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Killzone died for this...
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Radical_3d
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Now we're talking!
Its a pity that everything has to be open world now but after Killzone 2's bland CoD weapons and Killzone 3's ending I can't say I miss the saga. But I'd probably will play a new instalment before an open world slop.
RafterXL
Member
We're still pretending these are real numbers?
Emmy Ator Best
Member
FauxXeno
Neo Member
last official sales was at 40mil in nov , i doubt it's sold 8 mil in the last few month ... that's some number fudging
Cakeboxer
Member
There's nothing wrong with bundles when the hardware is available. Forbidden West on the other hand benefited greatly from the fact that hardly any standalone PS5 consoles were available.
Emmy Ator Best
Member
In my opinion a bundle is fine when you're bundling one game. But when you're bundling multiple games like in those example it kinda feels like you're dumping e-waste.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I'm not worried about you finding my hyperbolic or if you don't take me seriously.
I try to only talk from experience;
Killzone is the very definition of average. In fact, from personal experience having put a lot of time in to a lot of popular FPS and Third Person Shooter games from the N64 onwards (Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War, Battlefield, Battlefront, Resistance Fall of Man, Destiny and probably more that I am forgetting right now) Killzone actually sits comfortably at the very bottom of that list. Bland gunplay, bland gameplay, boring stories and objectives.
Yes, I find it mediocre. To be honest, I find it a poor effort from Sony but I'm not going to call it a poor game considering what exists out there.
Horizon was a step up from Killzone, but still a very safe formulaic game from a gameplay POV, and pretty poor from a story POV. Again from the open world games that I've played, which include games from franchises like GTA, TLoZ, AC, Far Cry if you were to ask me what Horizon did well in comparison or even what it excelled at I wouldn't be able to list any or many valid points. Mediocre.
That is my legitimate view on the studio having played all of their games from Killzone 1 onwards (apart from the latest Horizon game). Disagree all you like but mine isn't a view born from ignorance, and as this is my view on their end product how am I going to think that GG are a good or great studio.
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Paasei
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Killzone was never on PC, so I don't really care about it. FPS games are nigh unplayable with a controller and I'm very impressed by all of you that do play these type of games on a console.
Funnily enough I do have these games, even a nice steel box edition for part 2 and got Shadow Fall as a launch game.
Funnily enough I do have these games, even a nice steel box edition for part 2 and got Shadow Fall as a launch game.
Cakeboxer
Member
As always, it depends on the price. If the games in the bundle are being sold for under 50% of the current price, I agree with you. But if they're still around ~70–80% of the current price, then only people who really want them will buy. I just can't remember the prices anymore.
Avid Reading Horse
Member
Hear me out... LEGO Killzone Trilogy.
GinSama
Member
The aesthetic of KZ2 was freaking cool, I still liked Killzone
Shadow fall, although visually was missing the tones of 2 and 3. It was ok, I just didn't like that they went with much bigger maps...
But happy to still have all the games for the PS3 and PS4.
Never tried the psp one .
Saying Killzone 2 and 3 still looks really impressive and I still play several times per year.
Shadow fall, although visually was missing the tones of 2 and 3. It was ok, I just didn't like that they went with much bigger maps...
But happy to still have all the games for the PS3 and PS4.
Never tried the psp one .
Saying Killzone 2 and 3 still looks really impressive and I still play several times per year.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I never played Killzone, but from the looks of it it looked very cool and awesome.
But we can't forget that this is modern day Guerilla:
Whatever "edge" they used to have has been completely polished away for the benefit of overly sensitive woke people. I would dread seeing what modern day Guerilla would do to a Killzone game.
But we can't forget that this is modern day Guerilla:
Whatever "edge" they used to have has been completely polished away for the benefit of overly sensitive woke people. I would dread seeing what modern day Guerilla would do to a Killzone game.
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L*][*N*K
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Those are the numbers we have so Unless you have personally audited their sales records those are the numbers we go with
Kupfer
Member
This pretty much nails it.
RSMan
Member
Resistance was also amazing.
60 player multiplayer and a campaign that was so good with large scale battles.
RafterXL
Member
You can go with whatever you want, but when you tout nearly 50 million in sales without any context you're pretending that they really sold 50 million copies of these games. The amount of bundles and $10 upgrades that are counted as "sales" is significant and every time people brag on this series they continently leave that out.
Sticks
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Whatever "edge" they used to have has been completely polished away for the benefit of overly sensitive woke people. I would dread seeing what modern day Guerilla would do to a Killzone game.
If modern games couldn't be more obvious lol. But its good to know that when the apocalypse hits earth and is taken over by robots, us men can sit back and relax while the women do all the hard work.
LakeOf9
Member
I played it back in 2005, it was garbage
It was a mediocre FPS that only got attention because PS players had no awareness of the much better shooters that were available on Xbox and PC
Lokaum D+
Member
This Horizon screens hurt my eyes, the guy nipple....I never played Killzone, but from the looks of it it looked very cool and awesome.
But we can't forget that this is modern day Guerilla:
Whatever "edge" they used to have has been completely polished away for the benefit of overly sensitive woke people. I would dread seeing what modern day Guerilla would do to a Killzone game.
Also, Killzone is a war zone with incredible atmosphere, Gray/Brown full of smoke, debris and ppl firing at each other, its the most atmospheric war game i ever played, its a shame that it died for this agenda game.
i miss the manly games made for men
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grvg
Member
To be honest, I feel like the Sony third party ips get worse generationally.
I do remember when Killzone came out swinging as a halo killer and, erm, didn't succeed... And then the Killzone 2 e3 prerender came out. I also remember playing it on a 12 inch crt in the back room of my parents house at age 13 or something. Good times. Killzone is far more interesting than Horizon.
Perhaps Ubislop is just the natural level that things settle at? Water finds its own level and whatnot. The market spoke, and it wants Aloy.
If they just made a game where we actually play as the Helghast, I'd get it day one.
I do remember when Killzone came out swinging as a halo killer and, erm, didn't succeed... And then the Killzone 2 e3 prerender came out. I also remember playing it on a 12 inch crt in the back room of my parents house at age 13 or something. Good times. Killzone is far more interesting than Horizon.
Perhaps Ubislop is just the natural level that things settle at? Water finds its own level and whatnot. The market spoke, and it wants Aloy.
If they just made a game where we actually play as the Helghast, I'd get it day one.
Radical_3d
Member
I was going to answer "I'm not a fan of the sequels but there no doubt the atmosph…" then 30 seconds in appears Rico and I'm like… oh yes… it wasn't only the new guns what I hated about this game. It holds fantastic, tho. Not one inch of better resolution but 60fps and it could pass as a remaster.
Roman Empire
Member
I love Killzone but it didn't have mass appeal. Guerrilla Games started to find a footing with the franchise with KZ 2 and 3 but then Shadow Fall was a travesty of PS4 launch title, maybe with more time it could have been better. But it is what it is.
Horizon has broader appeal, but it only took the second game for Guerrilla to fuck it up with politics and all. Not that casuals care, going by sales numbers.
Horizon has broader appeal, but it only took the second game for Guerrilla to fuck it up with politics and all. Not that casuals care, going by sales numbers.
Lokaum D+
Member
Rico is the "brainless shot first dude bro" that has been appearing in every war movie since ever, he is not a great character but i m accustomed to his depiction in media, the gameplay is awesome, first game that it made you feel the weight of a fully geared soldier in combat, for some is a flaw, but i really did liked, but the atmosphere and level of detail in this game is some of the best even by today standards imo.
the ragdoll in this game is also one of the best in gaming.
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Radical_3d
Member
I agree with you in everything. But the presence of Rico is so constant and so annoying. I just can't.
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Venom Snake
Member
It died because of Shadow Fall. Horizon was a better game, but it is running out of fuel.
Time to move on.
Time to move on.
Kikorin
Member
Horizon series is super average and derivative, but Killzone was bad too tbh.
Graphically it was awesome, but outside of Killzone 2 that had some good things and the PS Vita one that was really good, the series was nothing exciting.
Guerilla are just not that good as developers and should concentrate on expand decima engine for the other teams and helps PlayStation studios on the tech side.
Graphically it was awesome, but outside of Killzone 2 that had some good things and the PS Vita one that was really good, the series was nothing exciting.
Guerilla are just not that good as developers and should concentrate on expand decima engine for the other teams and helps PlayStation studios on the tech side.
Fbh
Member
I loved Killzone 2 and 3. I probably even liked and played Shadowfall more than most people here.
I would love for the franchise to come back, the gameplay had a lot of room for improvement but the world, visuals and even the music were always great. The story in the games kinda sucked but the Killzone universe actually has a really interesting backstory and lore that could be explored in more detail to make something really memorable.
But lets be real, Killzone died because it was never that popular and it never sold particularly well. And when Guerilla finally made something new they found a lot more success with it.
The only thing that died for Hunters Gatherings is our chances of getting the next single player Horizon game before like 2028-9.
I would love for the franchise to come back, the gameplay had a lot of room for improvement but the world, visuals and even the music were always great. The story in the games kinda sucked but the Killzone universe actually has a really interesting backstory and lore that could be explored in more detail to make something really memorable.
But lets be real, Killzone died because it was never that popular and it never sold particularly well. And when Guerilla finally made something new they found a lot more success with it.
The only thing that died for Hunters Gatherings is our chances of getting the next single player Horizon game before like 2028-9.
March Climber
Member
Just wait until PS4 nostalgia arrives in 5 or so years lol.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Member
Killzone died for this....
Fake
Member
Gow 2018 + Ragnarok sold 1,4b.
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terintamel
Member
All I want is for Sony to port all the Killzone games (maybe just 2 thru Shadow Fall) to PSVR2. Killzone 3 already supported motion controls and Stereo 3d. Release them one at a time and charge $30 a piece and I would rebuy them. Don't even need to update the graphics at all IMHO. Maybe just a texture resolution bump for the PS3 Killzone.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Thats a different story whether they get it right. They can at least try to keep the tone.
I still want them to try, Remaster would be cheaper than creating a new KZ, much cheaper. And for MP. Just Expand the MP, add KZ3 MP stuff and some added, updated modes.
If done right, they get a decent FPS and another MP game
Afterwards they can think of sequels again. First bring back the Killzone safely lol
Also do the for Resistance/Uncharted 1 and do the same. New expanded MP mode for them, and remake for SP fans. Much cheaper than creating sequels and doesnt require the original teams as much. Just some safe guarding.
Of course has to be done right.
Sony has billions, they need to spend that money for us
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Kokoloko85
Member
They should do another one
diffusionx
Gold Member
lol this is NOT happening, ever. Look at what Microsoft is doing with that pointless Halo remake. No multi whatsoever. They want to funnel people into their new games not have them playing old multi and having to maintain it forever and compete with their new games (MS learned this the hard way with Halo MCC/Shitfinite/5).
People need to just move on.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Im not saying its gonna happen. I just think they should do it.
Halo remake is different to the Metroid Prime remaster, its not a complete change, doesnt require years of work by a full studio.
Yes they want to funnel people into new games, but if someone isnt a fan of the genre there not gonna jump in. This just gives more games and options for fans.
They dont have a FPS game like Killzone. They have Destiny and Marathon, not the same kind of fans or gameplay.
If it sells, and has some people playing it for a couple of years, makes some money, what difference does it make if its new or old.
They dont need every game to be billion dollar sales. Some people are not gonna play HD2, Marathon or Fortnite no matter what, but they will play simple MP games.
Plus Remaster, that sells 3+ million, why not. Not say they will, but its a good move for fans
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