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[SCULLIBUNDO]

well i was kind of joking but from your tone it sounds like i might have. explain.

Whilst Damon's character had asked her to move in, it was more in a sense of adding her to the apartment than letting her add to the apartment. Like another accomplishment or ode to success showing how far he has come. This is shown in him asking her to leave her photo (read: baggage, who she is and her past) where it won't be seen - as that is what Damon has done with his own life.

So then when Costigan visits her whilst she's in the midst of clearing out the rest of her stuff and uprooting her life for Damon, he hangs the photo back up in a gesture that says the opposite (as Costigan himself would have to remind himself constantly to not forget where he actually comes from) which is sympathetic and more in line with Farminga's character.

 

[Raziel]

no then, i didnt miss anything. thats why i brought up the picture specifically - when costigan hung up the pic i knew that was the movie telling us the shrink knows everything she needs to know lol.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I guess I took your comment as if asking if that act was the entire motivation, which in retrospect was silly on my behalf. Apologies.

 

[Amagon]

Eureka Seven: Sleep Tight Young Lovers - Its been a while since I saw an anime movie but I was a big fan of the series. Though, this movie was an alternate universe of the series and after watching this for my own sake, yup, this movie is shit. Convoluted, confusing mess with the story, the way how the characters react to one and another was bad and it was too much lovey-dovey in my book. Steer clear from this movie if you ever want to watch it.

 

[AlternativeUlster]

A complete misunderstanding. He reads into a lot of things wrongly, I believe. I never sensed that the movie was homophobic, but the character did seem somewhat so. It is clear that he isn't at all attracted to men. It wasn't like he walked into the underground gay club in Irreversible.

Your friend tried to simplify things down too much using film theory. The fact is, Steve McQueen is sort of like Tom Ford (who directed the brilliant A Single Man). He doesn't follow the rules. He might be aware of them, but there is a sense of someone trying to say something they believe to be important in the way that most intuitively strikes them. It makes films like Hunger, Shame, and A Single Man feel personal and intelligent. I can see why someone learning film would take offense to some of the methods employed because it might no longer be stylish in that world, but these films are brilliant.

Steve McQueen and Michael Fassbender obviously did a ton of research for the movie, I imagine much more than critics like this, so I get frustrated when they level criticism against a portrayal of something they don't understand as well as the filmmakers.

It is very much about his sex addiction. The loneliness is an effect of it.

Not to be snobby but Tom Ford and Steve McQueen should not be compared in the slightest. Tom Ford is one of those people with one film has proven that with his background (being one of the most exceptional fashion designers) that he can bring something different to film (even though I wouldn't call A Single Man boundary breaking, it is however one of the finer crafted films that greatly enhances his storytelling). Steve McQueen hasn't shown that and would throw him out of the room when we are talking about radical filmmaking. Hunger's boarish 2nd act are typical political affair which destroys his magnificent 1st act that I think the frustration lead me to call it one of the worst films of the year just because it was so disappointing on that front (granted I haven't seen Hunger since it came out in theaters but Shame isn't going to convince me to do a rewatch).

I don't understand why people studying film would take offense to his methods because they are no longer stylish. What classic film methods are you even talking about? Making medicore films that somehow gain acclaim but in 10 years time they are bargain bin titles along with films starring Pauly Shore? Then yeah, I am tired of that.

Oh swoon, sadly I had to return Criss Cross to the video store for it was due and I think my VCR is causing a weird hum so I will rerent it sometime this week. My pick up today was A Serbian Film (why not?), The Pillow Book (first 90s Greenaway, I am excited), Heart of Glass (has my favorite Popul Vuh soundtrack for Herzog so I am sure I will love it), Jerman's The Tempest (hate Jubilee so this will my 2nd Jerman attempt), and Suicide Club since Love Exposure was checked out and was wanting to rewatch it.

 

[Divius]

So yesterday I saw The 36th Chamber of the Shaolin and it was fucking awesome. The people I watched it with were surprised it was considered a classic (or at least, why it has the reputation it does) since they apparently all had seen better classic kungfu movies, but it was my first and I loved it. All those swooshes when they swing weapons, those amazing training sequences, those dramatic zooms! ohmy. I really should look into the Shaw Brothers' work. 9/10

 

[mickcenary]

DUDE.

THE SKIN I LIVE IN.

WHAT.

 

[Enco]

Carriers. I enjoyed it. Nothing amazing but entertaining.

Killer Elite. Pretty awesome film. Very fun watch. Loved the cast and was entertained throughout.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Watched a couple movies on Netflix.

Bunraku. Horrible. Horrible.

Shaolin. Not bad actually. Nice to see Jackie Chan in a supporting role. Only complaints were, that I had no idea what country the white people were from. Their uniforms were vaguely American, but other trapping were British. And what's with Asian movies with historical setting and out of place modern day fashionable haircuts?

 

[DieNgamers]

I watched a few classic horror movies this week. Mostly those starring the one and only Vincent Price!

the pit and the pendulum (1961) - A warm and spooky film, Price is awesome (as always) in this one. From a tortured mind to a vile and evil torturer in one movie!

the abominable dr phibes & dr phibes rises again - two really strange, funny and stylish movies that act as a vehicle for some of Vincent Price's best moments! Not very scary by today's standards but really creative and unique!

I'll watch The Comedy of Terrors next. : )


blood on satan's claw (1972) - a very slow moving and from time to time shocking movie about satan worship and witchcraft in an innocent village. I really enjoyed this one!

 

[daviyoung]

Vincent Price has the best voice an actor has ever had.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Also, Gaf, can you recommend me your best depressing/moving/impacting films that you'd deem imperative viewing? I'm in a mood where I want movies to make me feel vulnerable/alive.

Some classics have already been mentioned. Tyrannosaur is the saddest film that i've seen last year.

 

[DieNgamers]

Vincent Price has the best voice an actor has ever had.

I agree. The movie could be about harvesting potatoes and his dialogues would still be inspiring.

 

[iSimon]

50/50

Absolutely incredible.

 

[UrbanRats]

Sweet. I'm definitely intrigued.

Also, Gaf, can you recommend me your best depressing/moving/impacting films that you'd deem imperative viewing? I'm in a mood where I want movies to make me feel vulnerable/alive.

Much thanks.

4 months 3 weeks 2 days.

 

[Stoffinator]

Contagion Which was pretty good I thought. Great cast in it.

 

[Ridley327]

I watched a few classic horror movies this week. Mostly those starring the one and only Vincent Price!

the pit and the pendulum (1961) - A warm and spooky film, Price is awesome (as always) in this one. From a tortured mind to a vile and evil torturer in one movie!

the abominable dr phibes & dr phibes rises again - two really strange, funny and stylish movies that act as a vehicle for some of Vincent Price's best moments! Not very scary by today's standards but really creative and unique!

I'll watch The Comedy of Terrors next. : )


blood on satan's claw (1972) - a very slow moving and from time to time shocking movie about satan worship and witchcraft in an innocent village. I really enjoyed this one!

If you want more late-period Price, be sure to seek out Theater of Blood. It's more or less a third Dr. Phibes film, but it's a real treat. I'd call it his best performance, easily.

 

[DieNgamers]

If you want more late-period Price, be sure to seek out Theater of Blood. It's more or less a third Dr. Phibes film, but it's a real treat. I'd call it his best performance, easily.

Yep, I have that one. : ) It was one of the first Price movies I watched a few years ago! It's my favourite as well!

 

[Count Dookkake]

The PHIBES flicks are so effin beautiful.

I got to see a print of the first at one of the BNATs.

 

[Borgnine]

Cries & Whispers: 8/10. Crazy ass bitches I swear. This was less devastating than I was hoping it would be. More unnerving than anything, especially that breathing part, fuck that.

Another Earth: 1/10. Fails on both an artistic and astronomical level.

 

[Kraftwerk]

True Lies

Oh man, that was awesome. Why I never watched this before, is beyond me. Such a good mix of action and comedy.

Jamie Lee Curtis...goddamn

Spy Game

More on the serious side. The only thing that bothered me was the timer countdown editing.

BAM "screen goes B&W" 5:02 AM BOOM

ugh

Other than that, I really enjoyed this one. Robert Redford is one my favorites.


Now, I demand more spy movies. Kindly recommend some.

 

[Mr. B Natural]

Iron Giant - Glad I watched it. Not the super duper classic that was instilled in my head, but a very good movie. Not a fan of the toonshader 3d, but it was done well enough. It would have been really cool "back then" but things have changed. That stuff doesn't age as well and lacks the timeless touch of real hand drawn stuff, especially when imposed into the real deal.

Blade Runner - A really mediocre movie. It looked great and the future-noire world is interesting, but the story they ended up telling in this world was awful. The plot is inconsequential, the characters were meh, the movie is dragged out, the "metaphors" are heavy handed and pointless. Motivations were all over the place. It's trying to be brilliant and failed immensely. So much potential wasted. Bit off far more than it can chew. Disappointing.

To Sir with Love - did not age well at all. I loved In the Heat of the Night and Sidney Poitier, but this movie was just a meh "teacher versus rowdy kids" rendition but ridiculously 60's in every way. Imagine the Girl in Gold Boots meets Mister Holland's Opus. It wasn't so bad that it was funny, it was just so bland.

 

[Extra Sauce]

DUDE.

THE SKIN I LIVE IN.

WHAT.

I found it somewhat boring.

Spoiler

It's well shot and well acted, but there are no scares, no thrills. And there's like one twist in the movie, which you can see coming before it is actually revealed. After that you're just waiting for the ending, which is by-the-numbers: victim kills their captor, escapes and comes back home.

Don't get me wrong, it was an interesting movie and I liked how at the end it is sort of implied that perhaps Vicente will end up with Cristina after all, which is weirdly romantic in a way. But I was bored for most of the running time because like I said, few genuine surprises, no scares, and no thrill.

 

[swoon]

Now, I demand more spy movies. Kindly recommend some.

spy who came in from the cold
quiller memorandum
ipcress file

 

[Kraftwerk]

spy who came in from the cold
quiller memorandum
ipcress file

I shall watch these today. Thanks.

 

[UrbanRats]

Which is the good Cat People film? The original or the remake? (or both?)

 

[BaronLundi]

Which is the good Cat People film? The original or the remake? (or both?)

I only saw the original but I seem to remember people saying that both (Cat people and the Curse of) were worthwile.

 

[JB1981]

The only thing about Schindler's List that angers me is that the version of Gloomy Sunday that Williams and Perlman composed for the film has never ever been made available.

hysterical how such a masterful movie can make someone angry.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I mentioned it in the music movie thread, but if you have not seen it, please watch Bakshi's AMERICAN POP. It is the story of 4 generations of musicians in an American Jewish family.

I just watched the final scene and it still makes me cry. So effin good.

I'd love to hear what you guys think, particularly younger folks who may not have the same connection to some of the musical choices.

 

[swoon]

Which is the good Cat People film? The original or the remake? (or both?)

both are so goddamn awesome for different reasons.

 

[mickcenary]

I found it somewhat boring.

Spoiler

It's well shot and well acted, but there are no scares, no thrills. And there's like one twist in the movie, which you can see coming before it is actually revealed. After that you're just waiting for the ending, which is by-the-numbers: victim kills their captor, escapes and comes back home.

Don't get me wrong, it was an interesting movie and I liked how at the end it is sort of implied that perhaps Vicente will end up with Cristina after all, which is weirdly romantic in a way. But I was bored for most of the running time because like I said, few genuine surprises, no scares, and no thrill.

Fair points.

Spoiler

To be honest, I didn't really see it coming. I had it in my mind the whole time that he was simply going to strip Vicente of his skin and use it to create Vera, which was - at the time - weird enough for me. Ha. The mere fact that Robert was so content in having carnal relations with/co-existing with Vera was pretty disturbing. Also, can you imagine having to play with your new vagina? Woahbro.

It's one of those movies that has actually had more of an effect on me afterwards than during the unfolding of events.

Anyway, a messed up premise indeed. My main gripe with it would be that it often slipped a bit too far into melodrama; it felt as if you were watching a soap opera as opposed to a movie half of the time, which isn't to my liking.

EDIT: I'm thinking Magnolia next.

 

[Cosmic Bus]

My main gripe with it would be that it often slipped a bit too far into melodrama; it felt as if you were watching a soap opera as opposed to a movie half of the time, which isn't to my liking.

Hey now, that's half the reason to watch Almodovar's films!

spy who came in from the cold
quiller memorandum
ipcress file

both [versions of Cat People] are so goddamn awesome for different reasons.

So much quality truthiness dwells within these posts.

 

[Satyamdas]

I found it somewhat boring.

Spoiler

It's well shot and well acted, but there are no scares, no thrills. And there's like one twist in the movie, which you can see coming before it is actually revealed. After that you're just waiting for the ending, which is by-the-numbers: victim kills their captor, escapes and comes back home.

Don't get me wrong, it was an interesting movie and I liked how at the end it is sort of implied that perhaps Vicente will end up with Cristina after all, which is weirdly romantic in a way. But I was bored for most of the running time because like I said, few genuine surprises, no scares, and no thrill.

I'll never understand people who dock points from a movie because it didn't do what they wanted it to do.

Spoiler

Why would you expect this movie to have scares and thrills? And having "only" one twist is a negative? What about movies with no twist at all? Are they all lesser and "boring" because of it? I dunno, just seems so foreign to me to judge movies based on what they aren't rather than what they are.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

hysterical how such a masterful movie can make someone angry.

I think its more sad than hysterical.

 

[mickcenary]

Hey now, that's half the reason to watch Almodovar's films!

Ha. Probably. I've no idea who he is, really. Am shame .

Also, motherFUNK at 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days' metascore of 97 from 37 reviews. I usually wouldn't gravitate to the premise of this movie, but I have to watch it now.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Blade Runner----One of the top 10 greatest films ever made. The final cut is simply amazing on blu ray. It was like watching it for the first time.

The best ambiance in a movie ever created. One of the best scores ever to grace film. One of the best directed, shot, and edited films in cinematic history.

Guys if we were all going to die tomorrow, and we could only choose 10 films to bury in our capsule to pass on to future visitors, this has to be one of them.

 

[BobsRevenge]

I don't understand why people studying film would take offense to his methods because they are no longer stylish. What classic film methods are you even talking about? Making medicore films that somehow gain acclaim but in 10 years time they are bargain bin titles along with films starring Pauly Shore? Then yeah, I am tired of that.

I meant stuff like how in A Single Man, the saturation of an image changed with the emotion of the character. That's something I feel like film students would balk at for being obvious. A Single Man has more stylistic things like that, though I haven't seen the movie in a while so I can't think of what they are anymore.

In Hunger, it might seem pretentious (which is almost a subset of the word unstylish) with that 20-minute long scene. Or that sort of split-shot of the prisoner abuse with the young police dude, like, crying. Hunger's flow was very unconventional in a self-conscious kind of way. These things seem like they would be divisive for someone studying the form.

I feel like if you're learning about film you develop a sense of style that is honed in a certain way, and when someone goes against that you are susceptible to this impulse to look down on it. You feel like you're better than it.

Naturally not every film student does this, maybe not even most, I don't know, but things like that happen often enough in people studying any medium that you can recognize the tendency.

 

[Enco]

Eastern Promises

Really great film. Some tense moments and an interesting story. The acting was brilliant.

 

[bud]

50/50

Absolutely incredible.

i enjoyed this a great deal, but i feel like it could've been fleshed out a bit more; it felt a tad short.

 

[Gregorn]

Blade Runner----One of the top 10 greatest films ever made. The final cut is simply amazing on blu ray. It was like watching it for the first time.

The best ambiance in a movie ever created. One of the best scores ever to grace film. One of the best directed, shot, and edited films in cinematic history.

Guys if we were all going to die tomorrow, and we could only choose 10 films to bury in our capsule to pass on to future visitors, this has to be one of them.

I just watched Blade Runner (final cut) for the first time. Although I saw the ending 10 minutes ago I still don't feel like I've even seen the film. The music was awesome but everything else I just can't put together to form a proper opinion on.

I got some of the 'points' behind it I think, the replicants just wanted to be human but they needed to be killed. That doesn't make much sense because it's clearly not a bad thing, or is that what I'm meant to be thinking while watching it? Unicorns. Because having to disagree with what the story is telling you whilst you think "hang on, these motivations don't make sense, it must be because there's a point behind it so I'll ignore it" doesn't really make a good film. I'm not quite sure what I'm talking about because the plot hasn't even reached my stomach to begin digesting yet, and my Descartes is a bit rusty so I might have missed loads more 'points'.

 

[John Dunbar]

Watched When Harry Met Sally. For a few days at least, I believe in love again. ;_;

Also, Meg Ryan looked so good in this. Fuck time.

 

[Liquidsnake]

I just watched Blade Runner (final cut) for the first time. Although I saw the ending 10 minutes ago I still don't feel like I've even seen the film. The music was awesome but everything else I just can't put together to form a proper opinion on.

I got some of the 'points' behind it I think, the replicants just wanted to be human but they needed to be killed. That doesn't make much sense because it's clearly not a bad thing, or is that what I'm meant to be thinking while watching it? Unicorns. Because having to disagree with what the story is telling you whilst you think "hang on, these motivations don't make sense, it must be because there's a point behind it so I'll ignore it" doesn't really make a good film. I'm not quite sure what I'm talking about because the plot hasn't even reached my stomach to begin digesting yet, and my Descartes is a bit rusty so I might have missed loads more 'points'.

It took me 3 attempts to watch this film. When I was in my teens I was expecting a Star Wars type of film. I hated the movie. I tried again in my mid 20's and again I thought is was boring and trash.

A couple years ago when it was released on HD DVD and blu ray I gave it a final shot. I now realize what a masterpiece it really is. I mean shot for shot its stupid good. I finally got it, and understood it.

I know I didn't answer your question, but you may need a few watches and years to appreciate it, and digest it.

 

[bud]

sean young was so beautiful in blade runner.

 

[Max Armstrong]

Quick! Zodiac, director's cut or theatrical?

 

[Cosmic Bus]

There's barely any difference, but director's cut since there's nothing offensively unnecessary added back in.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Oh boy someone on icm made a list with 962 noir(ish) films:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/962+noir+films+from+they+shoot+pictures+dont+theyquestion+including+tspdts+250+quintessential+noir+films/burneyfan/

I've only seen like 150 of them. More stuff to watch for the years to come.

 

[bud]

i've seen both cuts and i didn't notice any noteworthy differences.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

AU: In what world is Hunger's second act bad? The conversation between Bobby and the priest is mastefully-written and filmed.

 

[Max Armstrong]

Alright, thanks guys!

 

[HiResDes]

I've seen Blade Runner three or four times, and I must say it didn't really improve much at all with additional viewing for me. It drags often, wows too inconsistently, and simply depends far too much on its audience to fill in the gaps and form a fluid story.