NFL Super Bowl XLVI |OT| Matchup More Unwanted Than Madonna's Halftime Show

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Back on the Eagles front I love how Andy Reid, who has not yet spoken with the media since the season ended, is not going to the Senior Bowl to scout.

Instead our GM, who is a lawyer and has no scouting or playing experience, is down there with his staff which is responsible for the last two horrendous drafts. Too much work for the fat boy.
 
Back on the Eagles front I love how Andy Reid, who has not yet spoken with the media since the season ended, is not going to the Senior Bowl to scout.

Instead our GM, who is a lawyer and has no scouting or playing experience, is down there with his staff which is responsible for the last two horrendous drafts. Too much work for the fat boy.

LOL at last years draft being horrendous. It looks like it is going to be a great draft, of course 1 year is way to early to judge a draft though. I dont see why Ried not being there matters at all, lots of teams HCs are not there. It makes more sense for the GM and scouts to be there. I would much rather Ried use this time to evaluate coaches and find a new DB coach, and decide if he can upgrade Dc or not.
 
Bowser said:
Man, Pey Pey going scorched earth on these interviews
He knows the writing is on the wall and the team is moving on with Luck. I'd guess that when Irsay and Peyton meet, Irsay is going to try to convince him to retire. If he can get back to being healthy, he isn't going to either.

I hope he doesn't. I love watching him play.
 
LOL at last years draft being horrendous. It looks like it is going to be a great draft, of course 1 year is way to early to judge a draft though. I dont see why Ried not being there matters at all, lots of teams HCs are not there. It makes more sense for the GM and scouts to be there. I would much rather Ried use this time to evaluate coaches and find a new DB coach, and decide if he can upgrade Dc or not.

It was. Casey Mathews?

Or should I qualify it as defensive drafts? Still no impact players. Going back to 2005. 2010 draft was terrible and there were no impact players from the 2011 drafts.

It matters because Howie is a lawyer by training. One of their top scouts just left to take over in Indy. You actually prefer Reid not being down there? Why? What is he doing in Philly? Taking his time to fill the DB coach position? I bet he has a WR coach in mind. After all who else knows DBs the best than WR coaches?

Upgrade DC? Hahah now? If they were going to fire Juan and replace him it would have been done. The top prospect, Spags, is already somewhere else. Now Reid is going to evaluate?
 
effzee said:
Or should I qualify it as defensive drafts? Still no impact players. Going back to 2005. 2010 draft was terrible and there were no impact players from the 2011 drafts.
Sheridan has an article on just that you might want to read:

http://www.philly.com/philly/column...hat_Eagles_team_has_Lurie_been_watching_.html

The truth is, the Eagles have been forced to add so many veterans the last few years because their drafts have been terrible. Going back to their last truly excellent team - the 2004 squad that went to the Super Bowl - the Eagles have done a terrible job of drafting replacements as defensive stars aged out.

The last impact defensive player they drafted was two months after that Super Bowl loss: Trent Cole, who was taken in the fifth round of the 2005 draft. Mike Patterson also was taken that day, but so were Matt McCoy (second-round linebacker) and Sean Considine (fourth-round safety).

In '06, the Eagles drafted Brodrick Bunkley in the first round, Chris Gocong in the third, and Omar Gaither in the fifth. In 2007, they passed on Anthony Spencer, Eric Weddle, and LaMarr Woodley - opting instead to trade out of the first round and draft Kevin Kolb. They also used a second-round pick on Victor Abiamiri and a third on Stewart Bradley.

In '08, they again traded out of the first round, then took Trevor Laws in the second round, Bryan Smith in the third, and Quintin Demps in the fourth. The next year, with Brian Dawkins gone, they took Macho Harris in the fifth round and Moise Fokou in the seventh.

These are more than just names. They are the real reason the Eagles had to flail around, looking to plug gaping holes on defense. Takeo Spikes, Darren Howard, Will Witherspoon, Ernie Sims, Sean Jones, Marlin Jackson, Ellis Hobbs, Jarrad Page - they all were brought in because McCoy, Considine, Gocong, Abiamiri, Demps, and Smith were not difference makers, or because the team passed on players who were.

With Roseman taking over from Tom Heckert as GM in 2010, the Eagles focused on defense. They traded up to take Brandon Graham in the first round, now infamously having bypassed Jason Pierre-Paul. They took Nate Allen in the second round and Te'o-Nesheim in the third (when Penn State LB NaVorro Bowman was sitting there). The late rounds produced Jamar Chaney and Kurt Coleman. The next year, they took defensive backs Jaiquawn Jarrett in the second round and Curtis Marsh in the third. Casey Matthews and Brian Rolle came later.

Thanks to their last five drafts, the Eagles spent a fortune on Asomugha, Babin, and Cullen Jenkins. They had gaping holes at all three linebacker spots and at both safeties.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Eagles originally passed on Jason Pierre-Paul? El oh el.
They traded up to the 13th pick in the draft to take Brandon Graham. The Giants took JPP at #15 and I believe the Titans (who wanted JPP bad) took Derrick Morgan at #16 if I'm remembering correctly.

When the Eagles moved up, I was sure they would take Earl Thomas..

To be entirely fair, there's no guarantee JPP develops into the player he is if he was drafted by the Eagles either. It's still too early to make a call on Graham, too.
 
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It was. Casey Mathews?

Or should I qualify it as defensive drafts? Still no impact players. Going back to 2005. 2010 draft was terrible and there were no impact players from the 2011 drafts.

It matters because Howie is a lawyer by training. One of their top scouts just left to take over in Indy. You actually prefer Reid not being down there? Why? What is he doing in Philly? Taking his time to fill the DB coach position? I bet he has a WR coach in mind. After all who else knows DBs the best than WR coaches?

Upgrade DC? Hahah now? If they were going to fire Juan and replace him it would have been done. The top prospect, Spags, is already somewhere else. Now Reid is going to evaluate?

Casey looked really good at the end of last year. It is like you just made up your mind after he played 3 games in the NFL at a new position with no OTAs. We will see what Jarret does this year, but he showed some flashes last year. The Eagles have not done well drafting defensive players, but the offensive players drafted have turned out great. Watkins and Kelce from last years draft is incredible. Anyway you are completely into negative mode now, which I can understand. It sucks they missed the playoffs, especially after seeing how the playoffs went.
 
I'd join the fun, but I stopped posting outside of the NFL topics in Buckethead's and snesfreak's honor.

I basically only post in NFL-GAF, Wrasslin' Age. A few posts here in there in the college b-ball and football threads, and that's really it.
 
They traded up to the 13th pick in the draft to take Brandon Graham. The Giants took JPP at #15 and I believe the Titans (who wanted JPP bad) took Derrick Morgan at #16 if I'm remembering correctly.

When the Eagles moved up, I was sure they would take Earl Thomas..

To be entirely fair, there's no guarantee JPP develops into the player he is if he was drafted by the Eagles either. It's still too early to make a call on Graham, too.

Everyone in Eagles land thought they were picking Earl Thomas who could have turned out to be the true successor to Brian Dawkins. Of course they don't value Safety high enough to ever use a first round pick on it so they passed. Graham I am not too down on because a lot of analysts at the time had him as the #1 DE over JPP and Morgan. Can't fault them on that and then he had a serious knee injury so the jury is still out. Though he wasn't that impressive when he did play as a rookie and obviously this year after his injury. I want to see a lot from him this coming season.

It could also simply be that a DE going to the Giants has a better chance at developing since they seem to excel at doing that.


I read that this morning. Made my blood boil.


Casey looked really good at the end of last year. It is like you just made up your mind after he played 3 games in the NFL at a new position with no OTAs. We will see what Jarret does this year, but he showed some flashes last year. The Eagles have not done well drafting defensive players, but the offensive players drafted have turned out great. Watkins and Kelce from last years draft is incredible. Anyway you are completely into negative mode now, which I can understand. It sucks they missed the playoffs, especially after seeing how the playoffs went.

Bought into the 4 game winning streak against some terrible teams and QBs have you?

I didn't make up my mind just after 3 games though anyone could see from a mile away that Casey Mathews might one day develop into a starter BUT he wasn't ready to start especially at MLB which is a position he never played before.

And even if I did make up mind, it would be still 3 whole games more than the Eagles, who made up their mind in the lockout period that they would just insert him into the starting lineup @ MLB without even seeing him play or practice. It was a disaster everyone saw coming, just like Juan. And especially because they let Bradley sign with Arizona and had no depth or veteran.

And while the team played better D overall at the end, again they were facing mediocre offenses, a breakdown of the tape reveals LBs still out of position, not able to get off of their blocks, missing tackles, and wrong gap coverage. Brian Baldinger broke down the tape and mentioned that if they were playing better QBs, they would have been picked apart. Maybe the talent is there, but we wouldn't even know since we don't have a real DC.

And I am not in complete negative mode, this is reality. You are really naive if you think the Eagles would have made any sort of run similar to the Giants in the playoffs. The Eagles four game win streak was referred to as "fools gold" by the owner himself and we want to invest our hopes into that?

Also a part of this reality is the Eagles complete lack of ability to draft a impact defensive player. Again the last time they did was in 2005 in the 5th round with Trent Cole. Since then they have hit on some offensive players but none on Defense.

Graham might turn out to be something, we don't know. Doesn't look too bright yet. Nate Allen regressed in his 2nd year. Safety is still a weakness. Jarrett showed absolutely nothing and looked lost when inserted into the line up. Maybe they just need a full-offseason and camp but where as other teams are seeing immediate returns from their drafts we aren't. The reason we had to sign so many FAs in the off season is because the draft, which they rely on primarily, has failed them for a # of years now.

And Watkins and Kelce is incredible? Really? Incredible is the word you would use for a draft that produces 2 starting linemen? They aren't pro-bowlers. And Kelce only started over Jackson because the new OLINE coach preferred smaller athletic guys. Watkins, a Guard, in the first round is a low value return. Most teams shy away from guard in the first round. But I am glad they got him and it panned out, though initially he looked lost as hell himself. But even with these two guys, the Eagles biggest weakness the last few seasons has been defense, and it still is. The OLINE is improved but the defensive drafts are still abysmal and I don't see how it will improve when they handicap themselves with their insane philosophy that doesn't put enough value into LB and Safeties. Oh and our DC is still the guy who never coached defense in his life before Reid decided to hand over the job to him. HOORAY FOR BRIGHT FUTURE!
 
Well I know I make it a point to watch the game, where before I'd just watch the skills competition stuff.

If you want to watch a football game where no one plays defense and the outcome doesn't matter, the Packers and Saints played in week 1. I'm sure there's some highlights online.
 
I was wondering, would more people watch the Pro Bowl if the game was more like the NHL All Star game has been in the past two years? I know I'd be interested to watch.

There's a couple of things I like about what the NHL started last year. I like that they're not broken up into conferences or US vs. the World or any of that nonsense. They name a captain and an alternate or two and then those guys basically play "pick up" with who's left. It was fun to see Eric Staal go about 6 or 7 rounds before picking his brother last year, and Kane looked salty as fuck when Toews kept passing him over. Leaving Kessel's fat ass for last was also a riot.

The skills competition is still the highlight of the NHL All Star weekend. The game itself is about as lame as any other All Star game. No one hits anyone, no one is interested in getting hurt, the score is around 11-10.

I think the NFL could change up the Pro Bowl with some of that. Make it a pick up game, for one. Go with a full set of skills items. Hell, punt/pass/kick. 40 yd sprints, 100 yd sprints. See who the fastest player in the NFL is. See who the fastest OL in the league. Last year Cam Ward and Tim Thomas raced each other in the skills competition for fastest goalie. They were obviously having fun with it. The problem with All Star games in general is that you can tell the guys aren't really having a ton of fun, or if they are it isn't very fun to watch. The same with NBA All Star weekend; there's more fun in the 3-point shooting contest and slam dunk contest than in the actual game.

Maybe the Pro Bowl should be Flag Football. And held in London. That way Goodell can try out all his policies at once.
 
It really has been the worst year for football since at least 2004.

It is pretty sad that the Pats have now ruined 5 out of the last 12 Superbowls and yet all Goodell cares about is helping the big owners and pussifying the league more and more every year.

To be fair, the last NYG/NE SB was the best football game -- other than the Steelers SB victories -- of all time. Watching those fuckers lose their perfect season in the SB was abso-fucking-lutely priceless.

But you're right: seeing them in yet another one makes me want to vomit. And if they win then the NFL should have stayed locked out forever (as I've said before).

The Giants are the only ones who can save football.
 
To be fair, the last NYG/NE SB was the best football game -- other than the Steelers SB victories -- of all time. Watching those fuckers lose their perfect season in the SB was abso-fucking-lutely priceless.

But you're right: seeing them in yet another one makes me want to vomit. And if they win then the NFL should have stayed locked out forever (as I've said before).

The Giants are the only ones who can save football.

Pure blooded evil.
 
To be fair, the last NYG/NE SB was the best football game -- other than the Steelers SB victories -- of all time. Watching those fuckers lose their perfect season in the SB was abso-fucking-lutely priceless.

But you're right: seeing them in yet another one makes me want to vomit. And if they win then the NFL should have stayed locked out forever (as I've said before).

The Giants are the only ones who can save football.
Most of the Superbowls from the last decade have actually been pretty entertaining with the exceptions of the Colts SB, Steelers/Seahawks and of course watching Vinatieri carry the evil Pats to 3 Superbowl victories on his clutch feet.

But I do agree that we should all agree to boycott the NFL forever if the Pats win this year and take up some lesser sport.
 
To be fair, the last NYG/NE SB was the best football game -- other than the Steelers SB victories -- of all time. Watching those fuckers lose their perfect season in the SB was abso-fucking-lutely priceless.

It was the second worst loss for any team in any sport I follow.

But you're right: seeing them in yet another one makes me want to vomit. And if they win then the NFL should have stayed locked out forever (as I've said before).

The Giants are the only ones who can save football.

The Giants should win the game, they're playing much better. There's a reason the line went from 4 to 2.5 in a day. It should be basically even.

Sidenote: I laugh at almost all your posts. Not because they're funny really but because I imagine your avatar reading them with his extra creepy voice.
 
It really has been the worst year for football since at least 2004.

It is pretty sad that the Pats have now ruined 5 out of the last 12 Superbowls and yet all Goodell cares about is helping the big owners and pussifying the league more and more every year.

This is all bullshit! How do you not at least look at the Lee Evans catch a second time? Why are we not investigating the Patriots, known cheaters, for having the scoreboard show the wrong down at a crucial instance?

Oh wait, now I sound like a Niners fan. Scratch those complaints. We lost. Period.
 
This is all bullshit! How do you not at least look at the Lee Evans catch a second time? Why are we not investigating the Patriots, known cheaters, for having the scoreboard show the wrong down at a crucial instance?

Oh wait, now I sound like a Niners fan. Scratch those complaints. We lost. Period.

They should have reviewed the Evans catch.

Harbaugh/Cundiff should have called timeout for two reasons. One to give the stupid asshole in the replay booth more time to decide whether or not to review it. Two because Cundiff was obviously rushed onto the field.

And to clarify you sound (jokingly) like the Niners bitch coach rather than their fans. Their fans have been okay now that they've lost.
 
Is anyone going to be wanting to make a deal for Ryan Mallett? Or do the Pats not resign Hoyer and keep him as the backup?
 
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