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[Broad Spectrum]

Yeah, that 2.23% is gone for good, Microsoft is doomed.

You're missing the forest for the trees.

Market share data on operating systems from via statbase 2010:

2025:

Microsoft has been haemorrhaging market share for the past 15 years.

Arm64 support has been available in Proton Experimental as of around 4 months ago. When we get a functional ARM steam client that will play PC games on ARM devices like those found in Android devices you'll see a similar cannibalisation of gaming market share as you did with the general operating system space when those devices get rolled up in relevant steam charts.

If you're going to argue that mobile operating systems shouldn't count, spend 30 seconds Googling on where young people are spending most of their time gaming.

 

[adamsapple]

You're missing the forest for the trees.

Market share data on operating systems from via statbase 2010:

2025:

Microsoft has been haemorrhaging market share for the past 15 years.

Arm64 support has been available in Proton Experimental as of around 4 months ago. When we get a functional ARM steam client that will play PC games on ARM devices like those found in Android devices you'll see a similar cannibalisation of gaming market share as you did with the general operating system space when those devices get rolled up in relevant steam charts.

If you're going to argue that mobile operating systems shouldn't count, spend 30 seconds Googling on where young people are spending most of their time gaming.

Not sure if counting Android or iOS against Windows really makes sense.

Also, "Unknown" having a higher market share than Linux.

 

[Bojji]

Not sure if counting Android or iOS against Windows really makes sense.

Also, "Unknown" having a higher market share than Linux.

It's some unknown Linux distro - 100%!

 

[SScorpio]

You're missing the forest for the trees.

Market share data on operating systems from via statbase 2010:

2025:

Microsoft has been haemorrhaging market share for the past 15 years.

Arm64 support has been available in Proton Experimental as of around 4 months ago. When, not if, when we get a functional ARM steam client that will play PC games on ARM devices like those found in Android devices you'll see a similar cannibalisation of gaming market share as you did with the general operating system space when those devices get rolled up in relevant steam charts.

If you're going to argue that mobile operating systems shouldn't count, spend 30 seconds Googling on where young people are spending most of their time gaming.

That's why Microsoft had that full screen tablet mode in Windows 8 that everyone blew up about. Consumer Windows also isn't Microsoft's main market. That's Azure and all of the subscription services like M365, and the licensing of Windows, Office, SQL, etc by businesses.

And it's not ARM64 support in Proton that you want to look for. It's FEX-Emu that is coming in the Steam Frame that will work along side Proton to let you run x86/x64 games on an ARM64 CPU under SteamOS.

 

[crazyriddler]

You're missing the forest for the trees.

Market share data on operating systems from via statbase 2010:

2025:

Microsoft has been haemorrhaging market share for the past 15 years.

Arm64 support has been available in Proton Experimental as of around 4 months ago. When we get a functional ARM steam client that will play PC games on ARM devices like those found in Android devices you'll see a similar cannibalisation of gaming market share as you did with the general operating system space when those devices get rolled up in relevant steam charts.

If you're going to argue that mobile operating systems shouldn't count, spend 30 seconds Googling on where young people are spending most of their time gaming.

I've been hearing for over a decade that the mobile market is going to take over the PC and console markets, blah blah blah… And here we are, with consoles and PCs stronger than ever. The Android market may grow, but unless you're one of those who (still) thinks that smartphones and tablets are going to make premium experiences disappear... And yes, obviously young (and adult) people play more on smartphones, but that's because the smartphone market is absurdly larger.'Today, approximately 4.69 billion people own a smartphone' source. No shit, of course more people are playing on smartphones.

 

[Alan Silvestro]

 

[Trilobit]

Windows works excellently for me each day. It's weird that there's a lag whenever I right-click in Explorer, but other than that there's no issues.

 

[Broad Spectrum]

Not sure if counting Android or iOS against Windows really makes sense.

Also, "Unknown" having a higher market share than Linux.

I'm not sure why it wouldn't make sense. Unless you want to look specifically at desktop OS market share and not overall global operating system market share. But that would be cherry picking the data IMO.

I've been hearing for over a decade that the mobile market is going to take over the PC and console markets, blah blah blah… And here we are, with consoles and PCs stronger than ever. The Android market may grow, but unless you're one of those who (still) thinks that smartphones and tablets are going to make premium experiences disappear... And yes, obviously young (and adult) people play more on smartphones, but that's because the smartphone market is absurdly larger.'Today, approximately 4.69 billion people own a smartphone' source. No shit, of course more people are playing on smartphones.

Smartphones are also more prevalent as gaming devices in developing markets. I don't think the premium experience is going to vanish as there are always going to be enthusiasts, I think it's going to follow the general global operating system trends and shrink relative to the mobile market.

Going from 95% operating system market share to 25% -- a 70% drop in market share -- is impressively bad and I don't understand how you can tell me with a straight face that Microsoft hasn't been floundering in the operating system space for the past 15 years. They dropped the ball on mobile operating systems. They dropped the ball with XBOX. And if you think it's any better on Windows... go read some recent headlines. They're floundering.

 

[twilo99]

Windows works excellently for me each day. It's weird that there's a lag whenever I right-click in Explorer, but other than that there's no issues.

I read somewhere that Intel based systems don't have that right click lag issue but not sure. Both of mine are on AMD and they both have it..

 

[Trilobit]

I read somewhere that Intel based systems don't have that right click lag issue but not sure. But of mine are on AMD and they both have it..

Yeah, I also have an AMD Thinkpad. Sounds very odd how that could be.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Emedan]

FFS it's a nightmare working in IT having Windows users... We have forced updating for security reasons and never knowing if the next one will brick some function is fucking retarded..

 

[ReBurn]

FFS it's a nightmare working in IT having Windows users... We have forced updating for security reasons and never knowing if the next one will brick some function is fucking retarded..

You guys don't test them before you roll them out?

 

[Emedan]

You guys don't test them before you roll them out?

Im an IT consultant, we help mostly smaller sized companies and don't really have time for that. If the customer wants forced software updates that's what they will get. I do control it though so whenever this shit comes up I can pause them but such a fucking hassle to having to do that all the time.

 

[winjer]

 

[Radical_3d]

Stability: Improvements to Bluetooth, USB, and printer connectivity to reduce crashes.

Hahahaha!! Oh god, Windows users live like savages.

 

[Topher]

Sounds like "hear you"

 

[Bojji]

Hahahaha!! Oh god, Windows users live like savages.