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Resident Evil Requiem --- Open Spoilers Discussion ---

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- Leon dies in the non-canon ending and survives in the canon one, there.
- Elpis is a new strain of virus which basically kills all other viral infections, it's a Remedy potion in JRPG terms.
- Leon's handler is in-fact Sherry, not Hunnigan.
- No other classic character (Chris, Jill, Claire) appear.
- The post credits scene leaves the franchise open for more entries in the future.









Now onto some more detailed breakdown.

Ok.

Finished the game and I have some thoughts, overall, fan-fucking tastic. Hit me in the nostalgia bone all the right ways, with some minor reservations which I will mention as this post goes on.


Opening chapters:

- The game oozes atmosphere from the get-go, the opening walk in the rainy street feels like a scene ripped right out of Se7en and the Wrenwood hotel is almost like the first hour of RE7. Grace's character is pretty good, some qualms aside. The modern tech, mo-cap and facial capture goes a long way portraying the fear in the character's eyes and face. Importing over the fantastic Pragmata hair tech also goes a long way establishing atmosphere.

- Victor comes off as an incredibly creepy guy, his towering statue and just how easily he subdues Grace evokes a very Silence of the Lambs. Capcom chose some really good cinematic representations to highlight in the game.

- For my play through, it just felt right playing Grace's segments in first person. I tried a bit of third person but it just didn't feel right.

- Alyssa's death is pretty brutal and quick. Grace's VA is hit or miss but her screams and terror in that scene is palpable.






Enter Leon Motherfuckin' Kennedy

- The first character swap happened a lot quicker than I expected. Mr. Scott makes his entrance in the brand spanking new Porsche and the feel of the game is immediately different. He starts off with a massive inventory, multiple guns and his controls feel really crisp, great to shoot etc.





Care Center

- The first of the two massive areas in the game, this place is bigger than the RPD or the Spencer Mansion, an entire game can take place just here. Really loved the classic RE style metroidvania structure here.

- Having the "girl" aka fake Lisa Trevor chasing Grace is very tense, followed immediately by Leon strolling in and blowing her head off in a few seconds. The lighting plays a great part here.

- The little clone girl subplot was telegraphed and anyone could rub two brain cells together and tell that Grace will somehow be involved directly in that plot. Though the way it's revealed later on in the orphanage is pretty good.






Interlude between Care Center and Raccoon City

- Now, this is the part that got me. I did not expect Capcom to have the balls to turn the little girl into a monster on-screen and have Leon 'kill' her, though this gets rectonned in the ending, as it's happening it's still pretty harrowing and a far cry from the usual RE camp of action.

- Grace being disillusioned at not being able to save Emily and just walking away right into Gideon and Zeno and going with them willingly is also something I did not see coming, I thought she would be going to Raccoon City with Leon.

- Zeno, we can very heavily imply from later events, is likely another one of the "Wesker" children, the line Albert and Alex come from.

- Fun fact: Zeno's voice and motion actor is the same guy who did Albert Wesker in RE4 Remake, so Capcom isn't exactly being shy about it. Considering there are heavy rumors of a Code Veronica remake being next, they have a perfect Albert Wesker model to use for that game along with all the Matrix bullshit he pulls off.






Raccoon City East

- The starting parts of the RC area didn't exactly hit my nostalgia bones as there is little familiar, that happens later. But it was still a blast revisiting RC after 28 years in the in-game lore, Leon passing by the same gas station from Re2's intro and his jeep still being there gave me a kick.

- Something about seeing BSAA corpses in Raccoon City rubbed me the wrong way, like you motherfuckers don't belong here.




The Bike chase

- Now this was insane. A set piece straight out of Resident Evil Vendetta, the CG movie, including dogs. Previous RE games have also had car chase segments but nothing this crazy. The set pieces, action etc was incredible.

- The only thing that brought me out was seeing a 9ft tall Gideon riding a small bike, he looked so out of place.

- That final jump with the entire RC crater in the background is some *chef's kiss* cinematography.





Raccoon Police Department

- 10/10 for nostalgia. The moment I realized the game is making us take the path from RE2 Remake's intro, I got goosebumps.

- I spent over an hour just walking the halls of the RPD soaking in the atmosphere. Some of my favorite callbacks include the hall itself, Leon honoring Marvin, the guy who has his lower jaw detected by the Licker still being there, Jill's beret and Chris's Made in Heaven jacket still in the RPD, they added a couple of more Barry nods that weren't there in Re2make itself. You can find Rebecca's picture by doing a small fetch quest which leads you to get a key to open the JoJo locker (another classic Capcom nod), inside the locker are some items and also some classic Capcom game posters and disc cases along with a Japanese Sega Saturn and its controller. Of course it won't be RE without that classic STARS group photo before everything went down, and Leon acknowledging it as well "a lot of good lives lost needlessly".

- The random Mr X. out of nowhere was a real fist pump moment for me, I did *NOT* see that coming. The final fight with him was a great show that this isn't the same rookie cop Leon who could barely survive in RE2. It felt easy, Leon's expanded arsenal and tactics made taking X down easy but it also felt cathartic. We don't need no stinking Rocket Launcher assist to do that this time.

- Running into Kendo's shop and Leon giving a silent apology was also very effective, you generally don't see this kind of good virtual acting in RE games.






- Also, apparently if you hang around the Operations Room area, there is a Tofu easter egg, he peeks around the corner at you, you can't do anything but it's a fun nod.






Orphanage

- Another location revisited from RE2 Remake but it's way more effective here. You barely spend 10 minutes in RE2make here and see nothing of the horrors that are shown here. The creepy kids are very unsettling and the scene where you have to hide under the beds is intense.





Ark and Endgame

- Honestly, I don't know how I feel about there being YET ANOTHER massive underground facilities. Honestly, it feels like RC is a honey comb and its undergrounds are just an endless barrage of facilities. Though at least this one felt a lot bigger than Nest or Nest 2 from RE2/RE3 remakes.

- The imagery in some of the places is straight up Westworld.

- Lots of surprise name drops here and it definitely feels like Capcom trying their best to bring about all the various antagonistic organizations under a single banner for the same goal. Tricell, HCF, The Connections etc are all mentioned to some capacity. Though it feels like The Connections is being positioned as the next Umbrella, they had enough pull to order the strike on Raccoon City even without the president's approval and even enough resources to take over the Ark *after* RC was destroyed and keep it operational.

- This is where you find out that Grace is basically Rey Palpatine, somewhat related to Spencer but he gives her off to Alyssa to raise.

- The game also has two endings, a first for the RE engine games, which have not had multiple endings. The 'bad' ending where you choose to destroy Elpis has Leon dying pretty goddamn brutally by Zeno's hands. It was honestly pretty unsettling seeing Leon get offed like that.

- The good/canon ending tho, has Leon being cured of his virus thanks to Elis and Zeno losing his Wesker powers in turn. I did not like the surprise revelation that Gideon was a "Nemesis" type, it felt like something shoehorned to bring yet one more thing from the Remake continuity, the boss looks and fights almost exactly like the final boss in RE3make.

- No Chris appearance but he does get name-dropped, so he's still out there and apparently between RE Village and this, he's been promoted to Captain. For anyone who doesn't remember, Village ends in kind of a BSAA Civil War and Chris and his Wolf squad basically becoming a splinter faction. I guess in the years between these games, that matter got resolved off-screen.

- It was fun seeing the lickers in high fidelity again but I was hoping Capcom to bring back the Hunters. Just a persoanl gripe.

- Capcom also did not make the final Spencer study room, before the ending, into a "lore cave" like most recent RE games. Spencer's study did at least seem to have one hint / homage towards Mother Miranda from RE: Village with a portrat of a vaguely European looking inspiration with a big M on it, make of it what you will, but that is how I choose to interpret it.

- So, basically, the game in canon ends with Leon getting rid of his virus and in-fact becoming a bit more youthful, he says "I haven't felt this good in ages", i-e he's not going anywhere and we'll be seeing more of him in future RE games as well.

- And all this time, Leon's handler is one Sherry Birkin, another RE mainstay and she's also infected like Leon. But her role is so incidental to the game, she might not as well have been there and it wouldn't have changed anything about the game.





Post game

- After beating the game, you unlock a 60 page long Grace's Report which lays out the timeline from the 60's to present day, it's a recap of what we know but also does some retcons and adds information in there that we didn't.
- Brandon Bailey was rumored to be the leader of The Connections, here it implies that he was just a small cog and that organization is much bigger than anyone realizes.

- James Markus, one of the three Umbrella founders, and the focus of RE Zero, is apparently a sleeper agent and feeding info to The Connections in the 80's, before he gets assassinated.

- It's very interesting that the next two games that are rumored, Code Veronica and Zero remakes, both are about the other two Umbrella founders (Ashford, Marcus) after Spencer. So it's a safe bet to assume those games will be expanded and factor some of the things that are revealed here.

- One thing that I am *not* a fan of is how Grace's report tries to humanize Spencer with shit like "Maybe his goal was just peace", bitch fucking no. He oversaw orgaphanage children being experimented on until the mid 90's and only stopped when his Elpis virus was complete, he is a monster through and through. Do not humanize that.
 
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True, true, but I didn't like how unceremoniously he gets killed off, lol.

I get that they wanted to do this game's version of the Krauser knife fight, but at least build it up a bit.

Also, if Leon is pushing 50, Hunk must be in his 60's or so by now.
 
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Thanks and also uh .. not thanks for the second part, lol.

I really really liked the game all things considered.
I'm just a little dissapointed, but still it's a great game. I just expected more legacy characters, at least claire and ada. I mean even the 4th Survivor and fucking tofu somehow made it in lol.

Other than that, the replayibility sucks because of some slow parts and the 2 in 1 sceneraios is also stupid, since you have 2 different gameplay mechanisms.
 
I really enjoyed the game overall. But to get to my main issue with the game out of the way, Rhodes Hill Care Center is excellent and pure Resident Evil goodness. Raccoon City is a 4 hour long Raid Mode and the weakest part of the game. Thankfully it gets better once you enter the Ark imo, but Leon's section in RC dragged it down for me.

The first half is just so excellent. There's so much attention to detail, it's visually stunning, every enemy feels unique, there was just so much care put into it. Then RC happens and it's just a worse version of RE4R with dull and drab environments. It REALLY doesn't help that there's a severe lack of enemy variety in that section.

Grace is the standout for me, but it's unfortunate she takes such a backseat in the 2nd half and doesn't get any boss fights. I mean not really. It really should've been her killing Victor after this guy ruined her fucking life. I don't wanna keep complaining though. I like it more than RE7 and Village, but it's not one of the best entries imo. I consider REmake, RE2, RE4 and RE4R to be the absolute best games in the franchise. I would put Requiem right below them, maybe standing next to RE2R.

Also I think it's funny that Ada doesn't show up at all. I don't think it's a negative, I'm just glad they finally broke away from that.
 
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I really enjoyed the game overall. But to get to my main issue with the game out of the way, Rhodes Hill Care Center is excellent and pure Resident Evil goodness. Raccoon City is a 4 hour long Raid Mode and the weakest part of the game. Thankfully it gets better once you enter the Ark imo, but Leon's section in RC dragged it down for me.

The first half is just so excellent. There's so much attention to detail, it's visually stunning, every enemy feels unique, there was just so much care put into it. Then RC happens and it's just a worse version of RE4R with dull and drab environments. It REALLY doesn't help that there's a severe lack of enemy variety in that section.

Grace is the standout for me, but it's unfortunate she takes such a backseat in the 2nd half and doesn't get any boss fights. I mean not really. It really should've been her killing Victor after this guy ruined her fucking life. I don't wanna keep complaining though. I like it more than RE7 and Village, but it's not one of the best entries imo. I consider REmake, RE2, RE4 and RE4R to be the absolute best games in the franchise. I would put Requiem right below them, maybe standing next to RE2R.

Also I think it's funny that Ada doesn't show up at all. I don't think it's a negative, I'm just glad they finally broke away from that.

I do get your point about Grace not getting the final kill, I thought it would be the case too. Leon has a more global stake but it's more personal for Grace.

But by the end-game all she had was a pea shooter, that Gideon-Nemesis would have massacred her, lol.
 
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They should have just had Victor be the main bad guy. Zeno was a complete nothing-burger. The Spencer retcon was lame, he was never portrayed as anything other than completely evil. I think framing the antiviral creation as an option to neutralize Wesker would have made much more sense.

Also, it felt like they are just memory-holing RE 6. Sherry is back but no healing factor and she is infected with the T-virus? I thought she still had G-virus antibodies?
 
They should have just had Victor be the main bad guy. Zeno was a complete nothing-burger. The Spencer retcon was lame, he was never portrayed as anything other than completely evil. I think framing the antiviral creation as an option to neutralize Wesker would have made much more sense.

Also, it felt like they are just memory-holing RE 6. Sherry is back but no healing factor and she is infected with the T-virus? I thought she still had G-virus antibodies?

And if Sherry with her G-antibodies, which keep her youthful *and* heal her near instantly (as seen in RE6) can get infected, what's the state of other RC survivors.

Jill had a cocktail of viruses, parasites and Wesker experimentation done on her, she's probably a mutant blob somewhere.
 
HUNK's end is fitting, a nameless, faceless badass who's ultimately just another rando because he has no shared history with Leon; at least he put up a good fight for a 70 year old man, but the umbrella lapdog had it coming for a long time.
 
Super interested in how RE5 Remake gets retconned to align with this new narrative. Unless I'm misremembering (it's been years since I last played RE5), Spencer was still obsessed with power and gets offed by Wesker which doesn't really line up with him regretting his past and wanting to help a baby girl without a family nor with him created that super antivirus.

Also, if Sherry and Leon (amongst others) are suffering from this, what's up with Claire? Shouldn't she also be suffering from the same thing and have a vested interest? Maybe Leon sent her an email.

Hot take, but I've never held Hunk in high regards so seeing him get chopped down was satisfying.

Not sure how fan reaction has been to the Spider fight but I thought it kinda sucked. First attempt it was ridiculous trying to get a shot on the glowing weak spot on it's ass so I wound up restarting and went super aggro and didn't even give it a chance to run around much. However I bet arachnophobes shit themselves at the sight of it. Good lord.
 
Super interested in how RE5 Remake gets retconned to align with this new narrative. Unless I'm misremembering (it's been years since I last played RE5), Spencer was still obsessed with power and gets offed by Wesker which doesn't really line up with him regretting his past and wanting to help a baby girl without a family nor with him created that super antivirus.

Also, if Sherry and Leon (amongst others) are suffering from this, what's up with Claire? Shouldn't she also be suffering from the same thing and have a vested interest? Maybe Leon sent her an email.

Hot take, but I've never held Hunk in high regards so seeing him get chopped down was satisfying.

Not sure how fan reaction has been to the Spider fight but I thought it kinda sucked. First attempt it was ridiculous trying to get a shot on the glowing weak spot on it's ass so I wound up restarting and went super aggro and didn't even give it a chance to run around much. However I bet arachnophobes shit themselves at the sight of it. Good lord.

Yeah watching that cutscene of Spencer holding Grace, my mind immediately flashbacked to that moment in RE5 with Spencer going "I was to become a GOD!"

This is an outright retcon lol. I don't understand the motivation behind this.
 
Yeah watching that cutscene of Spencer holding Grace, my mind immediately flashbacked to that moment in RE5 with Spencer going "I was to become a GOD!"

This is an outright retcon lol. I don't understand the motivation behind this.


The common interpretation I've seen is that "he was regretful of his actions in his old age"

But that motherfucker was saying that he was meant to be a god seconds before Wesker gutted him, this is a poor retcon, lol.
 
My guess is that Wesker will seek out Spencer, likely for that special project he was working on in secret, but now Spencer will try to talk him down, explain how "wrong" he was or refuse to give him info about Elpis causing Wesker to kill him. I bet Spencer will have seen it coming and this was what prompted him to send Grace to Alyssa.
 
Finished it, loved it. Did soi boi faces at all the expected moments. While I'll admit to not being wildly in love with the story as it stands , the game itself is superb. Beautiful mechanics and level design. I got the impression that they wanted to have their cake and eat it by placating classic/modern RE fans in equal measure, and let's be honest they totally did, but what's here is so good and so fun that the tonal whiplash really doesn't register. I wasn't 100% on board with Nakanishi until now since RE7 and Revelations 1 are my two least favourite RE games, but with Requiem he's shown that he can direct the fuck out of this series when he needs to.

Would probably rank it in the upper mid tier of RE games, need to play it again, third person for life

Also I still can't believe I fucking killed Hunk, bit disappointed he went out like a chump tbh

Chris DLC pls thx

this is a poor retcon

Yeah it doesn't fit the Spencer MO at all, it's really out there given what we know about him
 
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In my opinion, past the third game, the story sucks. Might as well be its own different thing. RE0 to RE3 that's how I remember the franchise. As soon as they took the conflict international it got so convoluted, it's just a mess. This reviews well cause of the graphics, return of zombies.
I think it will age badly, why are Leon and Sherry infected? Who the fuck is Zeno and why does he want more power (dude already going full matrix). Victor wanna follow Spencer but Spencer built a cure so why does he go ham at the end? None of it makes sense and is just there for set pieces.
 
Wait adamsapple adamsapple you said no other classic characters appear but:
-Ashcroft
-Spencer
-Hunk
-Chris is mentioned
-Zeno is a clone of Wesker
-Mr X shows up
-Plus lickers appear too and zombie dogs
-Nemesis

Game is full of good nostalgia and expanded lore for longtime fans.
 
Wait adamsapple adamsapple you said no other classic characters appear but:
-Ashcroft
-Spencer
-Hunk
-Chris is mentioned
-Zeno is a clone of Wesker
-Mr X shows up
-Plus lickers appear too and zombie dogs
-Nemesis

Game is full of good nostalgia and expanded lore for longtime fans.

When I say classic characters, I think there is implicit understanding I'm not talking about lickers or dogs :messenger_grinning_squinting:

I meant more in the protagonist line, Chris is name dropped but an appearance at the end would have been nice. Claire and Jill are AWOL and they are probably suffering the same effects like Leon but absolutely no mention of them.
 
They should have just had Victor be the main bad guy. Zeno was a complete nothing-burger. The Spencer retcon was lame, he was never portrayed as anything other than completely evil. I think framing the antiviral creation as an option to neutralize Wesker would have made much more sense.

Also, it felt like they are just memory-holing RE 6. Sherry is back but no healing factor and she is infected with the T-virus? I thought she still had G-virus antibodies?
I genuinely thought bad ending would let me fight him and good ending you fight Victor.

The two things the game fumbles for me:
-No Zeno fight or him surviving or like Weskers memories now transfer into him after Elpis… something. Anything.
-Grace is bit by a zombie at the start of the game and doesn't turn. Why? It's stated she's a regular girl , and there's no cure to a bite like that right? Maybe she could've been turning too and Elpis saves her and Leon.
 
When I say classic characters, I think there is implicit understanding I'm not talking about lickers or dogs :messenger_grinning_squinting:

I meant more in the protagonist line, Chris is name dropped but an appearance at the end would have been nice. Claire and Jill are AWOL and they are probably suffering the same effects like Leon but absolutely no mention of them.
But sure the others are there though on my list. Like, Hunk is a full blown boss fight.
 
So there's an active effort going on to solve the last "Challenge" in the challenges menu, The Final Puzzle, which the game doesn't tell you exactly what needs to be done for.

Apparently it's quite the trip and it maybe involves the severed hand you can find and some other items that seemingly don't have any use for any active puzzles.





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I thought I was insane when I got that hand then saw it's a check mark item a moment later. So you need to use it nearly right away.

I wonder what the final puzzle gives. I hope it's a teaser trailer for code Veronica or an extra cut scene to set up RE10.
 
seems a straight forward story that is weighted towards the end.

i have not follow RE lore since RE5 lol, seems they went MGS with the whole illuminati bits

- So, basically, the game in canon ends with Leon getting rid of his virus and in-fact becoming a bit more youthful, he says "I haven't felt this good in ages", i-e he's not going anywhere and we'll be seeing more of him in future RE games as well.

Is there a doubt Leon or the other 3 main characters will ever be gone for future games? Chris, Claire and Jill.
 
The use of flashbacks from RE2 Remake and the retcons you can glean from events of RE5 with Spencer stuff and RE6 being altered regarding who authorized the missile strike implies that Remake timeline is the canon one and the old games are probably not canon anymore. I expect RE0, Veronica, RE5, RE6 to have changes made to them.

Spencer retcon seems to be a lame way to humanize him.

There is mystery surrounding when Grace was actually born and if she is an original or just a unaltered clone. Hard to pinpoint the exact age. Speculation is 2004 or 2005.

The Clone flashback where you play as "Chloe" showcased child versions of what would become Pale Heads but those are dropped rather quickly and they never appear again. Have to wonder if they had any significance.

Overall a great game and still a few mysteries to solve.
 
Absolutely incredible game. Just finished it. It's not perfect. The basement/sewer level brought the pacing to a crawl. The bike setpiece was too much. Basically felt like a scene ripped from uncharted.

I don't like that they killed off Gideon so fast. I liked his character and don't think you need to kill off every villain. The other villain was meh. Like a wannabe wesker 2.0. I don't know why they're painting Spencer as a decent human. I didn't like that there was no supporting old characters. I figured Jill or Claire would make an appearance as they have history with raccoon city. Ada omission is even more puzzling. And lastly I didn't like that you go to raccoon city and all of a sudden there's all these enemies, it makes no sense.

With that said it was incredible. Was pure cinema. I was blown away by the visuals. Best looking game I ever seen. I played via GFN with everything maxed out on 4K on my 55" set and on average I was getting 120-200+ FPS. After playing the game this way it'll be hard to play any other version.
 
Finished 1st playthrough last night, fantastic experience. Story was disappointing as a lifelong fan to be honest. Going back to raccoon city was cool, but not enough actual previous locations to visit, RPD wasn't long enough. Zeno coming out of nowhere and we get nothing on him other than one line about him being an imitation before he gets merked by Gideon. Leon's looking like he about to die this time around and Ada's nowhere to be seen? No Jill or Claire or Chris? Even at the end they should have been the ones to show up with the Wolf squad. Chris not being there at all is a real doozy. The story guys at capcom do make some mind-boggling decisions sometimes.

Unlockables are a tad disappointing again. Only one SMG for Grace? Leon's ones are a bit boring.

Still a great game, future of the franchise looks great. But still doesn't top RE2 or 4 remakes for me.

Please stop putting in little girl hide and seek sequences. They're boring as shit.
 
I platinumed the game, read all the files and listened to all the dialogue. Why were they cloning the girls again? I don't get it. At some point, it was hinted at transferring Spencers memory to them so that Grace is the original successful attempt that now holds his password,?
 
I didn't get why they done destroy elpis ending, I didn't feel this added anything and felt unnecessary.
 
Leon's looking like he about to die this time around and Ada's nowhere to be seen? No Jill or Claire or Chris?

I think the intention is that Elpis will keep Raccoon City survivors young and sprightly and starring in more games for some time to come, hence Leon's remark that he hasn't felt so revitalised in a long time.

I platinumed the game, read all the files and listened to all the dialogue. Why were they cloning the girls again? I don't get it.

It's actually shocking how fleetingly the plot is explained, it raises almost as many questions as it supplies answers, and I suspect the DLC will be a little more thorough.

I didn't get why they done destroy elpis ending, I didn't feel this added anything and felt unnecessary.

Agreed, I picked it as my first choice and while it was incredibly obvious it wasn't the canon ending, it left me sitting there thinking 'well that was a fucking downer way to wrap things up'

At least the game gives you the chance to immediately retry after the credits roll, but yeah I don't really get why they included it in the first place. Revelations 2 did this kind of thing in a much more interesting and effective way.
 
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You get all the usual unlock infinite ammo for the gun(s)?

Yes, but you have to 'buy' it with completion points that you get for doing various challenges (it's all listed in the challenge menu after beating the game once). You don't just simply unlock it after berating the game.
 
I didn't get why they done destroy elpis ending, I didn't feel this added anything and felt unnecessary.

An homage to RE1 where you can have different endings, including ones where people die, I suppose.

Otherwise, yes, clearly that ending isn't canon as it just cuts as soon as Grace goes up the elevator with no payoff. No one's gonna assume that's how the story ends.
 
An homage to RE1 where you can have different endings, including ones where people die, I suppose.

Otherwise, yes, clearly that ending isn't canon as it just cuts as soon as Grace goes up the elevator with no payoff. No one's gonna assume that's how the story ends.
After more than fifteen hours with the game and almost 30 years with the character seeing this was an ultimate slap in the face and is on par with Batman's death in suicide squad kill the justice league. Hell even if this was a newcoming character it would have been strange way to end a game.
 
After more than fifteen hours with the game and almost 30 years with the character seeing this was an ultimate slap in the face and is on par with Batman's death in suicide squad kill the justice league. Hell even if this was a newcoming character it would have been strange way to end a game.

It is pretty brutal and unceremonious, agreed.

But realistically, it's a completely weakened Leon trying to stand up to a fully powered Wesker, there was no other way it was going to end, lol.

I would have liked if the final boss in the normal ending was a revived Leon fighting against Zeno, see how that fight would have been. Would also set up a template for the inevitable Chris vs Wesker showdown in the rumored CV Remake.
 
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I platinumed the game, read all the files and listened to all the dialogue. Why were they cloning the girls again? I don't get it. At some point, it was hinted at transferring Spencers memory to them so that Grace is the original successful attempt that now holds his password,?
Yes, basically. Grace was the only subject that was stable after the experiments and therefore it was a successful memory transfer. The rest of the children at the orphanage could not withstand the mutated t-virus strain. Meaning Grace is immune to the t-virus. The cloning Victor was doing was to replicate Spencer's work to find the 'bioweapon' that would upset the military balance of the world, in doing so he found the genetic match in Graces blood. Little did he know Elpis was an antivirus. lol Resident Evil.
 
The first half of the game is great seriously 10/10. They drop the ball in the middle as once you reach Racoon city, the game changes from a new RE game to pure fan service. What was that fight with Mr.X??? So random and bland. The mortar section was also really gimmicky. Plant boss boring, Mr.X boring, Victor at the end boring and uninspiring. The first part had amazing monster designs and had that distinct RE feel. Racoon city while it was fun to return, it should have been night. There's nothing scary in the later half and visually it looks bland.

- Grace is an excellent addition, great sections, great VA work and very memorable.
- Bosses were quite meh compared to RE4R, RE7 & RE8.
- Racoon city section with Leon was lite-Call of Duty Zombies lol, Spider Boss was pretty cool though as well as Victor motorcycle and Hunk (clone I guess) fight.
- Story is all over the place but that's fine, it's RE lol
- Injector stuff was weird, like I don't see why this was needed lol, didn't really change or have anything unique to it, I mean sure you make make ribbons but eh.
- Too few Puzzles in a RE game??!! also were too easy, compared this to RE8 or RE2R, it's bad.

I don't think this is worth the full price. Quite disappointing. A generous 6/10 imo, will increase if DLC is good.
 
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Raccoon City needed more enemy and location variety. Imagine a sewer section infested with mutated alligators and Hunters. Or how bout going through the Clock Tower as a way to make up for RE3's Remake.

It just felt like they did the most unimaginative thing possible. Dull and drab environments where you collect three bomb pieces, fighting the same zombie enemies. Then you do an awful motorcycle segment ripped straight from the CGI films. Then you get to RPD where half the place can't be explored, and it's over before you know it. Like, I enjoyed RE9 a lot, but RC could've been so much better.

Also after playing Leon's big section, and seeing where the story is heading, I 100% believe it's inevitable they're going to accidentally make RE6 again.
 
I could definitely play a boss rush mode. Hunk was cool but also why? Mr X boss fight was a fun parry fight but he didn't do much. I didn't die at the bosses. I died at the chopper blade Mr X put into the wall lol. Doc Oc at the end was not better than RE4's final boss IMO.

I thought we'd get a much more fleshed out hotel. It was good. It does not overstay its welcome and that is what RE is good at these days. Environments and buildings look interesting and you aren't bashing your head in to finish them.

The burning church boss fight was fun and looked cool. The game needs a Mercanaries mode since they gave you upgrades 1/2 way in and a semi large area + subway. Spider boss was amazing. That looked so good on PS5Pro.

The ARK wasn't as memorable as the past labs. Seeing where the employees ate, worked, and lockers felt on par with what is basically a data center in Requiem? Fighting licker after licker would have been cool had there been a designated spot or something for growing those things? The body tubes didn't do anything for me.

I'd like to replay with OP weapons and different costumes. I got the canon ending. I'll try and piece it all together while I'm working this next week.

This might sound weird but I'm glad 7 and Village existed. I loved the idea of the mold crafting this freak show fantasy world from ages ago. Capcom did a wonderful job with 9 to where I feel like they made every fan happy. If they release CV and 0 then that's even more of the OG canon for the fans.

There has to be way more lore to it cause Spencer didn't talk about Miranda or the mold. Was the mold even mentioned? I agree about Leon's thoughts during the RPD and Gun store. It made me want to replay the RE2 Remake.
 
Also, it felt like they are just memory-holing RE 6. Sherry is back but no healing factor and she is infected with the T-virus? I thought she still had G-virus antibodies?
There's no mention of no healing, in fact her RCS being only on her hand implies that her healing is actually working overtime to slow the spread, while Leon's was rapidly progressing in the what, 14 hours the game takes place? RCS is caused specifically by a mutated dormant t-virus strain that slowly adapted to the host anti-bodies; so sherry was still "supergirl" during the game, however if elpis also neutralised the g-virus in her, then she might no longer be immortal, but I doubt capcom will go that route, having jill and sherry not age means they can use them forever.

Unless I'm misremembering (it's been years since I last played RE5), Spencer was still obsessed with power and gets offed by Wesker which doesn't really line up with him regretting his past and wanting to help a baby girl without a family nor with him created that super antivirus.
I'm not sure if it's a pure retcon, you're right in that in RE5 spencer says "I was to become a GOD", but he also follows that up immediately with "but all was lost with raccoon city".
RE9 also mentions that in the end the people around him said he was just a "senile old man", he might have been slipping in and out of regret/immortality mindsets and seeing wesker triggered his old personality; it's a bit rough but it can work that way without just a full retcon.
There is mystery surrounding when Grace was actually born and if she is an original or just a unaltered clone. Hard to pinpoint the exact age. Speculation is 2004 or 2005.
The backstory behind Grace is a bit confusing, but I think that's intentional and we might see more in DLC, either:
1. We see her age in one of the slides, it's the one that stops with the date of "2005", she can't be "the original", because we see Chloe in 1990, so she was made in ~1983. I believe Grace is referred to as "the original" because she's seen as the only successful specimen, so she's the "original spencer memory transfer".
2. She's not a clone at all, just a girl Spencer took in from the orphanage; this is because Gideon mentions "there was no connection between Grace and Emily." The Connections etc all completely misinterpreted what Spencer meant with "she's the key".

In either scenario she's around ~21 years old.

An homage to RE1 where you can have different endings, including ones where people die, I suppose.
The destroy ending is there because that's Leon's mission, it's there just to show his objective was wrong this time.

Who the fuck is Zeno and why does he want more power (dude already going full matrix). Victor wanna follow Spencer but Spencer built a cure so why does he go ham at the end?
Zeno is a wesker clone and he has RCS, so he'll die eventually, he probably thought Elpis would save him from RCS by giving him even more powers; Victor "goes ham" at the end because he, once again, misinterprets Spencer, thinking he wants to drop the world into chaos/anarchy by controlling biological warfare, so he tries to kill the "witnesses" and escape with Elpis.

Grace is bit by a zombie at the start of the game and doesn't turn. Why? It's stated she's a regular girl , and there's no cure to a bite like that right? Maybe she could've been turning too and Elpis saves her and Leon.
We don't actually see anyone turning by bites I believe, everyone at the start gets turned by Victor and whoever they attack/bit just die; the ones in the care center are patients who were being experimented on, and the rest of the staff were probably just turned by Victor as well; whatever he's using might not be infectious that way because it seems similar to the controlled/assassin BOW used to kill Alyssa, instead of causing an outbreak by spreading rapidly.
That or she just has natural immunity, 10% of the population was straight up immune to the t-virus, so it's not impossible 🤷‍♂️

As for the "no chris/jill/ada" stuff.
These people aren't exactly attached to the hip lol, they have their own battles to fight and part of all different organisations; Leon is DSO and wasn't exactly planning on going to raccoon city at all, he was investigating RCS victims and spotted Gideon abducting Grace, which sets the game off.
At the end of 8 Chris goes to Europe to confront the BSAA on their BOW usage, this man is fighting BOW wars all around the world; sending in hound wolf squad to mop up is probably a better use of his time than to just dap up leon and then leave again.
Ada similarly is always on some missions with shady spy shit, would honestly be kind weird for her to just show up there, when Leon wasn't even planning on being there.
 
Grace was the only subject that was stable after the experiments and therefore it was a successful memory transfer. The rest of the children at the orphanage could not withstand the mutated t-virus strain. Meaning Grace is immune to the t-virus.
Except at the end it's revealed that's only what Zeno's team thought, while in fact she isn't any special clone child, just Spencer's adopted daughter?
 
Just adding my opinion. Spencer must have "loved" her enough to keep her safe. She really had no idea cause all of that was hidden from her. I wonder if Spencer knew someone like Zeno and Victor would come for her someday. I wonder what her mother would have done, just let it be had she not gotten killed.
 
The backstory behind Grace is a bit confusing, but I think that's intentional and we might see more in DLC, either:
1. We see her age in one of the slides, it's the one that stops with the date of "2005", she can't be "the original", because we see Chloe in 1990, so she was made in ~1983. I believe Grace is referred to as "the original" because she's seen as the only successful specimen, so she's the "original spencer memory transfer".
2. She's not a clone at all, just a girl Spencer took in from the orphanage; this is because Gideon mentions "there was no connection between Grace and Emily." The Connections etc all completely misinterpreted what Spencer meant with "she's the key".

In either scenario she's around ~21 years old.
I think it's this. And Victor/Zeno got the facts wrong the more I look into it.
 
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