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I'm as much of Tebow fearing man as yourself but don't let the pressure get to you!
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The new rules gives possession to the other team only if a field goal is made right?
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I wish they would just make it first to 6 points wins. Keep it simple.
The new rules gives possession to the other team only if a field goal is made right?
Right. So I have no idea why anyone would bother attempting a FG on the first drive. Either you're close enough to try for the TD or punt it, make a stop, then kick a fg.
The new rules gives possession to the other team only if a field goal is made right?
I think the best way to put it is, the only way that overtime is NOT still sudden-death is if the team that receives the ball on kickoff kicks a field goal at the end of the first possession. In that case, the other team gets a possession to tie or win. Any score outside of a first-possession field goal ends the game immediately.
Right. So I have no idea why anyone would bother attempting a FG on the first drive. Either you're close enough to try for the TD or punt it, make a stop, then kick a fg.
what? Why not take three and get a stop, game is over that way too. If you punt and the other team kicks a FG you lose.
what? Why not take three and get a stop, game is over that way too.
...
Damn, that's right. Overthought it.
Wellington
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I think the best way to put it is, the only way that overtime is NOT still sudden-death is if the team that receives the ball on kickoff kicks a field goal at the end of the first possession. In that case, the other team gets a possession to tie or win. Any score outside of a first-possession field goal ends the game immediately.
Ok, I thought a second possession FG didn't end the game either?
Man it's a good thing I am asking before I go play.
Ok, I thought a second possession FG didn't end the game either?
Man it's a good thing I am asking before I go play.
Second possession FG to tie reverts it back to sudden death.
Ok, I thought a second possession FG didn't end the game either?
Man it's a good thing I am asking before I go play.
On the first possession, a TD or giving up a safety ends it.
if both teams have possessed the ball, a FG can win it.
If someone fumbles the opening kickoff, the other team can kick a FG to end it.
Ok, I thought a second possession FG didn't end the game either?
Man it's a good thing I am asking before I go play.
Only if it's tying a FG that the opening possession scored.
IF the team that received the kickoff makes a FG on that first possession:
- Opposing team gets one possession. If they turn the ball over, game over. If they score a TD, game over. If they kick a tying FG, then the first team gets the ball back and it's sudden-death from there.
Any other outcome than a first-possession field goal
- First to score wins.
Spectral Glider
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That's OK, I'm sure there were other players, coaches and refs that didn't exactly know the rules either. And do you know why? BECAUSE THEY DON'T USE THEM IN THE REGULAR SEASON!
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Do what my friend bob said, 10 minute quarter. If you play all of it amd it's still a tie you go again or if it's regular season it's a tie.
Wellington
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Wow @ Bama and the gutsy call. First down by a cunt hair.
yankeehater
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Wow @ Bama and the gutsy call. First down by a cunt hair.
This is the first live sports event I have watched in 3D. I hope the NFL starts broadcasting games in 3D.
Part of my enjoyment stemmed from the knowledge of just how much was on the line. In the aftermath of his dreadful, 6-for-22, 60-yard outing against the Chiefs, Tebows bosses Elway, Fox and other powerbrokers in the organization were in full-fledged panic mode. A couple of weeks earlier, theyd considered him their unquestioned starter heading into the 2012 season. Now, even that was open for reassessment.
Last Monday, as preparations began for the Steelers game, some radical short-term alternatives were considered. One, according to two organizational sources, involved playing Tebow only on first downs and inserting his backup, Brady Quinn, for second- and third-down plays. Another plan called for Tebow to be benched in favor of Quinn if he were to struggle early.
Ultimately, Fox decided against such maneuvers. Quinn, in fact, was not informed of either possibility, and he received only eight practice repetitions the entire week.
It wasnt anything different for me in terms of preparation, Quinn said afterward. No extra reps. If there was ever [consideration of] a plan, I was never told.
Wow. I can't believe they were absolutely certain he was their guy, then after two bad games, they thought about subbing in Quinn? But now he's their guy? Are they sure? What if he has another bad game? Loved Elway as a QB but I think he's a shit leader. Make a plan and then stick to it. Seat of your pants isn't really good leadership
Nothing wrong with going on the ice. Tons wrong with going on the ice in this "winter." I heard it on my way home this afternoon. Fucking awful.
Every source except for a known pathological liar has said that story is complete bullshit. Why trot it out?they thought about subbing in Quinn?
This is the first live sports event I have watched in 3D. I hope the NFL starts broadcasting games in 3D.
How is it? I know it's hard to explain but is it distracting?
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yankeehater
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How is it? I know it's hard to explain but is it distracting?
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No I am really liking it. It is weird because the effect is different for different cameras. The sideline cameras are just depth 3D, while the endzone cameras really pop out of the screen. The resolution is noticeably worse, but the pic quality on my TV is crazy good normally, so it still looks good even in 3D.
See You Next Wednesday
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So Teabow had
316 total yards
31.6 years per pass
31.6 in ratings during the 4th quarter.
No way for it to be a coincidence.
316 total yards
31.6 years per pass
31.6 in ratings during the 4th quarter.
No way for it to be a coincidence.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Jesus these guy just destroy each other. Nice defenseless receiver hit!!!!!!!
where's the FLAGS!!!!!
So Teabow had
316 total yards
31.6 years per pass
31.6 in ratings during the 4th quarter.
No way for it to be a coincidence.
And this has now been posted 316 times in this thread!!!!
OMG THE FUCKING NUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBERS
mastershake
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So Teabow had
316 total yards
31.6 years per pass
31.6 in ratings during the 4th quarter.
No way for it to be a coincidence.
You forgot 31:06 time of possession for the steelers!
Every source except for a known pathological liar has said that story is complete bullshit. Why trot it out?
Please read the article, as I was the one slamming Florio earlier as well. Florio's report was that Quinn and Tebow were splitting reps, which was absolutely false. Quinn confirms that he had all of 8 reps. Florio subsequently tried to spin his error by saying that they were contemplating bringing in Quinn, but never acknowledging his initial error
The article I quoted is by Mike Silver, who is close with Elway. What I quoted is what happened. I don't know what else to say. I see I didn't link to the article in question. My bad
http://t.co/b2H8WcF0
And this has now been posted 316 times in this thread!!!!
OMG THE FUCKING NUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBERS
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3:16 omgz
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Geez, 6-0? LSU should just concede, there's no way they're scoring that many points.
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So Teabow had
316 total yards
31.6 years per pass
31.6 in ratings during the 4th quarter.
No way for it to be a coincidence.
I think its Hezekiah 31:6 And to those who laud their belief over others I say, 'you shall know the same penalty and the same punishment as those who decry the name of the one true and might LORD.'
I think its Hezekiah 31:6 And to those who laud their belief over others I say, 'you shall know the same penalty and the same punishment as those who decry the name of the one true and might LORD.'
So players calling out Tebow can be hit with a loss of yards and a fine?!
Please read the article, as I was the one slamming Florio earlier as well. Florio's report was that Quinn and Tebow were splitting reps, which was absolutely false. Quinn confirms that he had all of 8 reps. Florio subsequently tried to spin his error by saying that they were contemplating bringing in Quinn, but never acknowledging his initial error
The article I quoted is by Mike Silver, who is close with Elway. What I quoted is what happened. I don't know what else to say. I see I didn't link to the article in question. My bad
http://t.co/b2H8WcF0
I read it. It still seems far fetched for quite a few reasons. First of all it would suck any confidence away from Tebow that he had left at the time. We seem to forget that he is still a developing sophmore QB. To a certain degree you have support him as much as possible. When you pull him, it is saying it's not good enough and you have to rebuild the confidence all over again.
Quinn hasn't seen significant first team snaps since preseason. It would be a rough go for him to have to come in and adjust to the game again, with the added playoff intensity. Quinn seems like a good guy, but I don't think he offers much more than Tebow besides some added accuracy at expense of subtracting a viable run threat.
Even if you win with Quinn, the next week would be a difficult adjustment. The offense would have to be retooled to a certain degree. Any chemistry would be lost, and I feel that the run game would lose some effectiveness. The Oline would also have to play a bit different.
The amount of reps was a tell tale sign, because it's tough to just throw a guy in there with minimal preparation. Even with Silver's article I don't think that it was seriously considered, don't forget that according to an organizational source Tebow was the 4th string QB, and Orton, Quinn, and Weber were light years beyond Tebow in the preseason.
Bill Squabber
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So players calling out Tebow can be hit with a loss of yards and a fine?!
:jnc
TheDarkKnight774
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ah NFLN showing the 2007 Packers/Giants NFC Championship game
The end of the Favre era
The end of the Favre era
Another FG!
What are the chances ESPN interviews the kicker at the end of the game should Alabama not score a TD?
Interview both quarterbacks anyway.
"So how does it feel to completely fail against a team twice in the same season?"
I'm okay with defensive struggles and all, but for the love of Tebow, between the "Game of the Century" and the Rematch of the Century could someone please score a touchdown? Just one?
Interview both quarterbacks anyway.
"So how does it feel to completely fail against a team twice in the same season?"
I'm okay with defensive struggles and all, but for the love of Tebow, between the "Game of the Century" and the Rematch of the Century could someone please score a touchdown? Just one?
Oh they will.
Not on offense though!
Tony Corrente's story about how his cancer was discovered. He was the ref for the lions sainsts wild card game. Kind of crazy. Same way the discovery of brain tumor in the trade with washington.
Today's a big day for Corrente. Less than two days after serving as ref and crew chief at the game in New Orleans, Corrente is beginning his second course of debilitating chemotherapy at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.
To this day, Corrente is still blown away by what might have saved his life: a mini-brawl in the season-opening Baltimore-Pittsburgh game.
Corrente, a trim, veteran referee, felt fine and was in excellent physical condition entering the season. In the second half of the game at Baltimore, he stepped in the middle of some pushing and shoving between two Steelers and two Ravens, and he found himself shoved hard out of the scrum. He landed on his back and hit his head, and he felt it the rest of the game.
Afterward, with pain in his head, back and buttocks, Corrente had a choice in the referee's room -- Tylenol or Motrin. And he remembered a former member of his crew saying Motrin was better for pain, so he took 800 milligrams of Motrin and flew home to California.
At home, he noticed he was coughing up blood, and still was the next day. More Motrin. The next week, after doing the Kansas City-Detroit game, Corrente was still taking Motrin, and noticed when he woke up Monday after the game there was blood on his pillow where his mouth had been. His doctor in California, Susan Sleep, set him up with an ear, nose and throat specialist, who snaked a camera through his nose to look at everything.
The camera spied a mass at the base of his tongue, where the tongue led into the throat, extending down the throat slightly. The mass was about the size of a full male thumb.
"What is that?'' Corrente asked the doctor.
"Sir, that is cancer,'' said the doctor, whose specialty was apparently not bedside manner.
"Excuse me,'' Corrente said. "I've got WHAT?''
After more tests and seeing a second expert at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Corrente would have a choice: get the tumor removed surgically, which carried some significant risks about future speaking ability and throat damage; or shrink it and eliminate it through chemotherapy and radiation. "The doctors believed the survival chance was about equal,'' Corrente told me Sunday afternoon. "So that made it a fairly easy choice.'' In late October, after returning from reffing the Tampa Bay-Chicago game, he began a seven-week course of chemotherapy.
"Every doctor I saw would look at me and tell me how lucky I was,'' Corrente said.
Huh?
"Getting knocked down and hurt in that Baltimore game might have saved my life,'' he said. "Then I started taking Motrin, which I found out causes your blood to thin. It broke through blood vessels and would come out when I coughed. Obviously, you've got to find out why that's happening. Had I not done anything, or had I taken Tylenol, which doesn't cause your blood to thin, I probably wouldn't have discovered this for a while -- and by then, I'd have needed massive surgery, and who knows what chances I would have had.''
At first, the chemo did little to him physically. But he began to lose his hair and look pale; at one point he had a bad skin rash. The Colts found out what ailed Corrente, and Peyton Manning, before the Nov. 27 Colts game against Carolina, gave Corrente a hug. "We heard,'' Manning said. During a TV timeout, Corrente was told Colts coach Jim Caldwell wanted to see him.
"He took both my hands, right there on the field,'' Corrente said. "And he said, 'I just wish you all the best. Our whole organization is praying for you.' ''
After that game, the treatments weakened Corrente to the point where he had to miss three weeks of work. Five days after he finished his last chemo treatment, he said he felt good. "A hundred percent,'' he said. "So I called [NFL officiating czar] Carl Johnson and told him I felt fine and I was ready to work. I said, 'I wouldn't come back unless I felt 100 percent.' ''
So he worked the last two weekends of the season, Minnesota at Washington on Dec. 24 and Baltimore at Cincinnati eight days ago.
"Before that game, I went to coach [John] Harbaugh of the Ravens, and told him I'd like to talk to a couple of his players if it wouldn't be too much of a bother before the game. I told him the story, and he was in disbelief. So they brought the two players who were in the scuffle with the Steelers that first week, Michael Oher and Matt Birk, out to talk to me. I told them, 'I just wanted to tell you that you actually may have saved my life.'
"I could see they were shocked as I explained it. This crazy ref was thanking them because they knocked him on his butt.''
Postseason assignments are made based on performance during the season. Corrente was told his crew would be working one of the wild-card games, and he was thrilled -- as much for his crew as for himself. He thought of his umpire, Fred Bryan, who collapsed late in the season with a blood clot in his lung and wouldn't be able to work the playoff game. "It would have been his first playoff game,'' said Corrente. "That really bothered me, that he'd miss it.''
It bothered Corrente that he wouldn't get to work another playoff game, even if his crew's performance warranted it according to the grading scale the NFL uses. He told them he wouldn't be available. Several weeks of arduous treatment lay ahead.
"There's going to be some dark days ahead,'' Corrente said.
Corrente found it interesting that he made it through the Saints-Lions game with no pain, no sore throat, no lack of energy. He had the presence of mind to -- correctly -- rule the Brees fumble/no-fumble a fumble when Brees was hit before he tried to throw the ball, though the play was incorrectly ruled because another crew member ruled an incomplete pass. But Sunday, he had a sore throat. His body felt sore. It's like he'd conditioned himself to make it through the game, knowing a tough regimen was ahead, and when the game was over, his body stopped protecting him.
As well as the chemo, Corrente will begin a new round of radiation treatments. He described it as being bolted down on a table and shot with radiation from 10 different angles for between 15 and 35 seconds. His throat will blister. He won't be able to talk. He'll have a very hard time swallowing. He'll lose all sensation of taste, which won't be much of a change. "Food, to me, is repulsive right now,'' he said.
Ask him about the future, and he can't tell you. His doctors say he came through the first two-plus months of treatment well, but they don't know what the future holds. As a former high school baseball coach, Corrente's been given some baseball allegories by one of his chemotherapy docs. "He told me, 'We just scored a couple of runs, but we're only in the sixth inning -- and the other guys have some good hitters coming up,' '' said Corrente.
He's heard from coaches, players, league officials, fellow officials, all wishing him well. "You hear it's the No Fun League, or it's Not For Long,'' said Corrente. "I'll tell you what the league is -- it's the National Family League. I've learned my glass isn't half-full. It's been full my whole life, and it's full now.''
And he's looking forward to next season, if for no other reason than to look up Ryan Mundy and LaMarr Woodley of the Steelers. They're the two players who jousted with Birk and Oher. Corrente can't wait to tell them how they might have helped save his life.
Today's a big day for Corrente. Less than two days after serving as ref and crew chief at the game in New Orleans, Corrente is beginning his second course of debilitating chemotherapy at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.
To this day, Corrente is still blown away by what might have saved his life: a mini-brawl in the season-opening Baltimore-Pittsburgh game.
Corrente, a trim, veteran referee, felt fine and was in excellent physical condition entering the season. In the second half of the game at Baltimore, he stepped in the middle of some pushing and shoving between two Steelers and two Ravens, and he found himself shoved hard out of the scrum. He landed on his back and hit his head, and he felt it the rest of the game.
Afterward, with pain in his head, back and buttocks, Corrente had a choice in the referee's room -- Tylenol or Motrin. And he remembered a former member of his crew saying Motrin was better for pain, so he took 800 milligrams of Motrin and flew home to California.
At home, he noticed he was coughing up blood, and still was the next day. More Motrin. The next week, after doing the Kansas City-Detroit game, Corrente was still taking Motrin, and noticed when he woke up Monday after the game there was blood on his pillow where his mouth had been. His doctor in California, Susan Sleep, set him up with an ear, nose and throat specialist, who snaked a camera through his nose to look at everything.
The camera spied a mass at the base of his tongue, where the tongue led into the throat, extending down the throat slightly. The mass was about the size of a full male thumb.
"What is that?'' Corrente asked the doctor.
"Sir, that is cancer,'' said the doctor, whose specialty was apparently not bedside manner.
"Excuse me,'' Corrente said. "I've got WHAT?''
After more tests and seeing a second expert at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Corrente would have a choice: get the tumor removed surgically, which carried some significant risks about future speaking ability and throat damage; or shrink it and eliminate it through chemotherapy and radiation. "The doctors believed the survival chance was about equal,'' Corrente told me Sunday afternoon. "So that made it a fairly easy choice.'' In late October, after returning from reffing the Tampa Bay-Chicago game, he began a seven-week course of chemotherapy.
"Every doctor I saw would look at me and tell me how lucky I was,'' Corrente said.
Huh?
"Getting knocked down and hurt in that Baltimore game might have saved my life,'' he said. "Then I started taking Motrin, which I found out causes your blood to thin. It broke through blood vessels and would come out when I coughed. Obviously, you've got to find out why that's happening. Had I not done anything, or had I taken Tylenol, which doesn't cause your blood to thin, I probably wouldn't have discovered this for a while -- and by then, I'd have needed massive surgery, and who knows what chances I would have had.''
At first, the chemo did little to him physically. But he began to lose his hair and look pale; at one point he had a bad skin rash. The Colts found out what ailed Corrente, and Peyton Manning, before the Nov. 27 Colts game against Carolina, gave Corrente a hug. "We heard,'' Manning said. During a TV timeout, Corrente was told Colts coach Jim Caldwell wanted to see him.
"He took both my hands, right there on the field,'' Corrente said. "And he said, 'I just wish you all the best. Our whole organization is praying for you.' ''
After that game, the treatments weakened Corrente to the point where he had to miss three weeks of work. Five days after he finished his last chemo treatment, he said he felt good. "A hundred percent,'' he said. "So I called [NFL officiating czar] Carl Johnson and told him I felt fine and I was ready to work. I said, 'I wouldn't come back unless I felt 100 percent.' ''
So he worked the last two weekends of the season, Minnesota at Washington on Dec. 24 and Baltimore at Cincinnati eight days ago.
"Before that game, I went to coach [John] Harbaugh of the Ravens, and told him I'd like to talk to a couple of his players if it wouldn't be too much of a bother before the game. I told him the story, and he was in disbelief. So they brought the two players who were in the scuffle with the Steelers that first week, Michael Oher and Matt Birk, out to talk to me. I told them, 'I just wanted to tell you that you actually may have saved my life.'
"I could see they were shocked as I explained it. This crazy ref was thanking them because they knocked him on his butt.''
Postseason assignments are made based on performance during the season. Corrente was told his crew would be working one of the wild-card games, and he was thrilled -- as much for his crew as for himself. He thought of his umpire, Fred Bryan, who collapsed late in the season with a blood clot in his lung and wouldn't be able to work the playoff game. "It would have been his first playoff game,'' said Corrente. "That really bothered me, that he'd miss it.''
It bothered Corrente that he wouldn't get to work another playoff game, even if his crew's performance warranted it according to the grading scale the NFL uses. He told them he wouldn't be available. Several weeks of arduous treatment lay ahead.
"There's going to be some dark days ahead,'' Corrente said.
Corrente found it interesting that he made it through the Saints-Lions game with no pain, no sore throat, no lack of energy. He had the presence of mind to -- correctly -- rule the Brees fumble/no-fumble a fumble when Brees was hit before he tried to throw the ball, though the play was incorrectly ruled because another crew member ruled an incomplete pass. But Sunday, he had a sore throat. His body felt sore. It's like he'd conditioned himself to make it through the game, knowing a tough regimen was ahead, and when the game was over, his body stopped protecting him.
As well as the chemo, Corrente will begin a new round of radiation treatments. He described it as being bolted down on a table and shot with radiation from 10 different angles for between 15 and 35 seconds. His throat will blister. He won't be able to talk. He'll have a very hard time swallowing. He'll lose all sensation of taste, which won't be much of a change. "Food, to me, is repulsive right now,'' he said.
Ask him about the future, and he can't tell you. His doctors say he came through the first two-plus months of treatment well, but they don't know what the future holds. As a former high school baseball coach, Corrente's been given some baseball allegories by one of his chemotherapy docs. "He told me, 'We just scored a couple of runs, but we're only in the sixth inning -- and the other guys have some good hitters coming up,' '' said Corrente.
He's heard from coaches, players, league officials, fellow officials, all wishing him well. "You hear it's the No Fun League, or it's Not For Long,'' said Corrente. "I'll tell you what the league is -- it's the National Family League. I've learned my glass isn't half-full. It's been full my whole life, and it's full now.''
And he's looking forward to next season, if for no other reason than to look up Ryan Mundy and LaMarr Woodley of the Steelers. They're the two players who jousted with Birk and Oher. Corrente can't wait to tell them how they might have helped save his life.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
^ That's from Peter King's MMQB Column for those wondering.
I read it. It still seems far fetched for quite a few reasons. First of all it would suck any confidence away from Tebow that he had left at the time. We seem to forget that he is still a developing sophmore QB. To a certain degree you have support him as much as possible. When you pull him, it is saying it's not good enough and you have to rebuild the confidence all over again.
Quinn hasn't seen significant first team snaps since preseason. It would be a rough go for him to have to come in and adjust to the game again, with the added playoff intensity. Quinn seems like a good guy, but I don't think he offers much more than Tebow besides some added accuracy at expense of subtracting a viable run threat.
Even if you win with Quinn, the next week would be a difficult adjustment. The offense would have to be retooled to a certain degree. Any chemistry would be lost, and I feel that the run game would lose some effectiveness. The Oline would also have to play a bit different.
The amount of reps was a tell tale sign, because it's tough to just throw a guy in there with minimal preparation. Even with Silver's article I don't think that it was seriously considered, don't forget that according to an organizational source Tebow was the 4th string QB, and Orton, Quinn, and Weber were light years beyond Tebow in the preseason.
Well I agree with you that it would have been an awful decision, but I don't give the brass there the benefit of the doubt. It looks like Fox decided to stick with Tebow before practices started, but earlier in the week it was considered.
I trust Silver on this. As I said, he is plugged in there. Certain media guys are reliable when they cover certain teams/players. Silver is also buddy buddy with Jeff Fisher, and is the only one who has called it as that has gone down correctly
Futurevoid
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Was it posted that Atlanta's DC is going to Auburn?
Was it posted that Atlanta's DC is going to Auburn?
Where will Atlanta get their playoff points from now??
Futurevoid
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Dallas dumped secondaries coach Dave Campo as well.
Derrick Mason is also retiring.
Derrick Mason is also retiring.
He's heard from coaches, players, league officials, fellow officials, all wishing him well. "You hear it's the No Fun League, or it's Not For Long,'' said Corrente. "I'll tell you what the league is -- it's the National Family League. I've learned my glass isn't half-full. It's been full my whole life, and it's full now.''
Corny as FUCK, but I'll allow it in this instance. Crazy story and I hope that everything works out for him in the offseason.
That said...I don't think it's terribly wrong of me to question the NFL for knowingly sending out a referee that's been undergoing radiation therapy during the season. There was already talk on the radio today about how many older officials are being used and some questions as to their ability to keep up with the quickening game-speed. I don't know how much of an impact this sort of stuff has, if at all, but for as many people are complaining about the state of NFL officiating, it's worth thinking about a bit.
Edit: On a completely unrelated note, JAKNFUCKINGCOKE at that LSU interception.
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