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[ChuckeRearmed]

If Ghalibaf is involved, this makes things interesting.

 

[ADiTAR]

If Ghalibaf is involved, this makes things interesting.

Why?

 

[Brucey]

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Why?

Because Ghalibaf is a technocrat neo-principlist aka he is ideologically aligned with ayatollah but less of a hawk. Larijani for example was a hawk. I think the big wildcard is the people's protest. Ghalibaf being aligned with IRGC and such, will not make him that popular among people who were protesting but I doubt he is as hated as old leadership was.

Especially considering that Pahlavi is becoming increasingly similar to European "strong worded letter" Union. Together with CIA losing interest in kurdish rebellion (probably due to Turkey), there might be something interestying. But at the same time somebody might kill Ghalibaf - foreign agents or hardliners. And then the calculus will change. It is also possible nothing is going to work out too.

 

[violence]

I wouldn't doubt if he was actually talking to the Gulf states and not Iran.

 

[daffyduck]

To be fair, the regime just fired him.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[poppabk]

I thought this was fake at first "I am please", "witch" but I'm guessing it's real but rushed maybe to prop up the markets?

 

[Dacvak]

I thought this was fake at first "I am please", "witch" but I'm guessing it's real but rushed maybe to prop up the markets?

I'd assume it was fake if it didn't have typos in it lol

 

[Dithadder]

People are so short minded, they will be voting for more of the same if they vote against the current party. They all spend like no tomorrow but at least the Republicans pretend they are fiscally sound. Prices will rise regardless of who is in office.

I wish all the Democrats would vote Green and all the Republicans would vote Libertarian.

 

[Meicyn]

I wish all the Democrats would vote Green and all the Republicans would vote Libertarian.

And potentially give a grifting tankie like Jill Stein the presidency? Absolutely not.

 

[Dithadder]

And potentially give a grifting tankie like Jill Stein the presidency? Absolutely not.

Puerto Rican Independence Party?

 

[violence]

I thought this was fake at first "I am please", "witch" but I'm guessing it's real but rushed maybe to prop up the markets?

Apparently all caps turns off autocorrect.

 

[calico]

"Tomorrow morning, sometime their time, we were expecting to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10bn (£7.5bn) to build," he says.

"It was a very good one, there was no dearth of money. One shot it is gone. It collapses. Why would they want that?

"So they called, I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal," [President] Trump says.

"And we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal, and it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons.

"They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff, there is no deal," he adds.

 

[FullMetalx117]

"Tomorrow morning, sometime their time, we were expecting to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10bn (£7.5bn) to build," he says.

"It was a very good one, there was no dearth of money. One shot it is gone. It collapses. Why would they want that?

"So they called, I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal," [President] Trump says.

"And we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal, and it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons.

"They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff, there is no deal," he adds.

They must've prepared reading The Art of the Deal...hopefully Trump ready for that

 

[LordCBH]

"Tomorrow morning, sometime their time, we were expecting to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10bn (£7.5bn) to build," he says.

"It was a very good one, there was no dearth of money. One shot it is gone. It collapses. Why would they want that?

"So they called, I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal," [President] Trump says.

"And we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal, and it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons.

"They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff, there is no deal," he adds.

Adding Trump Hands for emphasis:

 

[Gp1]

If Ghalibaf is involved, this makes things interesting.

If Ghalibaf is involved without the IRGC involvement, Ghalibaf ain't going to be involved for long. I would like to know what's the role of the Artesh in all of this. The Iranian Regular army could play a interesting role in all of this.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

If Ghalibaf is involved without the IRGC involvement, Ghalibaf ain't going to be involved for long. I would like to know what's the role of the Artesh in all of this. The Iranian Regular army could play a interesting role in all of this.

I doubt Artesh is going to be involved at all unless the regions rebel. And even then I doubt.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[hououinkyouma00]

If Ghalibaf is involved without the IRGC involvement, Ghalibaf ain't going to be involved for long. I would like to know what's the role of the Artesh in all of this. The Iranian Regular army could play a interesting role in all of this.
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I've seen so much about the F35 and so much of it is terrible misinformed about how these machines work/function.

Most people don't know shit.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

Though expensive initially going full off grid solar years ago was a great investment

Plus mainly driving EVs it also charges our vehicles (as we watch gas prices spike)

I was talking to a guy yesterday who got an electric car based on his friend telling him he saved so much on gas, he said his electric bill jumped up $400 lol. Not sure if he was lying or not, I know it cost me $150 to fill up my truck yesterday but I live in CA so gas is higher here than most other places anyway.

 

[Brucey]

Another glorious success of "gun free zones" where only the law abiding are disarmed....

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I was talking to a guy yesterday who got an electric car based on his friend telling him he saved so much on gas, he said his electric bill jumped up $400 lol. Not sure if he was lying or not, I know it cost me $150 to fill up my truck yesterday but I live in CA so gas is higher here than most other places anyway.

I would assume all depends on which state and the cost of electricity in that state like California is pretty expensive and how much they drive

I know back home in Indiana when my son switched to a Tesla his app shows he pays around $10 of extra electricity for 300 miles of range when charging at home

With some of the strictest gun laws in the country, guess criminals don't care about laws

 

[Boo Who?]

Wait until it gets warm out. Those numbers will be much more impressive for Chicago.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[Bojji]

 

[Kilau]

I was talking to a guy yesterday who got an electric car based on his friend telling him he saved so much on gas, he said his electric bill jumped up $400 lol. Not sure if he was lying or not, I know it cost me $150 to fill up my truck yesterday but I live in CA so gas is higher here than most other places anyway.

The fuel cost doesn't just vanish, it transfers, so of course home electric goes up but unless you have some terrible tier pricing it will be way less than gas. Tesla app shows you your savings when you put the cost per kWh in.

 

[Gp1]

I doubt Artesh is going to be involved at all unless the regions rebel. And even then I doubt.

They were always a second rate force, behind the IRGC, and they suffered mass purge when the revolution occurred.
But I still can't find credible information on how loyal they are to the regime right now.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

They were always a second rate force, behind the IRGC, when suffered mass purges when the revolution occurred.
But I still can't find credible information on how loyal they are to the regime right now.

Rather than being a second rate, I think it is mainly due to the internal tension between iranian elites. Fundamentally, for the elites within Iran there is no reason to use Artesh because keeping it out of the game allows IRGC to get all the heat and the weaker IRGC becomes the stronger position of Artesh is going to be. It is a situation of "wait and see". Basij is also getting weaker and weaker. So Artesh and the elites behind them has the most to gain by not doing anything.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Is this even close to real? If it is,

 

[Gp1]

Rather than being a second rate, I think it is mainly due to the internal tension between iranian elites. Fundamentally, for the elites within Iran there is no reason to use Artesh because keeping it out of the game allows IRGC to get all the heat and the weaker IRGC becomes the stronger position of Artesh is going to be. It is a situation of "wait and see". Basij is also getting weaker and weaker. So Artesh and the elites behind them has the most to gain by not doing anything.

Unless someone backs out and call it a day before the "clerical" component of the regime gets weak enough.
(I don't think that's going to happen, specially with the amount of forces diverting to the AO, but there are still a possibility)

Just to remember that the Iranian "conventional air force" and the "big boat" surface navy were still part of the Artesh and got destroyed to a point of being combat ineffective, not the IRGC "air" force and navy (the asymmetrical force drones, missiles, fast mine laying boats, etc).

 

[Ozriel]

Trump needs to grow balls and finish the fucking job. For all those in the thread thinking Israel controls him, the min he says stop bibi will atop. Coward.

You're not likely to be 'finishing the fucking job' without ground troops. Or without escalating the situation such that Iran's retaliation severely impacts the gulf states.

 

[Big-G]

There's no way we can hold the ground of a country larger than Eastern Europe.

Especially when the American people don't have the stomach for significant troop casualties.

Exactly, it will be a complete shit show.

 

[ADiTAR]

You're not likely to be 'finishing the fucking job' without ground troops. Or without escalating the situation such that Iran's retaliation severely impacts the gulf states.

I don't agree with that. I'm not in the situation room, but you can also do covert ops that will take it down. There are already boots on the ground in Iran, you just don't know about them. And they could help topple this regime with creative thinking.

 

[ZehDon]

Is this even close to real? If it is,

In terms of his press conferences? More or less. In term's the market? Absolutely. Been watching some of the market shifts being discussed on Reddit. Looks like there's a few big players out there taking big shorts and futures that are netting themselves enormous profits, predicting the impact of Trump's statements perfectly. Almost as if they know what Trump is going to say and when he's going to say it before he does. I'm sure an investigation into these geniuses will begin any second now...

 

[EviLore]

Deploying.