the window of a skyscraper.
Still - it's big news - I don't know how to react!
I don't think anyone's surprised that Epstein was putting on these trips for people - but it is surprising that the primary motivation appears to be obtaining kompromat to extract secrets/co-operation - hence this arrest. Anyone prominently named in those files is most likely compromised. Mandelson will be next.
I suppose it explains why they had to kill him and Maxwell is suddenly removed from the main prison population, so she can fall down the stairs at some point.
All speculation of course.
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StabbyStabStabStabStab
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Yes I think you're right unfortuantely. I think what will come out though will be the various ways and means the royals have attempted to cover up his follies, be that through paying people off, threats to journalists etc. which will erode whatever endearment the public have left for them. They've known for years after all...
ZehDon
Gold Member
Arresting a member of the royal family - even a disgraced one - is history being made.
Reading up on it, Andrew got pinched because of leaking documents as Trade Envoy. Seen this compared to nabbing Al Capone on Tax Evasion. But, getting Andrew on the hook is an important step. He doesn't strike me as the type to do his time in silence, so in my eyes, one of two things happens: Andrew exonerates Trump in quid pro quo with the corrupt US Admin to the benefit of the current UK Admin (Starmer needs a big win at home), or, Andrew gives up whatever the prosecutors want on whatever he knows for a deal on his own.
Windom Earle
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Andrew being arrested is a good thing but in the bigger picture he is just a pawn. Les Wexner walks free while he should get shipped to Guantanamo yesterday. Same goes for Ghislaine by the way. Her getting pampered in Club Fed is insane.
Randall365
Member
I don't think Ghislaine has been moved for any reason other than the fact that two suicides in maximum security prisons would be too suspicious. I don't think she knows anything about who organised this scheme - only Epstein and the people behind him did and there will be no evidence left. What she does have is details on the people who were compromised by it and offered "help" to Epstein in some way - hence why she has to go.
NickFire
Member
I do not doubt for a second that more people should be in jail. But does everyone here understand that these documents would not be enough to try people over in the US? Documents themselves are hearsay unless properly authenticated and deemed admissible / relevant / etc. And even if admitted emails from Epstein alone aren't going to lead to convictions beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now Congress is of course free to hold hearings and investigating these docs, make dudes squirm by having to choose between testifying or taking the 5th, etc., etc. And it's possible more evidence would come out during those hearings to help use in prosecutions. It won't actually happen for two reasons, one being the bad guys taking the 5th, and the other being that most committee hearings seem to be auditions as opposed to anything else. But they can if they want, and always could have.
DOJ could convene grand jury proceedings to dig up truth as well. Same issues with the 5th would arise. And in DOJs case I'm pretty sure it's already happened anyway. I've seen headlines about judges not unsealing grand jury records.
Long story short, I completely agree with anyone who thinks there's so much smoke there's bound to be fire. I agree with anyone who thinks he wasn't trafficking young women for just himself and others deserve punishment too. But if anyone thinks you just convict people based on email claims by a dead pedophile, well, good luck with that.
Bojji
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OccasionalPoster
Member
Exactly, he's their sacrificial lamb.
We know they're all in on it.
This is also a headline to satiate the world, "look we put another big name way, happy now?" Go back to watching the olympics.
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Baemono
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm sure he's using the C word pretty liberally in private conversations.
P:axMagellanic
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The bitch suddenly turned into some russian Babushka lol
I don't know the legal system in the US, but Andrew has been arrested, not charged with anything yet. This grants the police access to him, his phones, email servers etc so they can aim to attribute what we've seen directly to him, and find more.
If he does get charged with an offence it will be months away, but an arrest is a means to get the evidence to allow that. Surely something similar exists in the US?
NickFire
Member
No. You need probably cause to arrest someone research their stuff here in the US. Also, someone else mentioned it was unrelated why Andre was arrested. That seems like a stretch to me. But maybe people in the UK know for sure?
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Have they arrested him yet?
I kinda want a YEARS LONG stalemate where he ran off to some lonely castle in a mist shrouded part of Wales, pulled up the draw bridge, and now the UK police are standing out side the moat trying to talk him down but they have no procedure for starting a siege. Seems the most brit thing possible.
I kinda want a YEARS LONG stalemate where he ran off to some lonely castle in a mist shrouded part of Wales, pulled up the draw bridge, and now the UK police are standing out side the moat trying to talk him down but they have no procedure for starting a siege. Seems the most brit thing possible.