Will all of these players spend MORE money beyond buying the game though, or will just a select few of them do?
It should be doing better than it is but that's a good point how much is it generating after the initial purchase? If it's decent it should be fine at these kind of numbers but who knows?
The average conversion rate for free-to-play games is around 2-5%, meaning only a small percentage of players make purchases.
The game took like 5 years to make, was basically reworked at one point. Was originally suppose to come out before the finals.
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Gamalytics is based on algorithmic analysis and it becomes more accurate the longer a game has been released. It is very inaccurate near launch but after a few months of data it becomes pretty close the real sales numberGamalytics revised their estimate down. Instead of 977k copes sold. It's now at 778k. I think Paul Tassi said Marathon was skewing a bit more to PC. So maybe consoles are 600k. In total, maybe the game has sold 1.4M-ish.
And it's not that their data link on Steam isnt updated. You can see the # of reviews, followers and playtime are up from the old data set.
Mar 14.....................................................................Mar 16
Player by country seems to map the highs and lows here accurately by time for peaks and lows.
doesnt seem true at all
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$75M seems like the number floating around, with marketing $100M to get it out the door doesn't seem unreasonable.doesnt seem true at all
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It just looks on the eyes the Dark mode? My friends that don't use glasses says the same, so I don't get it?
45,500 last Thursday vs 45,000 at the same time today. Strong holds, at least in the European market for sure. There is a die hard fan base. I would be surprised if there are drastic declines going forward
If a game has 1 million monthly players, the general rule is that 150K of them will use money per month on the game.
I was going to assume a little higher like 10% to be "nice" ...
Discounts first
A lot of gaas games are not massive hits on day 1, but evolve over time to become huge. I am sure Bungie has at least a year of providing major updates to get the player base where it needs to be. Almost two weeks later, retention seems pretty solid, even if it is smaller than what was estimated to be at launch
doesnt seem true at all
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I don't like the comparison. Sony has already invested 300-400mil on Marathon. That money is already gone. No game with peak player counts above 15,000 on Steam ever gets shut down or loses support. It is practically free money for Sony to continously invest in Marathon unless the playerbase drastically collapses. The reason being is because it is a lot cheaper to update a game than build it from the ground up. Marathon won't need nearly as many people working on it after releaseThat's why this is an interesting journey to watch. Because we'll find out how the Bungie/Sony relationship is and what the expectations are.
Take Hyenas for example
SEGA let that game develop all the way up to shipping before canning it. Somehow a project went through its entire life dev cycle with presumably plans and agreements in place before it all changed.
We know that Hyenas was a shit show, but it was still able to go through the development process and have playtests.
Hyenas has just been canceled by Sega
Hyenas, the new multiplayer loot shooter from Alien Isolation and Total War dev Creative Assembly, has just been canceled by Sega, despite a recent closed beta.
Marathon has something, but in no world is it a runaway success printing money. So are the plans at Bungie strong enough to give them the time to reach whatever numbers were in the sales projections?
We have no answers. We're just observers to this. I care because this is an industry giant launching a big game, technically not a new IP, but to most it basically is. The industry has just racked up years of giant mistakes, Sony being key to one of the biggest of all time. Have they sobered up? Have they stopped chasing unrealistic numbers? Do they see something that Marathon's core base do in order to keep this one alive, giving it more time to grow?
That's the negative though is that it's slowly declining only after 2 weeks. How anyone thinks it's ok is beyond me. Like others have said the console versions are doing even worse apparently, it's in trouble no question or should I say Bungie because layoffs will be first.
Yea ultimately it's in bad shape, i don't think the end game is gonna be strong enough to keep this game aliveI'm a bit confused, you guys don't see the decline, really? It got a boost this weekend because, well, it's the weekend but this week is gonna be terrible
Game already dipped bellow 20K today so... not good at all
And its launch is so low that obviously it's not going to lose 20K players every week, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone left.
Problem with game companies (in particular western ones who have the budget but blow it) is they also always got to amp it up "bigger and better". Firstly, better is subjective since the game or sequel might be shit, but to be fair when they say bigger it's probably true. More of this or that, triple the open world area to explore etc... Well, if a game is going to be promoted heavily on quantity then of course the budget is going to be massive.
Currently down about -5% vs Friday similar time.I'm a bit confused, you guys don't see the decline, really? It got a boost this weekend because, well, it's the weekend but this week is gonna be terrible
Game already dipped bellow 20K today so... not good at all
And its launch is so low that obviously it's not going to lose 20K players every week, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone left.
Only way it would is if the small playerbase remaining become really big spenders, like what happened with The Finals. However, The Finals skins actually look good, whereas even Marathon players agree the cosmetics they sell in the game are super lackluster.
I guarantee you that if SEGA believed Hyena's could maintain 20-30k playerbase on Steam, it would not have been canceled. I am sure unlike Concord, execs at SEGA actually playtested Hyenas before release and figured it would bomb and decided it wasn't worth it to release it
