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New Epstein Emails: Elon Musk Repeatedly Asked To Visit Epstein Island

When are we firing up the wood chippers and hanging these pedophiles and sympathizers? I need to use some of my PTO up from work.
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people are too busy arguing with each other, as usual.
 
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Ignore the hammy puppet and the tad cheesy setup, just watch..



And did Tarantino really say that? What in the actual fuck.. :messenger_neutral:

Man, fuck all these 'people'

I know this is completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I am really really REALLY getting fucking tired of the self censorship being imposed on youtube and just videos online in general. It's not even for actual swear words. This video didn't censor the word "shit"...no it censors the word "sex". Sex is not a fucking dirty word. And even with more unsetting words like "rape", I've actually read that victims find it disgusting when people try to sugar coat words like rape with words like "grape" instead, because it makes it sound less serious. This shit needs to stop. That word is meant to be unpleasant.
 
I know this is completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I am really really REALLY getting fucking tired of the self censorship being imposed on youtube and just videos online in general. It's not even for actual swear words. This video didn't censor the word "shit"...no it censors the word "sex". Sex is not a fucking dirty word. And even with more unsetting words like "rape", I've actually read that victims find it disgusting when people try to sugar coat words like rape with words like "grape" instead, because it makes it sound less serious. This shit needs to stop. That word is meant to be unpleasant.
Yep

It's the infantilization of society. And the ironic thing? It was probably a woman who ordered it as it hurts feelings 🤷‍♂️
 
I know this is completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I am really really REALLY getting fucking tired of the self censorship being imposed on youtube and just videos online in general. It's not even for actual swear words. This video didn't censor the word "shit"...no it censors the word "sex". Sex is not a fucking dirty word. And even with more unsetting words like "rape", I've actually read that victims find it disgusting when people try to sugar coat words like rape with words like "grape" instead, because it makes it sound less serious. This shit needs to stop. That word is meant to be unpleasant.

Yup. A couple of days ago I spoke with my grandma whom is 93, she went through WW2 as a child and she said she never knew an era in which people are so sensitive than this era. She is happy she's still healthy and alive but she hates this era
 
Like clockwork. "Forget the Epstein files. Heres a UFO."

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I know this is completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I am really really REALLY getting fucking tired of the self censorship being imposed on youtube and just videos online in general. It's not even for actual swear words. This video didn't censor the word "shit"...no it censors the word "sex". Sex is not a fucking dirty word. And even with more unsetting words like "rape", I've actually read that victims find it disgusting when people try to sugar coat words like rape with words like "grape" instead, because it makes it sound less serious. This shit needs to stop. That word is meant to be unpleasant.

They do that to avoid demonetization. YT (others probably as well) will flag the video and don't allow them to make money on ads if algorithm find it "offensive".
 
So when is the US going to hold its wealthy elite responsible?
I guess it shouldn't be so surprising when the sex offender in chief is president.
Precisely.

What we're witnessing is a multi-agency attempt at covering up the evil actions of the president of the United States and his rich friends. If it were John from accounting or Charlie the local crack dealer, then it would be a trivial cover-up. But since it's the most popular faces on Earth on a daily basis, no chance of getting people to ignore it.

I'm pleasantly surprised by what I'm seeing, i.e., people of all political leanings not buying the horseshit from the White House or Elon Musk. Pleasantly surprised.
 
I still can't believe Pam Bondi is an actual real human being and is operating at such a high level lmfao, how is this real life.
When you promote someone way above what they could possibly reach by merit, you get someone 1000% loyal who does anything you say without question. Losing that position would be impossible to recover from.
 
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When you promote someone way above what they could possibly reach by merit, you get someone 1000% loyal who does anything you say without question. Losing that position would be impossible to recover from.
On paper she's far more qualified than most of the administration including the President lol
 
Precisely.

What we're witnessing is a multi-agency attempt at covering up the evil actions of the president of the United States and his rich friends. If it were John from accounting or Charlie the local crack dealer, then it would be a trivial cover-up. But since it's the most popular faces on Earth on a daily basis, no chance of getting people to ignore it.

I'm pleasantly surprised by what I'm seeing, i.e., people of all political leanings not buying the horseshit from the White House or Elon Musk. Pleasantly surprised.
Trump has had not just the kitchen sink, but the WHOLE DAMNED HOUSE thrown at him since 2015. These files were in Bidens hands for 4 years, and have gone though so many folks on both sides of the aisle that if there was any real Trump smoking gun it would have been leaked. Alllllll the dirt on Trump has been aired, all the women of significance have come forward. There is nothing left on that guy. Same with Bill Clinton, I think. These guys are pussy hounds for sure, but I think they stayed on the adult side of things.
 
Trump has had not just the kitchen sink, but the WHOLE DAMNED HOUSE thrown at him since 2015. These files were in Bidens hands for 4 years, and have gone though so many folks on both sides of the aisle that if there was any real Trump smoking gun it would have been leaked. Alllllll the dirt on Trump has been aired, all the women of significance have come forward. There is nothing left on that guy. Same with Bill Clinton, I think. These guys are pussy hounds for sure, but I think they stayed on the adult side of things.
You sure have the other kind of TDS lol
 
Trump has had not just the kitchen sink, but the WHOLE DAMNED HOUSE thrown at him since 2015. These files were in Bidens hands for 4 years, and have gone though so many folks on both sides of the aisle that if there was any real Trump smoking gun it would have been leaked. Alllllll the dirt on Trump has been aired, all the women of significance have come forward. There is nothing left on that guy. Same with Bill Clinton, I think. These guys are pussy hounds for sure, but I think they stayed on the adult side of things.
The only thing that it tells you if Biden actually had access to the files (and they weren't truly sealed because of Maxwell's case) is that he was either involved with Epstein too, or was covering for those that were. There's no scenario here that makes the current president innocent. Just look at the lies he's said about the files not existing just last summer!
 
The only thing that it tells you if Biden actually had access to the files (and they weren't truly sealed because of Maxwell's case) is that he was either involved with Epstein too, or was covering for those that were. There's no scenario here that makes the current president innocent. Just look at the lies he's said about the files not existing just last summer!
I can believe that he is trying to protect other people and also believe that he himself has no direct involvement in the worst epstein stuff.

And was we have seen with all these files already, you can just pull a few out about a specific person and no one else needs be mentioned. So if there are emails between epstein and trump talking about popping middle school virgins, much less actual video or photographic footage of the acts, that could ABSOLUTELY have been leaked and the Bill Gates, Stephen Hawkings, and CEO's of the world be completely left out. That narrative that its "all or nothing" is total bullshit because we are seeing right now that it can be piecemealed out and if it was all "see how sick Trump is" then at least half the country would just stop there and ask no more questions.

Things like that birthday card Trump drew the naked woman on are embarrassing, for sure, even if not illegal. I can see how he might want that stuff left out.
 
Biden, like most Presidents, didn't take full control over the DOJ. That's a Trump thing, and it's projection at best to suggest that's how it's always worked.

But the "smoking gun" concept isn't necessarily true either.

Why does it matter? Trump was great friends with Epstein (his own words) and knew he "liked them young" (paraphrasing his own words)... he's obviously at the very least been aware of Epstein's proclivities, partied with him, etc. He should be outcast and shamed and impeached. Hell he never should have been President, he brags about sexual assault.

He just didn't associate much with Epstein during the timespan the FBI was heavily investigating Epstein.

This country is rotten, and it's a bunch of people who voted for a rapey fuckwit huckster who was famous for shafting small business while enriching himself who are constantly calling the other side "sick and deranged."
 
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It's hard to believe he's not involved when they go through such big effort to redact so many files and he was besties with Epstein.
Like he wasn't just someone who attended one of his parties at some point he was very close friends and there's videos of him making a lot of very sussy baka jokes about Epstein and young girls and the whole '' our secret '' thing and being called the dog that didn't bark or whatever it was forgot the expression.
Remember this is the '' grab em by the pussy '' guy and there has been almost 30 women accusing him of everything from groping to rape and he was held liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
The guy was involved with the Russian Mafia when he was younger too and who knows after that if he still is, he pardoned someone who cooperated with Russian agents to influence the election only reason he wasn't convicted is because Republicans in congress refuse to hold anyone in their party responsible for anything.
Even if he didn't actually do anything personally which I doubt, I still think he 110% knew about it it's very hard to believe that he didn't and it also doesn't change that he's clearly not a very good '' respecter of women ''.

In regards to Biden one of the main things he ran on and was very vocal about wanting to do was '' restoring order '' and make the presidents word matter again, he was simply just following the law in regards to the Epstein files.
Same as how he was following the law with the Afghanistan pullout because that was Trumps order ( which he negotiated with the Taliban WITHOUT communicating with the Afghan government who were taken with their pants down, and released thousands of Taliban fighters without any conditions who later took over the country.. ).
Biden just allowed it to transpire as Trump planned what little planning there was, and people blame him for it because it happened under him.
You can argue he should've acted differently same with the Epstein files and that he should've released them anyway.
But it makes total sense why he didn't given that he was essentially trying to clean up after Trumps first term and restore faith in the country and presidential norms.

Biden, like most Presidents, didn't take full control over the DOJ. That's a Trump thing, and it's projection at best to suggest that's how it's always worked.

But the "smoking gun" concept isn't necessarily true either.

Why does it matter? Trump was great friends with Epstein (his own words) and knew he "liked them young" (paraphrasing his own words)... he's obviously at the very least been aware of Epstein's proclivities, partied with him, etc. He should be outcast and shamed and impeached. Hell he never should have been President, he brags about sexual assault.

He just didn't associate much with Epstein during the timespan the FBI was heavily investigating Epstein.

This country is rotten, and it's a bunch of people who voted for a rapey fuckwit huckster who was famous for shafting small business while enriching himself who are constantly calling the other side "sick and deranged."

Lets be real here the reason it matters is because people don't want to admit that they voted for a very not good person.
People don't want to admit that they got scammed, again.
 
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Svalr93 Svalr93 Yeah Biden and the dems have had no spine whatsoever about anything the last 20 years. But to me trying to maintain the typical decorum and rule of law >>>>>> some arrogant fuck firing half the government and installing sycophants at every position
 
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Svalr93 Svalr93 Yeah Biden and the dems have had no spine whatsoever about anything the last 20 years. But to me trying to maintain the typical decorum and rule of law >>>>>> some arrogant fuck firing half the government and installing sycophants at every position
Maintaining a rule of law is a comical inaccuracy at best but closer to delusion when discussing Biden or Democrats. Both parties ignore the constitution.
 
Maintaining a rule of law is a comical inaccuracy at best but closer to delusion when discussing Biden or Democrats. Both parties ignore the constitution.

In what way?
Even if you can find some minor example here and there I think you'd have to be absurdly disingenuous to pretend as if they're even remotely comparable.
Trump doing a mass pardon of people who attempted to overthrow the government and went around with nooses and zip ties and had built gallows outside looking for Pence and Pelosi yelling '' hang Mike Pence '' is like a trillion times worse than anything Biden or the Dems have done, or uh pardoning drug lords for some reason.
He's still floating around the idea of a pardon for Maxwell and refuses to say that he won't do it.

Meanwhile people tried to drag Biden because he pardoned his family, when Trump was saying that he was going to go after them and that's why Biden did it so their lives wouldn't be a living nightmare because of the most petty party and president in the universe.
The two are not the same at all even if you want to argue that the former was also an abuse of power.
 
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Apologize if I brought too much "politics" to the thread, not trying to go down that road so much. I'm just so disgusted with what's been going on it's hard not to talk about it.
 
In what way?
Even if you can find some minor example here and there I think you'd have to be absurdly disingenuous to pretend as if they're even remotely comparable.
Trump doing a mass pardon of people who attempted to overthrow the government and went around with nooses and zip ties and had built gallows outside looking for Pence and Pelosi yelling '' hang Mike Pence '' is like a trillion times worse than anything Biden or the Dems have done, or uh pardoning drug lords for some reason.
He's still floating around the idea of a pardon for Maxwell and refuses to say that he won't do it.

Meanwhile people tried to drag Biden because he pardoned his family, when Trump was saying that he was going to go after them and that's why Biden did it so their lives wouldn't be a living nightmare because of the most petty party and president in the universe.
The two are not the same at all even if you want to argue that the former was also an abuse of power.
Biden's whole term was going after political opponents and colluding with big tech to silence anyone not on board with his administration's "narrative".

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot I don't like about Trump or spineless Republicans. I find it sad and amusing how Democrats used to be free speech and antiwar absolutists(self-proclaimed anyway) in my childhood to completely flip flopping and being the opposite but Republicans tried to put a facade on that they were antiwar and free speech for a bit but that was a farce as well.

Everything you see in cable news is fake. The show they put on to make you think you have a choice but they all go out and have dinners after the show and are buddy buddy. We've tried both parties and they both failed with terrible policies.
 
Trump has had not just the kitchen sink, but the WHOLE DAMNED HOUSE thrown at him since 2015. These files were in Bidens hands for 4 years, and have gone though so many folks on both sides of the aisle that if there was any real Trump smoking gun it would have been leaked. Alllllll the dirt on Trump has been aired, all the women of significance have come forward. There is nothing left on that guy. Same with Bill Clinton, I think. These guys are pussy hounds for sure, but I think they stayed on the adult side of things.
Or get this: maybe it's not partisan and Biden's buddies are in it as well. It's entirely possible that Biden was/is also a corrupt leader who conveniently ignored the Epstein files while he was in office.

Pedophile billionaires who gave a bunch of money to both democrats and republicans would 1000% want the Epstein files to stay sealed. Revealing that Trump was also raping girls would require a full reveal of all Epstein-related documents, and if democrats -- who took a bunch of money from pedophile billionaires -- chose to play that card, they would be implicated as well for taking a bunch of money from (you guessed it) pedophile billionaires who are also in the docs.

It's a version of honor among thieves, and it's entirely possible that the only reason the Epstein files are being unsealed is because a number of democrats and republicans are willing to torch billionaires who aren't going to donate to them this year. I don't think it's a coincidence that all of this is ramping up during an election year.
 
Pedophile billionaires who gave a bunch of money to both democrats and republicans would 1000% want the Epstein files to stay sealed. Revealing that Trump was also raping girls would require a full reveal of all Epstein-related documents, and if democrats -- who took a bunch of money from pedophile billionaires -- chose to play that card, they would be implicated as well for taking a bunch of money from (you guessed it) pedophile billionaires who are also in the docs.
You have zero substantive evidence of pedo shit from anyone here. You're just theorycrafting
 
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Or get this: maybe it's not partisan and Biden's buddies are in it as well. It's entirely possible that Biden was/is also a corrupt leader who conveniently ignored the Epstein files while he was in office.

Pedophile billionaires who gave a bunch of money to both democrats and republicans would 1000% want the Epstein files to stay sealed. Revealing that Trump was also raping girls would require a full reveal of all Epstein-related documents, and if democrats -- who took a bunch of money from pedophile billionaires -- chose to play that card, they would be implicated as well for taking a bunch of money from (you guessed it) pedophile billionaires who are also in the docs.

I do not believe this is true AT ALL, no matter how often folks repeat it. After all, Ghislaine herself was tried and convicted with these files and NONE OF IT came out.

The reality is if there was hard, concrete proof then just that stuff leaking would have destroyed Trump. Photographic or video evidence. Doesn't have to be in a court of law, just released to the news/internet. And if there was a bunch of emails where he talks about doing it, those would have been damned as well, no need to include anyone else, unless every discussion has a ton of name drops of co-rapists. And I firmly believe that if there was stuff in there so black and white obvious....some agent, lawyer, IT tech, or clerk would have leaked it.
 
So if there are emails between epstein and trump talking about popping middle school virgins, much less actual video or photographic footage of the acts, that could ABSOLUTELY have been leaked and the Bill Gates, Stephen Hawkings, and CEO's of the world be completely left out. That narrative that its "all or nothing" is total bullshit because we are seeing right now that it can be piecemealed out and if it was all "see how sick Trump is" then at least half the country would just stop there and ask no more questions.

Are we really seeing that? From where I stand, it looks like they are trying to do that, but fucking it up while appearing like they're attempting to cover something up and throw out distractions.
 
Are we really seeing that? From where I stand, it looks like they are trying to do that, but fucking it up while appearing like they're attempting to cover something up and throw out distractions.
Eh, who knows. Is it all a cunning strategy or just incompetence? Or secret sabotage posing as incompetence? Or, more likely, the whole damned thing is too big and too much for anyone to effectively manage (certainly seems doubtful that just a handful of carefully vetted and totally loyal people are going through these millions of documents, line by line) and it's just a colossal shitshow.

Can't wait for someone to 'accidentally' release a stack of documents about some other juicy hot button.
 
Eh, who knows. Is it all a cunning strategy or just incompetence? Or secret sabotage posing as incompetence? Or, more likely, the whole damned thing is too big and too much for anyone to effectively manage (certainly seems doubtful that just a handful of carefully vetted and totally loyal people are going through these millions of documents, line by line) and it's just a colossal shitshow.

Can't wait for someone to 'accidentally' release a stack of documents about some other juicy hot button.

Consider this:

I do not believe this is true AT ALL, no matter how often folks repeat it. After all, Ghislaine herself was tried and convicted with these files and NONE OF IT came out.

Under a strictly controlled (show)trial with the right people involved in the right places, stuff like this can be piecemealed out and selectively unsealed to convict a person on carefully selected and negotiated charges.

However, this is much harder to do when dumping them all to the public under the scrutiny of millions.
 
Consider this:



Under a strictly controlled (show)trial with the right people involved in the right places, stuff like this can be piecemealed out and selectively unsealed to convict a person on carefully selected and negotiated charges.

However, this is much harder to do when dumping them all to the public under the scrutiny of millions.
Does NY courts seem like the kinda place that would shelter Trump?

If paralegals, lawyers, and NY police were sifting through pics, vids, and documents of Trump with little kids, it would have come out. The judge in that case is a hardcore democrat for chrissakes!
 
Does NY courts seem like the kinda place that would shelter Trump?

Not necessarily, but it does seem like the kinda place that would accept sheltering Trump if it also meant sheltering the other members of the rich and powerful class.

If paralegals, lawyers, and NY police were sifting through pics, vids, and documents of Trump with little kids, it would have come out. The judge in that case is a hardcore democrat for chrissakes!

You're thinking of this way too much in terms of partisan politics. This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about those with money and those with power vs. those who have neither.

 
You're thinking of this way too much in terms of partisan politics. This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about those with money and those with power vs. those who have neither.
Nah, the dems were "destroy Trump at ALL COSTS" for YEARS. No way they would pass up a silver bullet if they had one. EVERYONE in 2021 would have accepted that it was Epstein, Ghislaine, and Trump...only Trump, if that was the song they could sing.
 
Nah, the dems were "destroy Trump at ALL COSTS" for YEARS. No way they would pass up a silver bullet if they had one.

I still think you are viewing this though a lens that is way too skewed in the direction of partisan politics. If there's anything both parties have a lot of overlapping agreement on in actions and legislation, it's their lobbyist-infested campaigns funded by mega-corps and dark money, as well as an irrational fealty to Israel, both which are allegedly and coincidentally huge factors in this particular case.

They were trying to arrest Trump before the election even happened, but that didn't pan out. Curious.

Trump is a temporary threat to them who will be out in 4 years and then it's yet another corporate president taking his place. Why would they need to use that silver bullet to kill a short term problem when it would also kill the people funding their campaigns and holding up and enabling the corruption within the system and the deep state that they all benefit from long term?
 
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