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It will be.

But I'm going to stop trolling and get this thread back onto James Cameron now.

What does GAF think of Point Break (1991) & Strange Days (1995)? Films he didn't direct but helped write?
 
MikeMyers said:
It will be.

But I'm going to stop trolling and get this thread back onto James Cameron now.

What does GAF think of Point Break (1991) & Strange Days (1995)? Films he didn't direct but helped write?
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Good and great, respectively. And I strongly disliked The Hurt Locker.
 
MikeMyers said:
It will be.

But I'm going to stop trolling and get this thread back onto James Cameron now.

What does GAF think of Point Break (1991) & Strange Days (1995)? Films he didn't direct but helped write?
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Both great movies. Strange Days is probably Bigelow's best movie. Cameron's scriptment for it s great.

But yeah, Cameron pretty much ghost wrote and came up with action sequences for Point Break, which is kind of a little known fact I guess.

Kathryn Bigelow pretty much only makes good movies when she's backed by Cameron, Near Dark aside.
 
I love that this thread is still going =)

Went back and watched the making of recently and it still amazes me what they went through to make this film. I still wish we could get a few of the deleted scenes finished (dream sequence for one).
 
Point Break is one of absolute all time favorite movies. I was like 10 the first time saw it, it was so real.
 
Jtwo said:
Point Break is one of absolute all time favorite movies. I was like 10 the first time saw it, it was so real.
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Are you ready for the remake?!?!?!

I thought they already remade it with Fast and Furious, but no they really have to remake it.
 
StuBurns said:
I don't understand why a higher framerate would mean the individual frames take longer to render.
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I think he means the entire process, since there are more frames overall to render. I'm sure we'll get a recap of the event since it happened today.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
You would think with advancing computer technology, at some point rendering CGI would take less time.
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It would if people were willing to keep the same quality as before, you could make Toy Story 1 CG massively quicker than at the time, but they choose to make a richer visual experience that still ends up taking a very long time.
 
I just saw True Lies for the first time, and the most magnificent thing happened. There was a scene in which Arnold was riding a horse and the bad guy was riding a motorcycle and they were going through a fucking hotel. The entire scene was ridiculously awesome.

Even if Cameron were to slap my mother, i'd still love him just for that scene.
 
StuBurns said:
I don't understand why a higher framerate would mean the individual frames take longer to render.
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I think he is just saying (In general) Avatar 2 will take longer to fully render because they have more frames to render now. The 100 hours just to give people a scope of just 'how' many more hours or how much larger a render farm they will need.

Edit: bah beaten, knew someone else would get to it before I hit post.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
You would think with advancing computer technology, at some point rendering CGI would take less time.
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It does, it will. Cameron has said that rendering at a higher framerate would incur approximately a 10% increase in the CG budget. They're working to reduce it to 1% or less.

Those "it took 1 trillion hours to render a frame" bullet points are disingenuous anyway.
 
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/james_cameron_party_chat.html

Sigourney is giving you the award tonight, and she’s supposed to be in Avatar 2, despite her character dying in the first Avatar.
Did I say she was going to be in Avatar 2? [Grins.]

She said she was.
Well, I don’t want to disabuse her of that fantasy. But have you ever heard of nonlinear storytelling? A lot happens on that planet before she shows up, and before Jake shows up to join her. She’s there for fifteen years ahead of time. I don’t know, but I wouldn’t jump to conclusions. And I’ve already said way too much about Avatar 2 and 3 here and there, but people piece it together like those voice cameos and tell the whole story!

Okay, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t like what they did to Ripley when she died.
Okay, here’s the deal. When you have a science-fiction series, a science-fiction franchise, you’re never dead, unless your DNA is expunged from the universe. And then there’s always time travel!

You’re also working on Avatar at Disney World. What’s going to happen there? What would you like to see?
We’re going to meet and discuss it. They have big plans for it. They want to do a land, a number of different attractions, maybe a flight attraction, and retail outlets, things like that, make a whole environment of it, a themed experience. You would feel like you’re on Pandora. So I think my job and what I look forward to doing is making sure it’s consistent with Na’vi culture, with the themes and values of Avatar, and the next films as well. And they seem very open to that.

Are you going to be full force in Avatar world for the foreseeable future, or will you still be able to dabble here and there on other projects?
Not for the next five years! My next film, films are Avatar 2 and 3.
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Next 5 years? Prepping for delays!
 
ABC interviewed Cameron at his ranch.

Video: http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/james-cameron-reveals-project-14725822

I've always had a bad feeling that in going to the oceans, Cameron was going to continue the environmental preaching in lieu of the BP bullshit.

I have great respect for Cameron and am still looking forward to the sequels, but man do I wish he wouldn't cripple the potential of his stories with this shit. Hopefully it doesn't come across too hard.
 
MikeMyers said:
It will be.

But I'm going to stop trolling and get this thread back onto James Cameron now.

What does GAF think of Point Break (1991) & Strange Days (1995)? Films he didn't direct but helped write?
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Point break should not be as good as it is. The pacing is pretty wonky, and the performances are bad.

But it's a really fun movie anyways, I love it.
 
Scullibundo said:
Cameron talks about the sequels.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=83306
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I was pleased to read this:

But he did say he's not going to stuff the environmental issues down our throat. "I'm not going to become more strident. I'm not going to say, 'well, we got away with this much environmental content in the first movie, now there's double.' Because I think that would be a mistake. It has to be entertainment first and foremost."
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I was okay with the level of environmental preaching in Avatar. So long as he's not merely repeating himself, it'll be fine.
 
cloud_sleep said:
Some cool Avatar concept art galleries:

http://www.ryanchurch.com/avatar/

http://www.dylancolestudio.com/

http://www.benprocter.com/avatar/
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Thanks, I'm always happy to see more Avatar artwork. I'll check this out after work.

On the topic of Avatar artwork, does anyone have a better version of this:

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I still can't believe how much I've turned around on this film. I really didn't enjoy it when I saw in its original run, but I've grown to greatly appreciate it after seeing bits and pieces repeatedly on HBO. I can't wait for the sequels.
 
I want my 3D Extended Edition dammit. It's such a crime that one of the best use of 3D in a movie doesn't have a wide release on BD.

You want to know what's killing 3D? Lack of content. If I wasn't a gamer, I would be pissed that I spent thousands of dollars on a tv and 3d glasses only to have a handful of movies to watch in 3d.
 
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Ben Proctor said:
I had the lucky task of developing Jim's concept for the ISV Venture Star interstellar vehicle, starting from Jim's sketches and copious technical notes and delivering a partially textured 3D asset which was adapted for final shots by Blur studio (which uses Softimage and could open my native scene files). Enormous help with design, detailed modelling, and even texturing came from three brilliant friends - Tex Kadonaga, Joe Hiura, and Rob Johnson. I was the master planner of the ship but these guys designed a lot of the critical components. It was not unlike the real development of the ISS!
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I've always loved the Design of the Venture Star.

It makes me miss the now canceled JIMO even more:

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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/jimo/
 
So have they given any indication as to when pre-production will commence? Surely it would have to be by mid-2012, which is only like 7 months away.
 
Solo said:
So have they given any indication as to when pre-production will commence? Surely it would have to be by mid-2012, which is only like 7 months away.
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How do you define "pre-production"? Surely designers have already started working. Also, Joel David Moore was on The Nerdist podcast this week and he made it sound as if actual shooting was set to begin some time relative soon in 2012.
 
For the past 5 months or so they've rented out a fucking huge studio space with like 8 Soundstages in California just for the sequels' development. Cameron apparently will have his own private gym there because he's basically going to be living there.

From what I remember, he's already got artists working on designs and ideas he's throwing at them, but still hasn't finished writing the scripts.

I'd be very surprised if it makes its 2014 release date.
 
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