TheExplodingHead
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Was there ever any confusion this would be a holiday launch? I thought that was a given...
Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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JosephManderley
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There has been some talk going back to last E3 about a summer launch.
Apparently, they targetted a summer launch at first. But as expected, software is all but ready.
See here, investors meeting shizzle, keep an eye out for that icky freak!
Kevin Fuckin' Costner U bumming postman!
Kevin Fuckin' Costner U bumming postman!
AceBandage
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It doesn't.
People just assume that "By the end of the year" means the last possible day.
TheExplodingHead
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The summer launch stuff just never made common sense to me, especially in this economy being a big ticket item. Same type of gibberish we heard about Zelda SS being a 2011 "early release", just didn't make any sense and we see how that turned out.
Well, regardless of how much more powerful the Wii U is compared to current gen consoles, I'm glad to note that there hasn't been a single rumor so far that suggested it's weaker in any way so I'm fairly content with that. Now, the more powerful the machine is the better, but my original high end hopes were that it would be as powerful as a 360, so it's already achieved that goal. (I thought Nintendo would stick with 256 MB of RAM if we were lucky)
AceBandage
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None of this even makes sense...
Why would they make it so much weaker than the 360 and expect it to go anywhere?
Plinko
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You would have been happy with a system that was equal in power to a machine released 6 years ago?
Last E3 they had said as early as April or even the summer.
IceDoesntHelp
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Well they did say "by the end of the year" when mentioning the GBA games, and we did get those in December..so maybe people are drawing conclusions from previous acts.
lol no, Nintendo said, "No earlier than March, but before 2012 ends", or something on the lines of that.
AceBandage
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No...
They said the soonest they would launch would be April.
The absolute soonest.
They never gave a "We'll release it around".
Well most rumours were that it was barely more powerful. But that's not the case anymore with new tumours from IGN and Kotaku.
That meant to read "as early as".
Um...haven't you heard of this thing called the Wii?
Not exactly. Iwata talked a lot about diminishing returns and all that, and I felt he sorta had a point, but the problem was, they were a generation too early.
So, not happy with the Wii, but moderately satisfied with Wii U.
Maths can be weird sometimes - Wii U vs Xbox 720 hardware power calculation
AceBandage
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Taking the 3DS launch, a potential 6 month lead on the competetion and an unapposed Christmas period into account, id be shocked if they launched between January and March 2013 even if they did mean fiscal years.
It may have been more powerful, but just barely.
Regardless, the point is that if Nintendo didn't have a problem being a WHOLE GENERATION behind without having their financials taking a hit, why would they kill themselves to go with any significant upgrade?
AceBandage
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Because the Wii was lightning in a bottle that can't be repeated, and they know that.
There is no magical motion controls that can suddenly bring in those tens of millions of users again.
They need a sustainable platform this time around and cutting the 360 in half would have been the dumbest move any company has ever made.
Damon Bennet
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Re: Wi-Fi connection...
It still seems to be in use on the DS. I noticed this when looking at the Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition boxart last night.
wtf is that. looks... awesome?
AmICoolYet
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herzogzwei1989
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November 2012 seems most likely. At least before the world ends. hahahaha.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Sounds like no Tomb Raider reboot for WiiU:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460348
Hopefully Nintendo can get other big multi-platform games like at least RE6 and GTA V.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460348
Hopefully Nintendo can get other big multi-platform games like at least RE6 and GTA V.
I agree with all of this.
andthebeatgoeson
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Yup, they have to be in range for the 3rd party ports. They can't sustain another console and hope to be successful again.
My biggest problem will be finding one. It'll be sold out from launch thru February. Not gonna be able to walk in day after launch and pick one up.
IceDoesntHelp
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Guess I'm not getting Tomb Raider..oh well.
When is the game due out? If it's out in the next few months, then I understand not bothering with a port if it ends up coming out half a year after the PS360 versions. If it's out towards the end of the year, then someone at Eidos should just say to Crystal Dynamics "Do a cheapo Wii U port, get it running at 1080p and throw a map or inventory or something on the screen." The fact that no-one at Eidos understands that this would be profitable is a sign that they're either economically incompetent, in that they don't realise that a low-cost port doesn't have to sell like crazy, or they're technologically incompetent, and are thinking "Wii ports were expensive, therefore Wii U ports will be expensive". Given the fact that they're porting it to the Mac, I'd rule out the former, so it seems to be the case that the people running Eidos don't have even the most basic understanding of the technology which their business is based on. Given the performance of the company over the last few years, this wouldn't surprise me too much.
specialguy
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Better question, why are we always comparing it to 360? does PS3 not exist?
It's kinda odd...
Probably arguable, but I wont even start that flamewar where I'll be outnumbered 100-1 in this thread.
I asked the same question yesterday
odd that everything is relative to the 360, but most would agree the PS3 is a stronger console.
*Shrugs*
Those two are easier to compare I guess. PS3 is a weird platform with exotic components that's very hard to gauge. Not to mention 360 was first and has more mindshare, so it's an obvious baseline to work with.
Could it just be that the hardware itself is more easily compared to the 360s?
XBox360 has a symmetric multi-core IBM CPU and an AMD GPU. The Wii U will have a (mostly) symmetric multi-core IBM CPU and an AMD CPU. In comparison the PS3 has a crazily asymmetric multi-core IBM CPU and a nVidia GPU, so the XBox360 is a much more relevant starting point for comparisons.
DragonKnight
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What are everyone's honest expectations from nintendo during this coming E3? Me? I'm cashing in all my chips and expecting the big N to go H.A.M. That includes first party games, relevant third party games, competent online and the games that make this new controller more than just a gimmick. Anything less I feel will be a massive disappointment.
Edit: If they do all of the above, count me in for day one.
Edit: If they do all of the above, count me in for day one.
Considering that the release is going to be within a few months of E3, I imagine we will see the whole thing as it will be at release. It will be extremely disappointing to see enhanced tech demos. basically, it will be similar to the Wii coming out party.
That doesn't mean we'll like what we see.
That doesn't mean we'll like what we see.
specialguy
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Ehh, not buying it, "power" doesnt depend on any exotic architecture. The results on the screen dont matter to whats under the hood and that's what we're really comparing. PS3 and 360 itself have certainly been compared to death...
Ok, I buy it a little bit, but not entirely.
JosephManderley
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I'm expecting a surprise from Nintendo at E3. I'd love if the final model controller had a 3D screen like the 3DS or something unexpected like that. While that is an unlikely example - I'm sure there is something cool about the Wii U that we don't know about yet.
H.A.M.? Will Nintendo be entering the George Foreman grilling competition against the PS3?
I hope it's the type of E3 where they paint with a broad brush and cover every angle of their new platform (E3 2010). I hope we don't get the Nintendo that deliberately downplays certain games because they want to focus on a specific experience (E3 2008).
I'm expecting BIG, though. I mean, I can't remember another E3 where Nintendo had so much ground to cover. Not even with the original Wii - where they really only had to introduce the console and show the controls to massive hype. With the Wii U, they're going to have to show how the Wii U is an evolution of the core principles of Wii, as well as clearly demonstrate how the Wii U is going to be a different experience altogether (HD gaming, quality online and all that entails, significant 3rd party support, innovative use of touch screen controls, etc.). AND they still have the 3DS to think about.
I think this is going to be the most jam-packed E3 we've seen from Nintendo in years. Hopefully Reggie gets with a speech coach so he can speak faster.
But we're not comparing results on screen yet because we don't have any finished games running on final hardware to compare between. What we do have are speculated specifications, and if they say that, for example, the GPU has 640 SPUs and runs at 700MHz, then it's a lot easier to say "That's X times more powerful than the XBox360 GPU" than "That's Y times more powerful than the PS3 GPU", because the former is basically just an earlier version of the same architecture, whereas the latter is a different architecture and hence more difficult to make "apples to apples" comparisons with. That's not to say that "X times more powerful than XBox360" is a particularly helpful comparison to make, just that it's an easier comparison to make.
IceDoesntHelp
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Just thinking how expensive that would make the controller and the console hurts my brain. According to Nintendo and devs(?) there is something Nintendo isn't sharing..
specialguy
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Can you imagine how exciting it's going to be to see semi-final Wii U graphics for the first time? The meltdowns in either direction could be fantabulous.
That is if stuff doesnt leak prior, which it probably will.
specialguy
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Ehh, the GPU's are probably equally diverse in all three.
The CPU's are a lot different.
I'm sure we'll get leaks of third party stuff beforehand, but I think it's fair to say that Nintendo's own games will be pushing the hardware the most.
I don't want any NOA employee on the stage although I know Reggie is going to speak. The guy has never given anything resembling a motivational speech since his introduction.
Iwata is much better.
fabricated backlash
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Please don't tell me that this is an official image published by Videogameszone.de... please tell me they didn't fall to this level of retardation. Their users, yeah, they are mostly a bunch of fanboyish kids (at least in tone) but now even the outlet is on this level of bullshit?
wow
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I just looked it up... what has happened to this site... hell when you make the Bild Zeitung look like the epitome of serious journalism, with dedicated and fair articles, then you know something's up. Now that I think about it, didn't they start doing advertisement for phone (soft)porn sites in their publications as well?
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