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[nightfly]

Just started playing it and while it's indeed quite fun, I can't help but notice it plays a lot like SMS. I mean the double jump is very similar to Fludd.

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[Liopleurodon]

Of course not.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Mario gets his FLUDD snatched from him and those levels are relatively difficult. Does Astrobot do the same?

 

[CamHostage]

I'm mean, it's "Press the jump button"n gameplay, but...

As far as the hover pack mechanic, wasnt there a jetpack-enhancer platformer before Sunshine? I can't recall one in the 2D era, but it feels real familiar for a PS1 or DC game? The only one coming to mind was Daxter on PSP, but that was obviously a few years after.

 

[amigastar]

Everything is a rip off from something else. Take Quentin Tarantino for example, rip off of many different sources like Elmore Leonard for dialogues and so on.
You don't have to invent the wheel everytime just take it and adjust it (Civilization quote, lol)

 

[Mr Moose]

Mario Sunshine was shit. Second worst Mario I have played, after whichever one was just a dream, was it Mario 2?

 

[MrJangles]

Who cares, its ten times the game Sunshine is.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Is this a troll thread? No. They are nothing alike outside of being platformers.

 

[Ellis]

Completely different other than being a platformer, and it also shits over every single 3D Mario game outside of SM64.

 

[The_hunter]

They are two different things.

 

[RoboFu]

I mean you almost have to rip off Mario in some ways now. It's done everything. It's kind of like " the Simpsons did it " South Park episode

 

[ReBurn]

Astro Bot is an homage to the many great things about 3D platformers. It's not unique but it's great.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Astrobot's hover is an evolution of Fludd, not a copy. The game borrows a bit more from Galaxy and it's sequel than from Sunshine or 64.

 

[ハトリス]

 

[Elfstar]

Absolutely not. It ripped Mario Galaxy off.

 

[pulicat]

Technically yes, but it's also a rip-off from other Mario games as well, such as Galaxy and 3D World. Unfortunately, it failed to copy Mario games' sales numbers.

 

[K' Dash]

astrobot is as bad as its sales numbers, that should tell you everything. It tries really hard to be good, but fails miserably.

 

[Unknown?]

Absolutely not. It ripped Mario Galaxy off.

Which ripped off Ratchet and Clank 2. Checkmate. Chummmm........p.

 

[Elfstar]

Which ripped off Ratchet and Clank 2. Checkmate. Chummmm........p.

I know you felt like a badass by typing this dumbass post, but Astrobot openly rips off Galaxy's power ups and enemies and doesn't even try to pretend it doesn't, still a better game than recent Marios.

 

[kevboard]

everything in Astrobot is derivative. not only from Mario Sunshine, but generally Mario and similar 3D platformers.

they have the invisible blocks that become visible through a special light, which is something mario and probably other games already did.
it has the balancing on balls, which is prominently featured in Mario Galaxy.
it has WHAT IF CHARACTER BIG?, which is also pretty cliché.

and it does borrow a few Fludd nozzles from Sunshine as well yeah.

 

[Germuso]

Mario Sunshine is there with bubsy 3d and astro bot destroyed Odyssey and bananza.

Nintendo stop making Mario games for movies, accoding to famitsu several Mario devs changed their genre to work at the red town like sony's bitches.

 

[kevboard]

Completely different other than being a platformer, and it also shits over every single 3D Mario game outside of SM64.

it's not even the best 3D platformer that released that year lol. and it's barely better than Sunshine

 

[Topher]

 

[R6Rider]

barely better than Sunshine

 

[kevboard]

it's more polished. that's all it has that makes it better.

if Sunshine got a remake with improved controls and camera, it would be the better game

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Yes

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Sunshine is a shadow of what Astro it is. There is better Mario games to tout than that.

 

[Topher]

This is a silly discussion. Astrobot dev got on stage and paid homage to Mario directly. This "ripped off" nonsense is just a silly warrior take. Video games are fulled of influences from past games and everyone knows it.

"....let's not forget that even before PlayStation there were people making platformers. I remember I was a kid in 1989 Christmas, and I got a grey box, there was a game packed in, it was called Super Mario Bros. and it was really, really great - so we are in Japan, we are in Tokyo, they are in Kyoto, but I want to pay tribute to the company who really put like platformers and showed us innovation and quality consistently, and inspired us to actually make the game that we made...And I've managed not mention them, have you noticed? But you all know who they are"

Random: PlayStation's Astro Bot Director Pays Tribute To Mario And Nintendo In GOTY Speech

"I didn't plan to say it, but I'm going to say it anyway"

www.nintendolife.com

 

[bender]

This is a silly discussion. Astrobot dev got on stage and paid homage to Mario directly. This "ripped off" nonsense is just a silly warrior take. Video games are fulled of influences from past games and everyone knows it.

"....let's not forget that even before PlayStation there were people making platformers. I remember I was a kid in 1989 Christmas, and I got a grey box, there was a game packed in, it was called Super Mario Bros. and it was really, really great - so we are in Japan, we are in Tokyo, they are in Kyoto, but I want to pay tribute to the company who really put like platformers and showed us innovation and quality consistently, and inspired us to actually make the game that we made...And I've managed not mention them, have you noticed? But you all know who they are"

Random: PlayStation's Astro Bot Director Pays Tribute To Mario And Nintendo In GOTY Speech

"I didn't plan to say it, but I'm going to say it anyway"

www.nintendolife.com

I'm glad they owned up to ripping off Mario and I hope they feel immense shame.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No. It elevated the Nintendo formula to the next level.

 

[kazuyamishima]

This is a silly discussion. Astrobot dev got on stage and paid homage to Mario directly. This "ripped off" nonsense is just a silly warrior take. Video games are fulled of influences from past games and everyone knows it.

It's not even the same 3D platformer that released the same day.

Did I got it right ?

 

[bender]

No. It elevated the Nintendo formula to the next level.

 

[Dacvak]

Remember, good artists borrow. Great artists steal.

 

[DryvBy]

Sunshine is one of the biggest turds of gaming history from a big company. Astrobot is awesome.

So no, it didn't.

 

[Trilobit]

Astro Bot is like your friend copying your homework, but he only copies one paragraph. Astro Bot is basically a poor man's Mario game. Gorgeous for sure, but very paltry in terms of game mechanics.

On the topic of Sunshine I never bothered to play more than an hour of it. Boooring game. The Galaxy games were an incredible step up. But I hope we get a direct successor to SM64 some day.

 

[Sooner]

If it had, it wouldn't be that good of a game.

 

[Sooner]

astrobot is as bad as its sales numbers, that should tell you everything. It tries really hard to be good, but fails miserably.

Speaking of trying really hard, but failing miserably - your post.

 

[EDMIX]

but Astrobot openly rips off Galaxy's power ups and enemies

Like what? provide actual details to discuss

 

[Sooner]

Like what? provide actual details to discuss

Don't you remember in Mario Galaxy when Mario turns into a sponge that grows giant in water and when he uses plant-based boxing gloves.

 

[Unknown?]

I know you felt like a badass by typing this dumbass post, but Astrobot openly rips off Galaxy's power ups and enemies and doesn't even try to pretend it doesn't, still a better game than recent Marios.

No not really. I just like teasing Mario fans.

 

[Three]

I guess Mario 64 is a rip off of Jumping Flash due to the triple jump mechanic. Sunshine wasn't even the first to do the hover mechanic, Spyro came before it.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

Well sunshine kinda sucks and astro is a goat tier platformer

 

[Nvzman]

Just started playing it and while it's indeed quite fun, I can't help but notice it plays a lot like SMS. I mean the double jump is very similar to Fludd.

By this logic, Super Mario Sunshine is ripping off the hover mechanic the mechs have in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.

Its just a hover mechanic... nothing derivative at all about it.

 

[cartman414]

Mario Sunshine was shit. Second worst Mario I have played, after whichever one was just a dream, was it Mario 2?

How dare you sir.

 

[Sooner]

How dare you sir.

He's right

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

some parts but mostly galaxy

 

[Edmund]

I remember I was a kid in 1989 Christmas

I can't imagine Topher as a kid. In my eyes you're always that wise old man.

 

[kevboard]

Mario Sunshine was shit. Second worst Mario I have played, after whichever one was just a dream, was it Mario 2?

Mario 2 is good when you play the GBA remake.

the original was clunky, the SNES remake was ok-ish, and the GBA remake finally made it an actually good game

 

[JimRyanGOAT]

No Mario Clears