IceDoesntHelp
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Oh you know this, or are you just assuming? If its the former, I'd like to borrow your time machine.
Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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Oh you know this, or are you just assuming? If its the former, I'd like to borrow your time machine.
Well if WiiU is the first console out the door, and it has good sales, there is a good chance it will set the bar graphically next generation.
Then I have to consider the costs of the other consoles. Paying for the more expensive PS3 didnt guarantee the better ports. As a matter of fact, some ports turned out worse.
So then the question is, how many people are going to get multiple consoles again next gen during their launches?
At any rate, I personally don't see the need for anything else besides the WiiU if the WiiU will get the majority, if not all the games offered by third parties. And judging by what the major publishers are planning to, that will be the case. Add that to Nintendo 1st and 2nd party titles, the only other gaming device I might consider is a portable. So if all that Sony and MS are offering are upgraded consoles, Im not interested. Unless they surpass the WiiU graphically like they did with the Wii for the same price as the WiiU. I like the concept of the tablet controller. And I like the fact I can still use my wiimotes and balance board for future games.
bgassassin
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Based on?
AceBandage
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*whistles innocently*
It's a pretty safe assumption that Nintendo isn't going to catch up after being 10 years behind in one fell swoop.
Assuming that Wii U will be 2-3x the current gen and the other consoles will be 8-12x the current-gen, which seems consistent with rumors.
With Nintendo nothing is safe to be assumed. And assumption is the mother...brother of all fuck-ups as they say.
I'd rather wait for the official word in that case. Otherwise, this speculation thread would be nothing but doom-mongering.
AceBandage
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Disorientator
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Fourth Storm
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All depends on the software. Mario seems to be as hot as ever, especially in his 2d manifestations. The sequel to NSMB Wii needs to be inspired. I hope they don't go with the NSMB Mii name and theme. It's really really lame.
Dude, whatever you are taking, I want some.
-Pyromaniac-
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Honestly, I've been slowly convincing myself that I want a wii-u lately barring any nintendo fuck ups. I always had the same thing EatChildren described minus the Wii. I always had a decent to good PC + an n64/dreamcast/gamecube and then later in their respective generations I bought a PS1 and PS2. This gen I had an 360, disliked the few exclusives after a while and got a PS3 year after it came out I think, and all I've been using is that and my PC.
But I don't know, if Nintendo impresses I'm seriously considering going Nintendo first again just like I used to back in the day. I'm just incredibly doubtful when it comes to third party ports and Nintendo finally throwing some dough around to get more things. Will this be the time they do/get both of those.....
But I don't know, if Nintendo impresses I'm seriously considering going Nintendo first again just like I used to back in the day. I'm just incredibly doubtful when it comes to third party ports and Nintendo finally throwing some dough around to get more things. Will this be the time they do/get both of those.....
AceBandage
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Super Mario HD World
They're definitely doing it on the 3DS. Taking Monster Hunter away from Sony is pretty big.
Come on. You can at least agree with the controller part.
AceBandage
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Forsaken82
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Just like it was pretty safe to assume the Wii would end up dead last in sales this gen right?
IceDoesntHelp
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...right.
There's absolutely no way that anybody can say anything meaningful about sales next gen. We know nothing about PS4 and XB3 at all. We know very little about the Wii U. All doom thinking here is probably the result of the E3 presentation. which Nintendo did screw up. That doesn't mean the console will do bad as well. If the Wii U is going to start at $299 with NSMB packed in, it'll have a very good launch at least.
Also BurntPork, what's up with U-turns all the time? It's getting tiresome now.
Also BurntPork, what's up with U-turns all the time? It's getting tiresome now.
-Pyromaniac-
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that's true but I always have this lingering doubt. Also I'm praying that the other 2 don't leapfrop the wii-u so much that engines like Kojima's Fox Engine and Square's new Luminous engine (and all other next-gen engines) for next generation will end up looking like trash on the Wii-U, assuming they get there.
That's my main concern.
AceBandage
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As the Wii proved, anything can happen to effect sales.
The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo needs to have a good launch line up to help bolster both support and a healthy userbase.
The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo needs to have a good launch line up to help bolster both support and a healthy userbase.
In a world where tablets are all the rage?
No.
And about the "gap behind" part. My PC is probably 6-7 years behind the current tech, but when I finally get the money to upgrade, I'm gonna catch up.
When Nintendo decides to go HD, they'll catch up to Sony and Microsoft.
Fourth Storm
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Too good to ever be true.
bgassassin
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LOL. What the one rumor about Xbox3 having a dual GPU? That's the only thing I can think of for you to base that comment on.
I don't agree. The market should have shrunk this gen, but Nintendo successfully brought in the non-gamer and MS and Sony followed. If Nintendo hadn't we'd be seeing constant threads about the PS2 outselling this gen combined. I'm expecting some of those same non-gamers to pass on the next gen. I'm also expecting some of those that are gaming enthusiasts to convert to PC only next gen.
Shadow of the BEAST
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Since its going to have ati gpu its going to have an excellent scaler and image quality. wii/gamecube titles would actually look somewhat acceptable on hd sets.
to bad nintendo is so cheap that they removed gamecube support. Even though its the same fucking system as the wii.
to bad nintendo is so cheap that they removed gamecube support. Even though its the same fucking system as the wii.
-Pyromaniac-
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I think marketing had a big problem with Nintendo selling games. Their marketing always seemed to target the casual audience (with a hugely awkward and lame attempt to target the core thrown in every now and then), and lets face it, they don't buy games that often that aren't nintendo games.
They need to switch up their marketing game if they want the gamers that will go to midnight launches for call of duty and GTA, gamers that will pre-order the skyrims and assassins creeds and so on. The ones that buy games.
bgassassin
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And this is why I think it's asinine for you to be making that 3DS thread.
AceBandage
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It was more because the controller/memory card ports are an unneeded cost, size and heat addition.
Nintendo has tried both, though.
"Targeting the hardcore" during the GameCube era really didn't get them anywhere special.
The reason that hardcore games didn't sell bajillions on the Wii wasn't because of marketing. It was because the Wii had basically no big hardcore games for 2 years outside of Nintendo's and very very niche games.
The question is why are most of use here multi console owners? For instance in my case the only reason I owned both a Wii and 360 this generation is because that's the only way I could get access to the majority of games. If WiiU gets its own games and ports from the other consoles then I'll have no need to own anything else.
Also you're forgetting that graphics aren't the only consideration when it comes to which version of a game to buy.
ShockingAlberto
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Is someone compiling the BurntPork parade of doom?
All I remember is that the 3DS still has 27 days to be discontinued.
All I remember is that the 3DS still has 27 days to be discontinued.
Shadow of the BEAST
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what? The wii u as the same buttons as the gc controller does.
And why would you need memory card when it suppose to have flash memory?
AceBandage
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So you want it to be backwards compatible... but everyone has to start over on all their games... Yeah.
And the way that the BC works, they wouldn't be able to use the Wii U controller.
Wait, it was calendar year? I thought it was fiscal.
Not exactly. To be HD and have support for a controller with a 6.2 inch screen in it, I'm damn sure the architecture of the Wii U is miles different from the original Wii.
Didn't Nintendo also hinted at VC Gamecubes games?
I'm talking about gamers here. You know, the same ones that keep popping into this thread to say that the controller looks uncomfortable and that they should drop the screen completely?
If anything, that fact that it can't act as a stand-alone tablet might end up being more of a turn-off. The people living in this "tablet obsessed world" are already eating their magic apples and aren't going to be interested in something that seems to just be a far inferior and much uglier version.
(And if they do make it look nice and it becomes popular, the asshole who planted the Apple tree will probably sue them and tell them to make it uglier.)
No, that was not a safe assumption at all.
Shadow of the BEAST
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thats how it works on ps3.
sell an adapters for those who wants to use their saves.
Cmd. Pishad'aç
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Actually I'm expecting it to be pretty similar to PS2-Xbox.
Or at the very worst case: 3DS-Vita.
Sure Vita as more power, but RE: Revelations in glorious no-glasses-to-see-this-shit-in-3D-in-your-face is a title that can stand against any Vita title showcase in flat-screen.
Show me, because I heard otherwise.
Search and post history is back. So I want results.
Shadow of the BEAST
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wii and gamecube are the same. If you can emulate wii you can emulate gc,.
and thats why they removed the support. So we could buy the games again.
You did hear otherwise. I'm saying that people who haven't used it keep coming to this thread to say that the controller sucks, and it seems that they don't even want to give it a chance. I thought the "looks" part would have given that away.
-Pyromaniac-
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To me the controller looks uncomfortable for longer gaming sessions (longer being 30mins+) just like the 3DS is for me (and many others), BUT, hands on say it's comfortable, but then again they haven't used it for a long period of time. So we shall see on that front. No doubt it probably will end up scaring some potential gamers away, but who knows it might attract others.
Well then, those people are just stupid.
My must have console of every generation is a Nintendo one, so I'll be getting it. Whether I get another console depends on what it offers me wrt the non gaming features to be honest. This generation it was a PS3 because of BluRay. When buying games the choice comes down to what one version offers over another and to be honest graphics are pretty low on the comparison scale.
Given that I believe we'll see devs do great things with the tablet (both in game and features around the game like sleep mode notifications etc) and/or support IR controls, the Wii U is likely to offer pretty satisfactory options. Add on that we're likely to see all the online features like add-on packs, friend lists etc means I'll probably buy the Wii U version.
In fact, if Nintendo does implement the host of features that we are used to on the other platforms, then I will probably be having my first single system generation in a long time. (Yay, more money for games)
To be honest, 3DS <-> Vita is a huge gap. 3DS has less raw power than the PS2 (though it can compensate with plenty of RAM and modern hardware), whereas PSVita is closer to the Xbox 360 than the original Xbox. A gap like that between Wii U and PS4 is never going to happen, but if it did Nintendo would be in trouble again.Cmd. Pishad'aç;33177289 said:
On another note, I'm thinking the Wii U could become a target for many rereleases. There's a lot of money potentially to be made on a new audience.
Potentially:
The Legend of Zelda HD collection (Wind Waker Aonuma, finish those three dungeons and make it the best game of all time please, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword)
Mario HD collection (Mario Sunshine with Wii controls please, Galaxy 1&2)
Mass Effect Trilogy
Bioshock Trilogy
Assasin's Creed Anthology
Although it's cheap money to make, I would buy some of these definitely. Haven't enjoyed Bioshock as much as I should have this gen.
Forsaken82
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Sure, it is easy to say that now isn't it? Tell that to all the developers that wrote it off though.
-Pyromaniac-
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PS. Nintendo should hire Sakaguchi to be a 2nd party developer.
AceBandage
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Only if they remade the 2D games with hand drawn sprites.
THE:MILKMAN
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This is why I think neither of them should go all out powerful and (above $400) expensive. Much better off putting more resources into games IMO.
If Sony/MS do the above, the difference in power between Wii U, PS4 and 720 should be much less........
I just wish we had more solid hints at what PS720 have hardware wise....sigh.
-Pyromaniac-
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By the time the Wii-U actually launches I think there will be enough leaks/actual info of what xbox3/PS4 will have inside em.
Corleth the Fey
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I'm guessing all the people in this thread that are poo pooing the chances of the Wii U, wasted good internet ink in the past proclaiming how the DS had no chance against the PSP. Or how the Wii and Xbox 360 were going to fall under the wheels of the unstoppable PS3 train.
The future isn't written - only know this - never underestimate Nintendo.
The future isn't written - only know this - never underestimate Nintendo.
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