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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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scar tissue said:
holy shit what?
what if we're both drunk? double rape?
what if only the guy is drunk, did the girl rape him then?
knowing the hypocrisy of the law, probably not.
this is so fucking stupid.
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Both drunk - either or both of you has grounds for claiming rape
Guy drunk - guy has grounds to claim rape

Drinking makes it so neither of you are legally of sound mind to make a sexual decision according to most state laws. It's pretty stupid, but that's how it is.
 
lawlohwhat said:
Both drunk - either or both of you has grounds for claiming rape
Guy drunk - guy has grounds to claim rape

Drinking makes it so neither of you are legally of sound mind to make a sexual decision according to most state laws. It's pretty stupid, but that's how it is.
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So if someone convinces me to kill someone while i'm drunk what happens?

Or what if i'm drunk and i'm talked into committing a terrorist act that undermines the political establishment of the country?

Would I be ok then?
 
lawlohwhat said:
Both drunk - either or both of you has grounds for claiming rape
Guy drunk - guy has grounds to claim rape

Drinking makes it so neither of you are legally of sound mind to make a sexual decision according to most state laws. It's pretty stupid, but that's how it is.
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Actually, I'd like to clarify some things, since many of my law school friends did a case study on this. That, and the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on something very similar.

The problem with impairedness isn't the lack of consent, but the inability to revoke consent anytime afterward. The problem isn't two people getting drunk at a bar and going back to his/her place. The problem is one of them passing out and the other party continuing to do the deed.
 
Gaf, I've been experiencing some distress lately, and I think a big reason for it is the lack of anything new in my life.

My last serious girlfriend was three years ago. Last time I had sex was last year at a Halloween party, lost my virginity and was drunk as fuck off of Four Loko's so I don't even remember it. (Chick tells me I didn't wear a condom either... holy fuck was I scared for a few weeks.) I've felt stagnant in life, and think a girl could help me get back on my feet. You know, a reason to clean up, be socially mobile, that kind of stuff.

Thing is, I've had the same circle of friends for years. I literally know no girls who are worthy dating material.

So, I guess this means heading out and meeting new people, correct? I know my options are huge, as I'm at a State University, but I've been so complacent with my current group of friends that I feel like my "new encounter" skills are rusty.

Where do you guys recommend I begin?
 
Kad5 said:
So if someone convinces me to kill someone while i'm drunk what happens?

Or what if i'm drunk and i'm talked into committing a terrorist act that undermines the political establishment of the country?

Would I be ok then?
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Involuntary, you have grounds for a solid defense for a homicide. Voluntary, you're fucked.
 
Mordeccai said:
Gaf, I've been experiencing some distress lately, and I think a big reason for it is the lack of anything new in my life.

My last serious girlfriend was three years ago. Last time I had sex was last year at a Halloween party, lost my virginity and was drunk as fuck off of Four Loko's so I don't even remember it. (Chick tells me I didn't wear a condom either... holy fuck was I scared for a few weeks.) I've felt stagnant in life, and think a girl could help me get back on my feet. You know, a reason to clean up, be socially mobile, that kind of stuff.

Thing is, I've had the same circle of friends for years. I literally know no girls who are worthy dating material.

So, I guess this means heading out and meeting new people, correct? I know my options are huge, as I'm at a State University, but I've been so complacent with my current group of friends that I feel like my "new encounter" skills are rusty.

Where do you guys recommend I begin?
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Get your friends to just be wingmen for you at new places. But someone said pages ago, maybe you just fix yourself for yourself instead of some girl. it would make the process go alot easier.
 
overcast said:
So I touched bare vagina for the first time today!..

But seriously, apparently it kind of hurts when I stick my middle finger in. I have big hands so that may be the reason? She's a virgin, so that probably has something to do with it.
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She was probably nervous and tensed up. It shouldn't hurt. For the record sex with a virgin is the worst sex possible.
 
Kad5 said:
Any area where you can be social and it isn't sex segregated.
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SRG01 said:
Anywhere that's socially acceptable to talk to the opposite sex? So, basically anywhere except bathrooms, changerooms, and womens-only stores/sections?
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hahaha........let be serious here guys. i doubt 90% of the guys on here met their girls at the mall or bookstore. what i'm asking is, what is your most effective area when you're out there looking for a girl. dating sites works too since i noticed most you guys use that.

Minamu said:
From the other thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fpWjNn4YdU
It's inspiring to see in so many ways :)
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it's a kool video, but what's so inspiring about it?
 
Hi.

I've been talking again ( or chatting with) to a girl I used to talk all the time some time ago.

She was a friend of mine but she was really cute and kind with me, but we were just friends, nothing serious.

I stopped talking to her because I got tired of a lot of things that she did that made me very angry, we hadn't talked for about a year or so.

Suddenly, she sent me an email a month ago, and well sometimes we chat in msn.

The truth is, that I do not want to be friends anymore with her, how can I politely say her that I dont want to be friends with her, its either sex or gtfo?.
 
I used to be a bit of a hater, now I love the Simple Pickup videos. They're hilarious and a great reminder that confidence works when you actually have/use it.

Congrats, Kong.
 
Guys what should I do for a third date with this girl?

First was dinner.
Second was bowling and a drink after.
Third? Maybe meet up for lunch and go for a walk somewhere?

Im not sure about inviting back to my place as I still live with my family and so does she. Might be a bit a awkward too soon?

I havnt kissed her yet but I defently want to do it on the third date.
Just need to find the right enviroment.
Not like a parking lot when parting ways.
 
TheVampire said:
Guys what should I do for a third date with this girl?

First was dinner.
Second was bowling and a drink after.
Third? Maybe meet up for lunch and go for a walk somewhere?

Im not sure about inviting back to my place as I still live with my family and so does she. Might be a bit a awkward too soon?

I havnt kissed her yet but I defently want to do it on the third date.
Just need to find the right enviroment.
Not like a parking lot when parting ways.
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Tell your parents you're bringing a girl back and not to avoid you and her?

That's what I would do if I was hoping to score that night.
 
Coffee shops, bars, sports, dancing, dance classes, birthday parties, in class (back when I was a student), concerts/shows, etc.

Attackthebase said:
Whoops, I missed that part. His objective should be a kiss-close during the third date. Get that shit over with!
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My ex beat me to the punch on our second date. I gave her a hug and a peck on the cheek at the end of the date... and she replied with multiple kisses. I need a few seconds to realize what was going on, hahaha.
 
soultron said:
I used to be a bit of a hater, now I love the Simple Pickup videos. They're hilarious and a great reminder that confidence works when you actually have/use it.

Congrats, Kong.
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There are plenty of facepalm moments, but overall the videos are pretty awesome. In fact I think I'm gonna steal some of those lines for random approaches when I get the balls to do so. XD

I do wonder though if a lot of those girls wouldn't pick up, though. Even a loser like me can get numbers easily--that's the easy part. The hard part is finding a girl who actually will pick up.

::edit:: I'll add that I probably need to get back into my P90x rhythm to get my testosterone levels flowing and my belly a little slimmer... to be honest, I'm morbidly curious about actually going about using the pickup next semester.
 
grap3fruitman said:
Maybe if you live near a college those are viable options.
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How on earth are there not cafes, bars, sporting events, dance class/studios, and/or concerts/shows in your area?

I am asking this as a serious question, because I live in a place in Canada surrounded by small towns and many people have no problem finding others.
 
CherryWoodFuton said:
She told me she fucked over a guy before by going back to her ex bf before him. She also thinks that "I'm too good for her" and etc etc....
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You need more data than just that. It totally depends on the circumstances of why she went back to her ex, and why she left him again.
 
I'm slowly starting to work my way back into the single world, and it's not as hard as I thought it was three years back. Now I can have a conversation with anyone and have them genuinely interested. What I've learned is that people are going to be interested in you no matter what if you actually believe you're a great guy.

Prior to all of this, I always thought I was a piece of shit and had to prove to people that I was a good guy. Now I know I'm a good looking, smart, nice guy and all I have to do is talk to a person and they'll see.

My advice for anyone else who's single: get to know yourself, understand your strengths and then go out and talk to people. Once you understand who you are, you'll feel confident. Confidence is not about putting on a smile and walking up to a girl. Confidence is doing those things, and knowing you're the fucking bomb.
 
So, seems every girl I've messaged in the past week has looked at my profile, but none have responded. :-\

Yeah, it's about looks. This is starting to feel pointless.
 
So this is kind of random but here goes.

I was at the bar today after my kickball league's playoffs ended, and at one point I found myself chatting up this cute girl who was not involved with kickball. We talked for a few minutes and I discovered that she lives like 2 blocks away from me.

Right when I was about to ask her for her number, a guy who was in the group she was with came out and got her to go back in to play pool. However! She told me if I'm ever walking my dog by her place (because I mentioned I walk my dog out at night a lot) that I should stop by and knock on her door and she gave me her address and apartment number.

I'm guessing that actually doing this would probably never work out?
 
SRG01 said:
How on earth are there not cafes, bars, sporting events, dance class/studios, and/or concerts/shows in your area?
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There really aren't in my area but the ones that are there are populated by older folks and families. I was trying to say that those places are only viable options if you're nearer to a college campus, which would be populated by younger people.
 
Still owe you guys an update, but I just got done with the work I've been doing the entire day.

Although I did have some time to text for a little while... We were exchanging hellos and all that good stuff, talking about last night, and since I had asked her to let me know when she was available again, she texted today that she's free tuesday. I'm thinking The Muppets movie... cause I want to see it and I can't bring myself to go alone to watch it lol. There's a Movie/Bar/Grille type thing near her place so I figure it won't just be the typical movie date.
 
grap3fruitman said:
There really aren't in my area but the ones that are there are populated by older folks and families. I was trying to say that those places are only viable options if you're nearer to a college campus, which would be populated by younger people.
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Not even a Starbucks? Or indie coffee shop? Not even a community board for sporting events? Not even a rec centre with facilities? No diners? Pubs? Local hang-outs? Shops? You don't have to live close to a college to have any of these!

edit: What I'm trying to say is that there really are more places out there.
 
bluemax said:
So this is kind of random but here goes.

I was at the bar today after my kickball league's playoffs ended, and at one point I found myself chatting up this cute girl who was not involved with kickball. We talked for a few minutes and I discovered that she lives like 2 blocks away from me.

Right when I was about to ask her for her number, a guy who was in the group she was with came out and got her to go back in to play pool. However! She told me if I'm ever walking my dog by her place (because I mentioned I walk my dog out at night a lot) that I should stop by and knock on her door and she gave me her address and apartment number.

I'm guessing that actually doing this would probably never work out?
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Why would it never work out? She gave you her address and apartment number and invited you over. I swear the biggest problem I see with guys in this thread is the inability to take a hint. Either good or bad. If she didn't want you to come over she wouldn't have given you her address. What do you have to lose by going over there? If you never try it you'll never know either way. If you try and get shut down then you will have at least taken the shot.
 
NihonTiger90 said:
So, seems every girl I've messaged in the past week has looked at my profile, but none have responded. :-\

Yeah, it's about looks. This is starting to feel pointless.
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Have you posted your profile here?

OKC is definitely less shallow than say, POF. But you need good pictures and a good profile to have success.
 
SRG01 said:
Not even a Starbucks? Or indie coffee shop? Not even a community board for sporting events? Not even a rec centre with facilities? No diners? Pubs? Local hang-outs? Shops? You don't have to live close to a college to have any of these!

edit: What I'm trying to say is that there really are more places out there.
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Again, you kept misreading my post. I'm not saying that these places aren't here, I'm saying they're filled with older folks and families.
 
grap3fruitman said:
Again, you kept misreading my post. I'm not saying that these places aren't here, I'm saying they're filled with older folks and families.
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No, I'm not misreading your post. How on earth is STARBUCKS filled with older folks and families?

The implicit message in my post is to challenge your own viewpoints as to where you can meet new people.
 
NihonTiger90 said:
I lack one, sadly. And the bar scene around here is ... well, it's all really young kids.
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Oh ok. A wing man isn't really needed to talk to a girl. I've found that a wingman is there to reinvigorate a dying conversation. They should never be an integral part to lassoing a girl.

A bar isn't needed either. I met my exes at a party, concert, Italian festival, and a Dunkin Donuts. The bar is not the best place to pick up a girl if you're looking for a real relationship. However, it honestly seems like you really don't like yourself and you down yourself too quickly. You should never do that. I advise you to write down as many positive things about yourself, and start to tell yourself those positive things on a daily basis.
 
JambiBum said:
Why would it never work out? She gave you her address and apartment number and invited you over. I swear the biggest problem I see with guys in this thread is the inability to take a hint. Either good or bad. If she didn't want you to come over she wouldn't have given you her address. What do you have to lose by going over there? If you never try it you'll never know either way. If you try and get shut down then you will have at least taken the shot.
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I dunno, she could've given me a wrong address! Nothing ventured, nothing gained though!
 
SRG01 said:
No, I'm not misreading your post. How on earth is STARBUCKS filled with older folks and families?

The implicit message in my post is to challenge your own viewpoints as to where you can meet new people.
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Well, the one Starbucks nearby in the next town has old people in it who often bring their grandkids. The park district that I work out at? Families drop off their kids for activities and only old folks (50+) work out there besides me.
 
grap3fruitman said:
Well, the one Starbucks nearby in the next town has old people in it who often bring their grandkids. The park district that I work out at? Families drop off their kids for activities and only old folks (50+) work out there besides me.
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Serious question: What time of day do you go to this Starbucks? I'm asking this as a person who has worked at Starbucks before. Grandparents and older people usually show up early in the day, and the younger clientele drop by later in the afternoon/evening. That, and girls love Caramel Macciatos and Fraps.
 
SRG01 said:
There has to be a story behind this.
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I was hanging out with my good friend in the parking lot on a pretty shitty Friday night during my senior year of high school. The Baconator just came out, my friend and I drove to Wendys to pick up one and drove to a Dunkin Donuts parking lot near my house to eat them in his car. While we were eating, a bunch of drunk high school kids from the town over stumbled to our car. They were really friendly and we started to fuck with them a little. One of the drunk girls came over to my window and asked why we were being jerks. I thought she was cute and flirted with her, five minutes later she left, but I had her number.

The next morning we met up for breakfast and hit it off from there. I was together with her for over a year. I then realized she was fucking crazy and bailed out.
 
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