[Anime] Your "Controversial" Opinions

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GAFnimu-controversial: I really like Code Geass. I especially like R2
because fucking Suzaku over for the rest of his life is a good thing
 
thetechkid said:
You know that is the most generic complaint.
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I just can't find any recent stuff thats actually good. Code Geass I couldn't get in to , FMA: Brotherhood was nowhere near as good as the original anime series which I found was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Also Bleach was awesome the first season but than it just became garbage with the lack of story progression.
 
Zee-Row said:
I just can't find any recent stuff thats actually good. Code Geass I couldn't get in to , FMA: Brotherhood was nowhere near as good as the original anime series which I found was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Also Bleach was awesome the first season but than it just became garbage with the lack of story progression.
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Have you watched Gurren Lagann?

Or have you done any research on the hundreds of other shows and movies that came out within the last 3 years?
 
The manga is better than the anime most of the time. Cheap animation is such a buzzkill compared to good comic art.

The Gurren Lagann movies are a waste of time.

If they ever made an anime for Yotsuba (would better humanity) and it gets released in the west, I'll be totally cool with it being called "Clover&".
 
Zee-Row said:
I just can't find any recent stuff thats actually good. Code Geass I couldn't get in to , FMA: Brotherhood was nowhere near as good as the original anime series which I found was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Also Bleach was awesome the first season but than it just became garbage with the lack of story progression.
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Your joking right FMA was good but the ending was garbage brotherhood made a lot more sense and is all around better. I recommend to most people to not even watch FMA and to just watch brotherhood because brotherhood was how the story was supposed to be in the first place.
 
Gurren really is overrated like other's have said. Yeah the first half was good but the 2nd half not so much. It's a good series but not what I would call a great series.

AS for FMA: Brotherhood that series lack a great OST. It was one of the main weakness of the Brotherhood series. The first series had a much better OST IMO. The story was better in Brotherhood though especially the ending even if it wasn't all that great of an ending, it was at least better than the first series ending. The movie that came after was even more crap.
 
Riposte said:
The manga is better than the anime most of the time. Cheap animation is such a buzzkill compared to good comic art.

The Gurren Lagann movies are a waste of time.
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If it began as a manga it's best as a manga. If it began as an anime it's best as an anime. This is absolute.
 
Typographenia said:
Wait, this is a controversial stance? I'm gonna have to beat some people up, if that's the case... Big O is awesome, and the world will know!
I think the second season, while not as great as the first, was still superb.
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I think most people like Big O, to varying degrees. It's certainly one of my favorites.

Zee-Row said:
I just can't find any recent stuff thats actually good. Code Geass I couldn't get in to , FMA: Brotherhood was nowhere near as good as the original anime series which I found was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Also Bleach was awesome the first season but than it just became garbage with the lack of story progression.
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Perhaps you should broaden your horizons. I mean Code Geass is considered more "entertaining" than good. FMA:B is a remake/re-adaption so that can go either way. And Bleach is...well Bleach.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
Have you watched Gurren Lagann?

Or have you done any research on the hundreds of other shows and movies that came out within the last 3 years?
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Saw that and saw 10 episodes of Soul Eater which was supposed to be critically acclaimed and i just didn't see what was special about it either.
 
shadyspace said:
If it began as a manga it's best as a manga. If it began as an anime it's best as an anime. This is absolute.
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So the Ghost in the Shell manga was better than the movies? How about Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal? Gunslinger Girl? Shigurui? And those are just some of the examples most people agree on; I can think of sone others I personally prefer even if some people might not (e.g. Fullmetal Alchemist, Berserk).
 
shadyspace said:
Yu Yu Hakusho is the best shonen anime of all time. Is this controversial?
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Not really. I think most would agree that it's at least up there. For me it's between that, Rurouni Kenshin and Fullmetal Alchemist (which admittedly isn't quite as adherent to the traditional shonen fighting formula as RK and YYH, being more adventure than action oriented). (Death Note is shonen in name only.)
 
Instro said:
Possibly the craziest thing I've read in this thread, well done!
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The idea of source material means nothing to you? "Yeah, I liked the book better though" said when walking out of an film adaptation is a cliche for a reason. I was being a bit cheeky with the "absolute" line, of course there are exceptions. It hold true in general.
 
perfectnight said:
May I ask why you found it horrible?
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The show should have been about Blue and the old man. : (


The only thing I really hated about the show was many of the character designs. They felt like they undermined the setting and tone of the series, and it really annoyed me. Other than that, I quite enjoyed the show.
 
gatotsu911 said:
So the Ghost in the Shell manga was better than the movies?
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Having an index in the back of the book to help explain the Major's lesbian orgy party was a nice touch. Then again, the movie didn't need an index, so point to the movie.

I prefer the animated work much more so than the manga. : P
 
shadyspace said:
The idea of source material means nothing to you? "Yeah, I liked the book better though" said when walking out of an film adaptation is a cliche for a reason. I was being a bit cheeky with the "absolute" line, of course there are exceptions. It hold true in general.
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I never said that, however I can name plenty of anime that are significantly better than their source manga. There is no general rule about adaptions vs source material, particularly in manga to anime adaptions.
 
shadyspace said:
The idea of source material means nothing to you? "Yeah, I liked the book better though" said when walking out of an film adaptation is a cliche for a reason. I was being a bit cheeky with the "absolute" line, of course there are exceptions. It hold true in general.
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If you're that guy saying you liked the book better you need a) stop going to movies or 2) shut up about how you thought the book was better.

This is more about the "book is better than the movie" guy than the argument you're having.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
...marry me?
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icarus-daedelus said:
:') (happy tears!)
I haven't seen Eva recently enough to judge, so as long as you don't have an Asuka body pillow, I'll live with it. I'd have to learn to love David Lynch movies other than Dune, though...

Well yeah, that and making NeoGAF in-jokes. We can also, like, totally get a basset hound, geographical distance be damned!

(If by earlly Oshii you mean 1984-ish through 2004, yes. I'd like to believe he's still got it, live-action & shitting-up-his-own-classics notwithstanding. Believe!)

...wait wait wait, back up, you like Argento too?! *faints*
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InfiniteNine is going to be so heartbroken when she sees this. :(
 
Typographenia said:
Having an index in the back of the book to help explain the Major's lesbian orgy party was a nice touch. Then again, the movie didn't need an index, so point to the movie.

I prefer the animated work much more so than the manga. : P
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The sheer volume (and utter gratuitousness) of margin notes and appendices - on top of the reams and reams of obtuse expository dialogue - actually elevates the manga to a certain level of surreal comedy.
 
perfectnight said:
May I ask why you found it horrible?
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Because putting a yoko kanno soundtrack on a subpar series really shows how weak said series is

I never got the reason why witch hunter robin was so popular. I'm guessing adult swim because that show was garbage

Speaking of adult swim, that channel has the worst anime fans imaginable. Bleach and inu yasha can run forever, but detective conan gets a 40 episode run? Fuck that noise.

I still don't get what "moe" and "tsundere" mean. I just assume they have something to do with girls with big eyes.

Fans of lucky star and k-on have no right to say anything about pony fans. Period.

I don't get the appeal of haruhi suzumiya. Like at all.

Love hina is one of the worst series I've ever read(and I finished the manga). And its fans baffle me as to how physical abuse on someone you supposedly care about is " funny"
 
Another one (altough I'm not sure if it's really that controversial):

Brain Base is by far the best anime studio now and in the last few years.
 
gatotsu911 said:
Not really. I think most would agree that it's at least up there. For me it's between that, Rurouni Kenshin and Fullmetal Alchemist (which admittedly isn't quite as adherent to the traditional shonen fighting formula as RK and YYH, being more adventure than action oriented). (Death Note is shonen in name only.)
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This reminds me of another controversial opinion.

Ruruouni Kenshin is good, but it's not that good. Yeah, the Kyoto arc is amazing, but the early stuff has a tendency to drag on, and a lot of the comedy feels forced. When it's on, it's awesome, but there's a lot of mediocre stuff mixed in.
 
gatotsu911 said:
Agreed. I went into it with sky-high expectations and by less than a dozen episodes in they were all destroyed. After the episode where Tenma treats a bunch of terrorists because he's such a good person and then they decide to renounce their lives of crime and turn themselves in, because Tenma is such a good person, that was when I definitively decided that I was through with this shit.

Also whenever I'm describing this show to people I always take care to mention that there is one episode where the protagonist learns how to fire a gun, and that is the entire plot of the entire episode.
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I had issues with the gun firing episode too.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
This reminds me of another controversial opinion.

Ruruouni Kenshin is good, but it's not that good. Yeah, the Kyoto arc is amazing, but the early stuff has a tendency to drag on, and a lot of the comedy feels forced. When it's on, it's awesome, but there's a lot of mediocre stuff mixed in.
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Anime, or manga? The first season of the anime has some truly awful filler episodes and cringe-inducing "comedy". The manga still has some dorky silliness, but overall isn't nearly as bad. Also it has an entire third arc that ended up being relegated (in chopped and abbreviated form) to the OVAs.
 
AdrianWerner said:
Another one (altough I'm not sure if it's really that controversial):

Brain Base is by far the best anime studio now and in the last few years.
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Brains Base has made some great shows, but they don't have a consistently strong production quality (see Akikan, Spice and Wolf II). 2011 was a particularly awkward year for them, since they overextended themselves with a relatively large number of projects and so caused production problems to crop up in all their shows, most notably Natsume Season 3 and Mawaru Penguin Drum. So they're not the best.

Right now I don't think any one studio is clearly better than all the rest, although Kyoto Animation is unquestionably the best one to work at.
 
- Gundam 0083: Stardust memories save for the nice animation and fights is pretty bad with offensively bad writing in the second half of the series, I think it tends to be more offensive than the average tomino series, because it AT LEAST had some potential for genuine greatness with koh and gato being interesting characters.
- K-ON!/K-ON!! is a better 4koma series than Azumanga daioh
- Kannagi is actually a good show apart from the last two episodes! it's a shame yamakan never topped it in his lifetime
- Makoto shinkai is a hack with all his films been the same shit over and over.
- Macross plus is pretty overrated, it has some nice direction, music and action but it's kind of held back by the poor writing which takes itself to seriously for it's own good, macross is at it's best when it's high-energy and campy.
- Turn A Gundam is the best gundam
- Gurren lagann second half is way better than most people give credit for.
- Spice and wolf is pretty dull apart from the relationship dynamic (which is what makes it worth watching!)
 
To reiterate a point I made in OP: Steve Blum is popular mainly for having a cool-sounding voice, but cannot actually emote worth a damn. Contrast with Spike Spencer, who has a silly-sounding voice and thus doesn't get a lot of roles, but can actually produce layered emotion.
 
Lafiel said:
- Gundam 0083: Stardust memories save for the nice animation and fights is pretty bad with offensively bad writing in the second half of the series, I think it tends to be more offensive than the average tomino series, because it AT LEAST had some potential for genuine greatness with koh and gato being interesting characters.
- K-ON!/K-ON!! is a better 4koma series than Azumanga daioh
- Kannagi is actually a good show apart from the last two episodes! it's a shame yamakan never topped it in his lifetime
- Makoto shinkai is a hack with all his films been the same shit over and over.
- Macross plus is pretty overrated, it has some nice direction, music and action but it's kind of held back by the poor writing which takes itself to seriously for it's own good, macross is at it's best when it's high-energy and campy.
- Turn A Gundam is the best gundam
- Gurren lagann second half is way better than most people give credit for.
- Spice and wolf is pretty dull apart from the relationship dynamic (which is what makes it worth watching!)
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I agree about Kannagi.
Wing is best Gundam, but thats probably childhood nostalgia.
 
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