Wii U Spotted At CES
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soxinthebox
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Using my DS (and later 3DS which admittedly was much better than the DS) since launch and using various smart phones (and more recently the iPad) over the years. Prefer the capacitive responsiveness by far.
Now it's obvious Nintendo isn't going to change, I just find it strange people defend them for sticking to single touch + styli when the tech world as a whole has moved on.
IrishNinja
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AceBandage
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AceBandage
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I really should have a demeaning tag.
Cosmo Clock 21
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RoadHazard
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Hmm, I haven't heard of that being a problem. I guess if your skin is very dry, which would logically make it less conductive, there could be some issues.
Huh?
3DS does not have an IPS panel. The viewing angle is mediocre at best.
Seriously. If they want to know what to do, they'll just hire fortune tellers, not visit NeoGAF.
StreetsAhead
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While I concede that capacitive screens (at least the ones I've tried on the Iphone, Ipad, Ipod Touch and Samsung Galaxy) are quite responsive, I find their accuracy to be lacking enough that I prefer resistive that I prefer the DS/3DS screens for gaming.
So the tech world as a whole has moved on to the latest trend? It doesn't negate the benefits of a resitive screen for gaming. It's not as if multi-touch is inherently required, or even necessarily 'better' than single touch or anything.
Yeah, I think dry skin was the issue. Will see if I can dig something up.
mysticwhip
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What's up with the analog stick placement?
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Looks like the game is Dead or Alive 5.
The analog stick is a great invention, what you see before your eyes are 'nubs', just like the people who made them.
The analog stick is a great invention, what you see before your eyes are 'nubs', just like the people who made them.
sakipon
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You could say similarly about traditional controls and move based controls. Why would you want buttons when there's newer tech available? The fact is there are upsides to using 'old tech', like StreetsAhead said beating me.
(And frankly I've never had problems using the occasional finger touch on DS or 3DS so I don't see the big deal).
First of all, they don't even have a booth at CES. Expecting something new now is just dumb.
Second, your definition of serious likely involves a standard controller, so you've already written it off and really don't have anything to contribute in the first place.
Advance Wars and Kirby Canvas make me infinitely prefer the concept of touch-screen/stylus gameplay. I can't help but imagine that the stylus allows for greater precision and in gaming such is very important. Sometimes threads like these make me question who even actually plays games at all.
Incoming 300 pages of nonsense.
I was hoping for a redesign of the hardware and perhaps a new name for the product and a showcase of a non-white system, mostly because it would look great in black. I wouldn't be surprised if that still happened. Oh well.
And isn't that city skyline new stuff?
Incoming 300 pages of nonsense.
I was hoping for a redesign of the hardware and perhaps a new name for the product and a showcase of a non-white system, mostly because it would look great in black. I wouldn't be surprised if that still happened. Oh well.
And isn't that city skyline new stuff?
Uno Venova
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Accuracy for what.
RoadHazard
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It's true that resistive screens are generally more accurate, but that's really only relevant if you're going to be using a stylus. If you're going to be switching between using the buttons and interacting with the screen, you're probably going to do the latter using your fingers directly on the screen - getting the stylus out quickly, or trying to hold it while using the buttons, is pretty annoying on a DS/3DS - and then the accuracy a capacitive screen provides would be more than enough.
I guess it depends on how games are going to utilize the controller. For those using the buttons OR the screen (with the stylus), not forcing you to quickly switch between them - and also where precise input is required, such as drawing or pinpointing tiny objects - a resistive screen has some advantages, for sure. But in cases where such fast switching is required, I'm absolutely convinced a capacitive screen would be superior.
IrishNinja
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it's been said for a while now that the re unveiling is E3...it's even a thread title on page 1 i think.
also, make sure your adopted kid is < 3, because this system is 4 BABIEZ
everytime this point is made, it's followed by someone talking about ipads, OLEDs and blast processing.
Everything? Every time you touch the screen?
It's true that you can't just touch it with the finger flatly like on a capacitive touchscreen, but using the fingertip, it doesn't need a lot of pressure at all. Just try to apply pressure on a blank app on the DSi or 3DS until it registers. I can guarantee you it will respond at a much weaker force than you are thinking right now.
Uno Venova
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But both options are very accurate, even if a resistive pad is slightly more accurate I just don't see any situations where it would be relevant for what the Wii U pad is doing.
AceBandage
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This is the most info we got about next gen consoles at CES.
And one of them is old.
That's even better!
Iwata Keynote at GDC, c'mon...
Is anyone from Nintendo gonna be at GDC?
All we know right now is that Nintendo will be there. Keynotes are announced later.
Ok. For some reason I thought I read somewhere that they werent gonna be there at all this year.
Hmm, testing the screen out in front of me, seems to have about 120 degrees of full quality, then a minor drop in saturation outside that. Hmm, not at all terrible but maybe you're right.
I remember reading on these boards that the 3DS screen was an IPS, mentioned by someone who's opinion I trusted. Guess they might of been wrong.
IrishNinja
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what's an IPS panel?
I don't want to use a fucking stylus for this thing. If you have to use the stylus, it means either using the screens or the buttons, with awkward transitions from one to another. I want to use the buttons with quick swipes of my fingers when I need to do something on the touch screen. I don't wanna be picking up/putting down the stylus all the time.
Take a look at some videos, dude.....
Resistive touch screens work fine with fingers too, you know. Resistive panels react to pressure, not electrical conductance like a capacitive panel. They're material agnostic.
ThatObviousUser
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Nintendo's done like half the keynotes in recent years. No way they'd just skip the whole thing altogether.
Agreed. For whatever reason (too many colors in their games, console is white, they saw some kids playing a Nintendo game once, or Mario just isn't a bald space marine) the haters in this thread have already made up their minds.
That's how it is in every Nintendo thread.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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But wait, there's no swearing or blood in Nintendo games! And Zelda doesn't have an online mode! You expect me to like a company with such outdated philosophies!?
Games aren't supposed to be fun, they're supposed to be mature. C'mon now.
Even by putting aside any knowledge of what Nintendo may or may not want to do with the Wii U, there are some funny things to observe about everyone comments.
Pop in, in a 3DS thread, you get all sorts of people complaining about their hands getting cramped by playing the device and looking for grips to make it bigger/more comfy.
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Pop in a WiiU thread, and OMG the controller is so damn big (and because of that) looks so uncomfortable.
Again, pop in a WiiU thread about the controller, and 'OMG I don't want to pay a fortune for a controller because it has a screen on it'
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But it should be multi touch and make waffles !
I know -> NeoGaf
but still.
About the keynote, if it's WiiU related it will certainly end being no more than design philosophy and maybe some tech hints, and behind closed doors demos and contacts making.
Pop in, in a 3DS thread, you get all sorts of people complaining about their hands getting cramped by playing the device and looking for grips to make it bigger/more comfy.
Vs
Pop in a WiiU thread, and OMG the controller is so damn big (and because of that) looks so uncomfortable.
Again, pop in a WiiU thread about the controller, and 'OMG I don't want to pay a fortune for a controller because it has a screen on it'
Vs
But it should be multi touch and make waffles !
I know -> NeoGaf
but still.About the keynote, if it's WiiU related it will certainly end being no more than design philosophy and maybe some tech hints, and behind closed doors demos and contacts making.
What if I already made up my mind to be tsundere toward the WiiU, just like I did toward the 3DS?
"S-stupid amazing Nintendo exclusives. Don't think that I like you or anything..."
walking fiend
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has Nintendo actually shown anything yet? Serious question!
rollingstart
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I can't recall all the specifics of the controller from E3, but can anyone tell if it has changed at all? down to minor cosmetic changes, like what we saw with the wii remote prerelease.
Ideally it would be the same hardware that's been trotted out for CES with the better redesigned, closer to final hardware, saved for E3. Hoping for real analog sticks and things like that.
Ideally it would be the same hardware that's been trotted out for CES with the better redesigned, closer to final hardware, saved for E3. Hoping for real analog sticks and things like that.
No, wait for E3.
yeah its running on the same exact hardware from e3