Yeah, the extent to which your system is GPU bound is going to affect what, if any, benefit you see.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC Performance discussion
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Yeah, the extent to which your system is GPU bound is going to affect what, if any, benefit you see.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I kept them just because. Stick that src folder in the same root directory as the dx8 and SkyBoost files.
RukusProvider
Banned
Just a OC test of your GPU. Do the looking at Whiterun which your stock speed + skyboost.
Then exit the game, OC your GPU to the max you feel comfortable and do the Whiterun + skyboost again.
For me, my FPS remianed the same meaning I wasn't being gpu limited but skyboost gave me a 12dfps advantage which tells me that I'm now at the mercy of game engine optimization for better performance.
Just wanted to see if others with high end setups notice the same thing.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yes, not that I don't want to run that sort of test but I've already ran it in read about it to the point of exhaustion 
The game is CPU limited when it should be the GPU which should dictate the fps more. These last couple of CPU fixes exposed what optimization's could do. We already figured out the LAA issue really early on and fixed it and then Beth followed suit and finally implemented it themselves. Now we're seeing the community find fantastic solutions that really make the difference.
Long story short, you are seeing what you're seeing because the game wasn't optimized.
My setup is a 2500k@4.7, 6970 2GB, and 8GB RAM
The game is CPU limited when it should be the GPU which should dictate the fps more. These last couple of CPU fixes exposed what optimization's could do. We already figured out the LAA issue really early on and fixed it and then Beth followed suit and finally implemented it themselves. Now we're seeing the community find fantastic solutions that really make the difference.
Long story short, you are seeing what you're seeing because the game wasn't optimized.
My setup is a 2500k@4.7, 6970 2GB, and 8GB RAM
RukusProvider
Banned
Yes, not that I don't want to run that sort of test but I've already ran it in read about it to the point of exhaustion
The game is CPU limited when it should be the GPU which should dictate the fps more. These last couple of CPU fixes exposed what optimization's could do. We already figured out the LAA issue really early on and fixed it and then Beth followed suit and finally implemented it themselves. Now we're seeing the community find fantastic solutions that really make the difference.
Long story short, you are seeing what you're seeing because the game wasn't optimized.
My setup is a 2500k@4.7, 6970 2GB, and 8GB RAM
Yeah. I'm going to just run my GPU at stock. No need to stress is when there is no benefit. Instead, I'll wait for community optimizations and such. Thanks for keeping the thread updated btw.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If anything, try getting the best driver and maybe OC'ing it if you can. Otherwise, don't look for huge yields like the CPU optimization's or the dev/community fixes.
bananaman1234
Unconfirmed Member
If you use radeonpro you have to set it through there since it overrides CCC.
Okay, I haven't done any ini tweaking, and when I installed that skyboost mod and switched the details to ultra I was getting 65-70fps outside Whiterun. Looks like I can do plenty more tweaking if I wanted but it looks fantastic to me so I may just leave it alone.
Oh and the new Nvida drivers are awesome. Definitely improved Skyrim performance.
Oh and the new Nvida drivers are awesome. Definitely improved Skyrim performance.
dcarpenter85
Neo Member
Mods:
SkyBoost
Skyrim HD
Vurt's Skyrim Flora Overhaul
Xenius Character Enhancement
SkyUI
Glowing Ore Veins 300
My Specs:
i5 750 @ 3.2ghz
8gb DDR3 @ 1600mhz
RadeonHD 6950 2gb @ 850/1300
16xAF forced in CCC, Adaptive AA enabled with 8xAA via Skyrim Launcher (trying to force AA from CCC wasn't working for me, so just using launcher's setting)
These are the only .ini settings I have tweaked:
Skyrim.ini
[General]
uGridsToLoad=9
uInterior Cell Buffer=17
uExterior Cell Buffer=102
iPreloadSizeLimit=262144000
fdefaultfov=85
[Papyrus]
iMinMemoryPageSize=100000
iMaxMemoryPageSize=5000000
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1800000000
SkyrimPrefs.ini
[General]
fdefaultfov=85
[Display]
iWaterMultiSamples=4
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000
[Papyrus]
iMinMemoryPageSize=100000
iMaxMemoryPageSize=5000000
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1800000000
ChoklitReign
Member
Skyboost is amazing; it's far better than TESVAL. The game's finally 60 FPS 80% of the time. Specs are an Intel Core i3 2100 and Gigabyte Radeon 6850.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Is there a first-person horse mod?
What kind of bone-headed decision was it to force third-person when riding a horse? Shit sucks.
What kind of bone-headed decision was it to force third-person when riding a horse? Shit sucks.
For those using the Nexus Mod manager you can just download skyboost and enable it. Not sure why they didn't just call the file skyboost since that is what it is.
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4672
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4672
Thank you, I'll try those and report back
Alternatively you can try SkyBoost, which only requires you to put two files (dinput8.dll and SkyBoost.asi) in your base Skyrim directory. The one where TESV.exe is located.
Don't need to run SKSE for that, or worry about using a loader, but you might want to install and use SKSE anyway for mods like SkyUI.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
A little better.
Pretty much.
Arisu is the original mod author of the TESV Acceleration Layer, so he's responsible for the bulk of all the optimisation work.
The author of SkyBoost, Alexander Blade, then took the source for TESVAL that Arisu provided to the community, reworked it into C++, made it use Script Dragon (which he also created) instead of SKSE, and added Windows 8 support and a few minor optimisations of his own.
PigSpeakers
Member
Hey, I just got this on Christmas and was trying some mods using Mod Organizer. What does it mean when some of the mods are grayed out but others are not?
undercoverb0ss
Member
Is this really the Skyboost that is being discussed? Seems like just .ini files. I don't see any mention of Skyboost.asi that previous posts refer to.
This is getting a little complex, hopefully I can run this well
Guys. I need some help.
This is my first foray into PC gaming. I've got a decent machine - close to recommended specs for Skyrim. Here's a list of what I'm working with:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Memory: (RAM) 4.00 GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Plenty of memory, running of a dedicated HDD. Yet, it looks like this:
What the fuck is going on? Also, I can't play more than 5 minutes without my CPU overheating - even with Windows 95 graphics. Using the stock i5 heatsink. Think it's worth upgrading to something more substantial?
Edit - wow. Um, okay. Apparently my card was behind a few updates. This is the difference:
The question about the overheating CPU remains though...
This is my first foray into PC gaming. I've got a decent machine - close to recommended specs for Skyrim. Here's a list of what I'm working with:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Memory: (RAM) 4.00 GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Plenty of memory, running of a dedicated HDD. Yet, it looks like this:
What the fuck is going on? Also, I can't play more than 5 minutes without my CPU overheating - even with Windows 95 graphics. Using the stock i5 heatsink. Think it's worth upgrading to something more substantial?
Edit - wow. Um, okay. Apparently my card was behind a few updates. This is the difference:
The question about the overheating CPU remains though...
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
Guys. I need some help.
I just had to comment that picture really hits the nostalgia button its like skyrim in Daggerfall Shader mode..kinda cool
Angelus Errare
Banned
I agree, it looks awesome.
I think you need a better fan or you haven't installed the one you have properly. Like put too much paste there or something like that.
Refreshment.01
Member
TESV Acceleration Layer :
Does the MOD boost the fps at all times or just at specific locations?
If that's the case are there many situations like that trough out all the game?
Does the MOD boost the fps at all times or just at specific locations?
If that's the case are there many situations like that trough out all the game?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Mainly cities but it boosts general performance. You're quite behind as there is an even better mod that trumps that one in SkyBoost.
It improves the performance in CPU limited situations. To what extent this applies depends on the CPU/GPU balance of your system, but it's mostly the case in towns.
The latest TESVAL doesn't seem to have any drawbacks though, so I see no reason not to use it.
Aesius
Member
HOLY SHIT. I love this!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That true but Skyboost does that and has better performance. I had to swtich!
Dude, that's awesome!! Haha it makes me want to go play Doom...
Edit: And yeah that CPU should not be overheating, make sure you installed the heat sink correctly and that the fans in your case are working.
Refreshment.01
Member
How do you install it?
Just copy "dinput8.dll" and "SkyBoost.asi" to the games folder. Is that it?
So no need for script extender or anything like that?
RukusProvider
Banned
That's it. Just copy those into the skyrim install directory main folder.
Refreshment.01
Member
Thanks, sorry to be reiterative but to uninstall i just delete those 2 files and everything goes back to normal?
You forgot to take the plastic film off the heat sink.
RukusProvider
Banned
Yep. Do a before/after test for a free hard on.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Sounds right. I've seen it done quite a few times.
Confidence Man
Member
For people who have tried the ENB mod but found it too bright/colorful/bizzare, try this custom profile: http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4142
A few tweaks to make it slightly less bloomy and saturated and you've got what is probably the best visual enhancement so far. It's a bit of a performance hit but with the new mods it's pretty playable.
A few tweaks to make it slightly less bloomy and saturated and you've got what is probably the best visual enhancement so far. It's a bit of a performance hit but with the new mods it's pretty playable.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Not a bad mod there but it's just too dark for me. Like the lighting in that one shot of what looks like Winterhold, the lighting by the doors is just too subdued. It's a shame that you couldn't mod individual sections of every part of the world. I wouldn't mind that.
This one
That one isn't even the "after dark" one.
This one
That one isn't even the "after dark" one.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
There is a "Normal Nights and Caves" folder in the mod.
Here are some comparisons, it's quite a hefty performance hit:
The bloom is a hit or miss, but it's getting somewhere.
Here are some comparisons, it's quite a hefty performance hit:
The bloom is a hit or miss, but it's getting somewhere.
Confidence Man
Member
Another thing you can do is cut the AOAmount down a couple notches, from 0.8 to 0.6. I found the default setting a little too strong, especially on the trees.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Not bad in some aspects but the bloom in the shot looking into Whiterun is almost hiding detail due to the bloom and other things. The one overlooking Whiterun is better but something about the vanilla look just looks better to me. I've edited my ini to render a little better so maybe that's why.
I'll give it a whirl though. See with my own eyes.
I'll give it a whirl though. See with my own eyes.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
I think it looks better here:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Result - There is a tremendous hit to fps and frankly some of the effects are nice but not worth the hit. I could probably tweaks some thing in color to get some similar effect but the bottom line is that it's made for higher high end PC's. Even then I don't know if I could recommend it. It's definitely not terrible though. And indoors locations run the same. It's the outdoors which took a hit. Like half the frame rate bad.
1 comparion
before
after
Random shot
I do agree with the last post too. Nice. The bloom or whatever is going on with the ENB settings is messing up the clarity though. Textures just aren't as good. But them scenic shots have some great screenshot potential. It just can't be a permanent solution with the fps hit unfortunately.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
It's so awesome that you can switch it on/off instantly (shift F12). PC gaming!!!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Really?! Now I may want to keep it for dungeons lol
1 more comparison since I found the file on my pic list
before
after
I don't know. I just deleted it but am looking into something to at least improve colors a little. I really, really like the look of vanilla though. At least with the ini I've crafted for myself.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
It just hides the lack of detail at distances. Though I do think it looks pretty good for everything but that dragon shot.