Pretty much but it's a good way to call out a phoney and see if someone else's respond to my actual concern.
Nintendo Wii U Controller Demo from CES 2012
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Pretty much but it's a good way to call out a phoney and see if someone else's respond to my actual concern.
So just because some guy says it's comfortable, it's definitely comfortable for everyone. Right.
Lots of people say the 3DS is comfortable, whereas I can't play the damn thing for more than 45 minutes without my hands cramping up. The layout of the controller is garbage, right analog (or slide pad...ugh) should be under the buttons, and I don't consider watching TV at the same time as a plus. So that leaves... the screen?
This controller looks fucking horrible. I really hope I'm wrong, and it gets an update at E3, but right now... ugh.
Don't let me down Nintendo.
Souldriver
Member
Really?
Aw shit, coming from such a respectable gaffer like JWong, I'm definitely down on the WiiU Controller.
abstract alien
Member
I would rather the gamecube button layout instead of the tired "second dpad" set up, but I know that won't have a chance in hell of happening.
Really?
Aw shit, coming from such a respectable gaffer like JWong, I'm definitely down on the WiiU Controller.
bwahahhaa
Zoramon089
Banned
Lol, so much hypothetical anger
timetokill
Banned
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I'll just chime in and say that the controller is quite comfortable. I was hesitant at E3 as well but it actually works extremely well.
It's gotten positive appraise from nearly all media outlets who have demoed it. I'm still not sure why people are questioning this. Go head and try it for yourself when it comes to several retail store later in the year but lull your concern since it looks silly in conparison to the many other people who have tried it already and said it was very comfortable.
I don't care what the controller looks like but just by looking at it you can tell at least it won't give you cramps in your fingers like PSP Nub, 3DS dpad. The length of the device will allow a nice range of hand sizes(especially big hands) to get a grip on the controller and have their fingers fully extended and relaxed.
PSP nub and 3ds dpad are awful because they are so close to the bottom of the system you are forced to keep your thumb bent just to play. This result is having to put it down every minute to flex your thumb.
Plus it is nice a big which is perfect for big hands unlike the Dualshocks.
PSP nub and 3ds dpad are awful because they are so close to the bottom of the system you are forced to keep your thumb bent just to play. This result is having to put it down every minute to flex your thumb.
Plus it is nice a big which is perfect for big hands unlike the Dualshocks.
Dreamwriter
Member
Not a single person who has held it has said the Wii-U controller is uncomfortable, but many people have said it is comfortable.
But we have thousands of people saying it's uncomfortable just watching screens, they must be right!
MisterHero
Super Member
I'm sort of happy that Nintendo went back to a scheme that at least LOOKS more accessible to certain genres (fighters, etc.).
But Capcom made TvC and caused a miracle by making a fully-functional fighter with the GC pad
So yeah an updated GC layout could've been nice too
RocketDarkness
Member
I held it at E3 last year. It was quite comfortable indeed.
Lucky you!, is it as lightweight as some site claimed today?
Is it now?
-WindYoshi-
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Jorok Goldblade
Member
After the problems with left handed players and Kid Icarus, I don't think Nintendo will make another controller that uses a stylus and doesn't have a symmetrical layout.
GodfatherX
Member
-resistive single touch screen
-circle pads instead of true analog sticks
-digital shoulder/triggers instead of analog ones
Zoramon089
Banned
That's not a negative
abstract alien
Member
I've had zero problems playing Mario Land on 3DS with the circle pad, and that game is about as intensive as you are going to find in requiring precision 3D movements and distances outside of Mario games on consoles and what not. Do you just not like the circle pad, or is it really that inferior to the analog stick and Mario Land was just designed well?
Eh, this is more of a neutral than a real negative or positive as Zoramon said in my opinion, especially for console gaming and mostly secondary functionality.
SEGAmaniaco
Member
impressive demo
RocketDarkness
Member
It is, actually. Surprisingly so. I've held a few tablets/eBook readers, and it definitely felt much more comfortable and light compared to those.
perfectchaos007
Member
So no update since E3? I thought Nintendo had been hush hush since E3 about the Wii U so they could go back to R&D for major renovations...
Is the system really going to launch in June as we saw at E3 2011 despite some of the negative impressions regarding the controller?
I guess E3 2012 will give us all the answers, but I'm a bit concerned about Nintendo's handling so far of the Wii U if it is really only 6 months away from release. I hope at the very least it comes with at least 2 AAA titles so it doesn't suffer the same slow start as 3DS. With Sony AND Microsoft breathing down Nintendo's back in home consoles, the Wii U needs a quick start out the gate with momentum going into 2013
/armchair analyst
Is the system really going to launch in June as we saw at E3 2011 despite some of the negative impressions regarding the controller?
I guess E3 2012 will give us all the answers, but I'm a bit concerned about Nintendo's handling so far of the Wii U if it is really only 6 months away from release. I hope at the very least it comes with at least 2 AAA titles so it doesn't suffer the same slow start as 3DS. With Sony AND Microsoft breathing down Nintendo's back in home consoles, the Wii U needs a quick start out the gate with momentum going into 2013
/armchair analyst
Zoramon089
Banned
It might be more of a case they don't want to show any updates UNTIL E3...but major renovations? I'm not expecting that
IsntChrisL
Member
Several people have said it was comfortable to hold. Not just "some guy."
I listed the shoulder pads as a negative.... in the post you quoted and copied the format for...
The rest I don't see as a negative, myself.
Well this post is easy to solve...it's not coming out in June. There's talk that they're going to "re-reveal" it at E3 and the actual launch will probably come some time late in the fall or during the holiday season.
StreetsAhead
Member
Can you explain why you think it's a negative on a controller with buttons?
No reaching over/knocking sticks to reach the screen or stretching of thumbs to reach them and the triggers at the same time for people with smaller hands.
If they control just as well (and reports say they feel better/have some grip compared to the 3DS ones) what's the issue?
Those negative 'impressions' were largely other internet analysts (ie forum goers). Their opinion is as irrelevant as it is baseless.
I feel like I'm harping on, but there's no 're-reveal'. It's a GAF invention. Iwata said he wants to show the final form of the console at e3 that's all.
perfectchaos007
Member
Well at the very least I thought Nintendo was going to re-evaluate the idea of only 1 tablet being compatable per console. If they determine more tablets should be compatable, then they would have to determine if a stand-alone tablet could be made affordable to customers, if any ommisions need to be made, if the size is still right etc. Also, if games were already in development for the console with the assumption of it being only 1 tablet compatable, then the games may need more time in development for adjustments.
I guess the problem is we don't know how far along Nintendo was with the Wii U at E3 2011. If the console itself was nearly completed, then going back to make changes could take a while.
I'm pretty sure they are re-evaluating it. There are rumors floating around, at the very least, but we wont have a clearer picture until E3
GodfatherX
Member
1. because multi-touch seems a lot more natural to me, maybe its personal preference but being able to simultaneously touch multiple objects as oppose to 1 seems to open more control possibilities, not to mention the advantages for viewing web and multimedia items
2. i can't stand the circle pads on the 3ds, they are a small step up from the psp slider. Nintendo, who has always led the charge when making analog sticks (GCN is one of my favorites, perfect amount of resistance) using this in a console is a head scratcher.
for 1. could you give specific examples other than pinch-zoom?
and as for as the slide pads go, they're apparently larger than the one on the 3DS so at least there's that. Also, even the 3DS slider is a world of difference from the piece of shit useless PSP nub.
Will you hold the Wii U controller for me?
Yes. At E3 2011, Nintendo showcased a Wii U Experience called "Measure Up." In that demo, you had to draw a figure based on an example given or an instruction on the screen like, "Draw a 2.5 in. line."
The stylus used in that game was white, thin, and fairly short, and much like a DSi XL stylus. Not long, fat, and pen-like, like the styli you'd find on a modern tablet with an active digitizer.
SolarPowered
Member
They're not as good as home console analog sticks. I don't care if they're better than the 3DS ones because I don't even think about them when I play on a home console.
It's worse than a home console and that is what matters. Handhelds don't apply here because I don't see sliders becoming better on pads than the traditional analog. Maybe in the future, but not right now at least.
StreetsAhead
Member
To echo, apart from pinch to zoom (which would not work for most games) what advantages does it have for gaming? I know, the OS/web applications seem nice, but I have a laptop, phone, 3DS, and (possibly, soon) an Ipad for that - is it worth the extra expense for the mutli-touch screen to gaming?
As I said, reports say they're better/larger/grippier than the 3DS one and if they do the exact same job, what's the issue?
If it's an ergonomics/comfort issue, I can understand using them.
How do you know they aren't/won't be? It really just seems your arguing from ignorance: 'I can't imagine slide-pad tech has gotten better than 3DS/as good as analogue sticks, therefore these are no good.'
abstract alien
Member
I was still under the impression that the number of tablets depended entirely on the game being played and resources available to stream. A rough example would be 4 tablets available for play with something like Zelda: 4 Swords Port Edition, but only one tablet for GTA 5 multiplayer.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
It's really important to try and not hold this controller to the same standards as tablets, because you just won't be using it in the same way. It's not something you will ever really be touching with more than one finger. You hold it like a controller, you push the buttons, you reach in with a thumb to tap something on the screen. Resistive is much more reliable for that kind of thing, and multi-touch wouldn't accomplish much of anything at all.
civilstrife
Member
It really is true. The only real applications for multitouch in touchscreen gaming are virtual buttons (the ability to press more than one at a time ie. emulating traditional button controls) and pinching to zoom in and out of something.
I challenge anyone to name one iOS game that utilizes multitouch for a purpose other than to emulate traditional buttons or sticks, or to zoom.
Edit: I suppose fruit ninja lets you slice with more than one finger if you want to? Single tablet multiplayer table hockey? Not really the kinds of experiences WiiU is going for.
...isn't cut the rope on dsiware?
