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Yes, absolutely. You can't really go wrong with that.
While more of an entry level device than the 800 with the screen or the case not being quite as nice, it does have the same stuff on the inside (same processor).
I'd have absolutely no reservations with that phone.
The Verge called it 'solidly-built' and they thought the call quality was very good. The screen is said to be not that great with 'bad viewing angles'.
Without holding a more expensive smartphone next to it, I doubt the screen is really an issue for anyone.
brotkasten
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Uhh, uhh! Could you also implement video and video playlist support? That would be awesome. <3
Cool. I checked last week and it wasn't being pushed out yet for Rogers. I'll install it tonight as the keyboard bug can be annoying.
I'm assuming that doing this upgrade won't mess up my Internet Sharing that I enabled after doing ChevronWP7. Any one else try this yet?
Not sure about that.
It will be nice to have the keyboard glitch fixed since it would disappear for me a lot.
Steelyuhas
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I hope AT&T pushes out 8107.
brotkasten
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antiquegamer
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If you don't mind DIY, (and brave enough), it really not that hard to load the cab file. I have sporting latest version for the last few weeks. I haven't have my keyboard gone missing once even with running HTC app (many claim its one of the culprits).
brotkasten
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Feb 27th.
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-running-lumia-800-battery-fix-update#comments
This guy nails it for the Lumia 800, too many software issues and they even fucked up the lighting of the soft keys with this latest update.
Despite all that, it is still a sexy phone.
glen1 said:
This guy nails it for the Lumia 800, too many software issues and they even fucked up the lighting of the soft keys with this latest update.
Despite all that, it is still a sexy phone.
Vanillalite
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Meh I'm becoming very dissolutioned with the platform as a whole, but I feel like I'm the odd man out around here.
I haven't jumped onto WP7.
I may lean towards Android if the Optimus Black will receive a ICS update.
Complex Shadow
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same. but i will soon.
brotkasten
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Yeah, we know.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Have your needs changed? Has MS decided to move in a direction other than what you were expecting?
I've switched platforms before (TWICE!!) so I can absolutely understand moving on, just know that all platforms have issues.
Updates on Android suck, Apple pulled a dick move with Siri not being on iPhone 4, plus their OS is still way too plain and boring for me. I think Nokia plus MS has the best chance of giving me the software/hardware combo I want, but if Apple can refresh their OS and offer a 4" plus device (all likely later this year), they may be worth a look as well. They have been willing to adopt great ideas from competitors (notification shade, twitter integration, and the rumored FB integration). If they can get past the stupid static icons (copy live tiles), they would be unbeatable with their app selection, the great update cycle, plus their amazing hardware designs.
I just think MS will get there first, we'll see this fall. I have an update next year, and I'm always looking.
I am starting to hope for a device that lets me ditch the "phone" completely.... give me a nokia made 4-5 inch "tablet" that runs windows phone 8 or windows 8. Let it run as a tablet on the lte networks (to get the cheaper data only packages) and hopefully skype will be integrated to run as the phone/messaging service.
Sorta like cord cutting for cell phones....
Sorta like cord cutting for cell phones....
I like the os but there are several things I want from Apollo.
- task switcher needs to go beyond five and/or allow fast resume from app list and start screen.
- a central hub for notifications. copy android/ios 5 if need be.
- apps. not really in microsoft's hands though as the tools are there.
- phone management. backups, updates, app management. things that itunes does.
- folders. please. some sort of better organization for apps.
- screenshots
- better cloud support. full size photo support in skydrive. wireless backups. ota updates.
- lock screen notification shortcuts. if i get a text i should be able to get to it directly from the lock screen. third party app support too.
- separate ring tone and media volumes.
- custom alert sounds.
- system wide search.
there are things I'd like tweaked here and there (editable schedules for email sync for instance), but on the whole I really like it. Frankly we're here magnifying a few minor tweaks into major 'problems'. They aren't really, they're just how you'd like it.
Any news on whether lastpass will be coming to windows phone? Or a good way to manage in the meantime?
Any news on whether lastpass will be coming to windows phone? Or a good way to manage in the meantime?
This ones odd, because if you get a text, you can swipe the notification blue bar away to the right, almost as though its an action that will trigger something - but then it just stays in lock mode :/
Those all sound pretty reasonable.
I'm still waiting for both the 8107 and the battery update, hoping to get them soon.
Apart from the disappearing keyboard, there's also a strange bug with German "umlauts"/secondary characters and the text prediction. If I choose a word that contains an Umlaut, it will usually put the rest of the word after the fragment I typed. For instance, the German word "unwillkürlich" will turn into "unwillküunwillkürlich". It's quite annoying. Does this happen in other languages too?
Because you already have hubs and a main screen for live tiles.
Plus it goes against Metro blahblahblah, you get the idea.
For me, I just see them as plain ugly.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
If the folders allow for live tiles for the apps underneath, or if maybe they only show up when you swipe to the right from the home screen and see the full app list (like with groups in the People Hub), I think I might like this idea. It's really not an issue until you have a few dozen apps to deal with. To be honest, I haven't needed folders until very recently, but I downloaded a lot of great apps for my daughter to play with, and they're all over the place because of their name, so I'd love for one place I can show her where to go to play with those apps.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
are there any free guides on developing for wp7 mainly games. 2D and/or 3D. also what are some developer tools are at my desposal?
Vanillalite
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WP7 is XNA so just go check out the best XNA resources both in web and/or book form.
Hey was that hating on me for complaining.
MS has just been slow moving in any direction. So I think the fact that we are all still sort of in post mango limbo with little to no info, and while we are getting phones everything is still stuck on the old baseline despite jazzing things up ala the Nokia phones. I totally understand though all platforms have their issues.
My upgrade cycle is up this Summer so basically MS has me until the fall and then I go looking around. By then Apollo should be out, and we should be getting our yearly Android/iOS refreshes as well. 4" appears to ME at least to be the screen size sweet spot. Apple has been improving iOS a ton and still seem to be app leaders, but I'm not moving to a 3.5" phone. At the same time I'm not as enticed by all of this big Android and WP7 devices. I'll just assume the usual hardware advancements will be coming with the kernel update.
I think the big two areas MS for me has to improve other than little things such as the list above would be Zune or whatever we get as a replacement along with much better cloud integration. I hope I don't have to rush out and grab Windows 8 to make all of this happen though. This is beyond just the general idea of apps apps and more apps are needed all of the time.
Vanillalite
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What gets me about stuff like this is not that I like to see the platform finally getting some good pub, but where has this all been? Hardware and software wise the Nokia phones aren't doing that much different than anyone with a launch Samsung or HTC phone updated with Mango. Did everyone just forget about WP7 until now, and they are finally getting a taste of the platform again?
Maybe companies will realize industrial design is important?
Vanillalite
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I don't disagree, but with the many phones we've gotten over the past year or two we've had some decent phone designs.
It feels more like this was Nokia's big offering which Nokia has been branded as the company to really shepherd the platform to the masses. MS and Nokia certainly tried to brand their agreement that way, and it's like media bought it. So they just laid in wait till the 1st big Nokia offering, and then went in for the praise. In between they just didn't pay any attention to the platform.
Look for a Samsung Focus on Craigslist, Kijiji, or whatever your local popular buy/sell site is.I kinda have a new obsession, collecting phones.
Android is my primary phone, picked up a Pre 2 to check out webOS. I wanna get a WP7 phone to play around with, but don't want to spend too much. Anyone see any deals on decent unlocked GSM phones around $100 or so?
Vanillalite
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Yeah I'll 2nd this. Just get an unlocked focus, and then make sure it's up to date whenever you get it. I'd be interesting to hear your impressions if you do get one.
I would also suggest a LG Optimus 7. Great little phone. Picked one up for $150, might be less now. My primary is a Gs2 but I really like Wp7. Bit of A phone nut myself.I kinda have a new obsession, collecting phones.
Android is my primary phone, picked up a Pre 2 to check out webOS. I wanna get a WP7 phone to play around with, but don't want to spend too much. Anyone see any deals on decent unlocked GSM phones around $100 or so?
Had a pre before too. I just need to get BB one day to play around with.. before they go bust lol. 
The biggest thing I miss on WP7 from Android is all the Google integration. Also Bing maps is terrible as is the navigation compared to Google. Keeping my eye on the Nokia phones for this though. One of the thing I like more about WP7 is the consistency throughout the OS and even the apps. Plus the keyboard is Much better imo.
Unknown Soldier
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ICS has it's own design guidelines and the new font Roboto. We'll see if anybody actually follows the design guidelines but Matias Duarte is trying.
Unless you really love the Metro design language, there really isn't anything in WP7 that iOS and Android do better. On Android you have widgets on the home screen instead of Live Tiles, different visually but functionally identical. I can't think of anything else unique about WP7, some people like the Zune music player UI but there's a clone music player for Android that ports that UI over. Otherwise Android has a number of superior music players like PowerAmp and PlayerPro.
ICS is the fastest and smoothest that Android has ever been, but it can't approach the fluidity of iOS and it doesn't post to Facebook as fast as WP7. This will never change, because having true multitasking on a mobile OS will always make Android heavier than the competitors. If you're adapted to the iOS or WP7 way of doing things, you won't really understand what true multitasking means until the first time you pop open Photobucket Mobile, copy an image URL from your album, hit the new magic ICS Task Switcher button, instantly switch to the Browser at the page you were on, paste the URL into the NeoGAF post you're composing, and hit Post and there's your post with the image from your Photobucket. Then you hit the magic button and you're in the YouTube app at the last video you viewed, you hit Copy URL and hit the magic button and switch to the Facebook app and it's on the last person's Wall/Timeline you were looking at and you paste it in and hit Post and you've posted the YouTube video you were looking at on your friend's Wall/Timeline.
True multitasking means everything's state is saved exactly as it was when you left it, on every app cached in memory, unless you run enough apps to trigger Android's memory management and it starts killing apps you haven't used in awhile. This is actually pretty unnerving to people who came from iPhones, because they're used to always seeing the app's home screen or front page when they relaunch it from the app drawer. The idea of the app's last state being perpetually saved, even if they return to the app the next day, is completely foreign to them. But that's what true multitasking is, and sure it means Android isn't as fluid, sometimes it stalls and chugs a bit even in ICS. But it's up to you if you value the concept of a smartphone OS that truly behaves like a desktop OS in terms of how it handles multiple applications or not.
Soulscribe
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Guys, I played around with the HTC Titan today. I think I may have fallen in love.
Access to the entire device. If you watch/read the andandtech review for ics/GN he elaborates better than I can. Android OS is about taking advantage of the platform, WP 7 is about leveraging a specific predefined idea of what an appliance/device is.
So I can access the entire device in WP7? This is news to me.
I thought my post implied favoritism towards Android.
I understand all the positives for Android as a Windows Mobile user.
Uh huh.
So it means behaving like a BlackBerry?
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