I can agree with this.
Most of my friends and co-workers fav anime ever is ippo, everyone I recommend it to goes "huh a sports anime really?" only to come back a month later with beard telling me they’re going to start boxing.
[Anime] Your "Controversial" Opinions
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I can agree with this.
Most of my friends and co-workers fav anime ever is ippo, everyone I recommend it to goes "huh a sports anime really?" only to come back a month later with beard telling me they’re going to start boxing.
While I realize that they're pretty damn lazy writing, I can't help but love tournaments.
Oh, and I feel like the biggest issue with dubs is how much they reuse the same voice actors. (I couldn't take Death Note's dub even vaguely seriously as the voice actor for Light was the same that was used for Lan from that kinda crappy MMBN show.) (However, I also don't watch dubs because subs are great supplemental tools for learning Japanese.)
Oh, and I feel like the biggest issue with dubs is how much they reuse the same voice actors. (I couldn't take Death Note's dub even vaguely seriously as the voice actor for Light was the same that was used for Lan from that kinda crappy MMBN show.) (However, I also don't watch dubs because subs are great supplemental tools for learning Japanese.)
Infinite Ryvius is one of his better works, as far as that goes. Not that they're good designs, but there's at least some level of individualism.
gatotsu911
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This is kind of a weird example. Most popular Japanese VAs have been in way, way more shows than Brad Swaille.
Also I don't think anime subtitles are a very reliable way of learning Japanese.
Femmeworth
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I think the biggest issue with dubs is there are not a whole lot of VA directors, and most of them are not that great.
Basileus777
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The subs probably don't help much, but listening to people speak is pretty useful when learning a foreign language.
two people i showed actually did take up boxing
whereas ashita no joe is a bit too old school for your average to appreciate
Well, it's certainly not the fastest paced show, at least the first half. It's very much a show about building a certain atmosphere, so I guess the reception depends on how much you appreciate the world and characters it establishes.
This is a terrible justification given how many times similar people appear in the Japanese side as well. I've heard Nozawa amongst a whole cast a bunch of times.
Perhaps it's just things lining up for me oddly, but I certainly can't think of anyone as prevalent as Johnny Yong Bosch or Vic Mignogna have been from my experience in watching dubs.
Regardless on how wrong I may be on the first point, though, as subs help me keep up on hearing the language and maybe occasionally picking up a new word or two, that's what I'm going to keep up with anyway.
I appreciate the world and characters very much, but I wished the show would do more with them.
Still, it's a good show.
gatotsu911
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Finally someone who recognizes that quality of direction can make or break voice acting. Like, seriously, US VAs rely on directors for EVERY LAST BIT of context, so if you have an apathetic ADR director you're going to get flat, disjointed, choppy performances, even if the actors are individually talented.
gatotsu911
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Yeah, but watching something subtitled is a totally different experience from watching it raw. Subs take up more of your attention than you might think; when they're on, that's where your focus is, and the actual words being spoken by the actors become mostly background noise if you don't already know the language. If you want to use anime as a language-learning tool (already a dubious choice in the first place) it makes more sense to memorize a script for a show or scene, then watch it raw so your full attention is on the language. You don't just start picking up the language from watching a lot of subbed stuff.
ElectricBlue187
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Its been a long time since I've watched it but I'm pretty sure I agree with you. I really enjoyed the world but the storyline was somewhat dull. Serial Experiments: Lain suffered from the same kind of thing
Watched Millenium Actress for the first time, It was pretty good. I thought the scene towards the end where
to be especially poignant. That said I think given the short time that was spent with the guy in the beginning makes the chase really dumb seeing as nothing happened in that time, but a romantic thought nonetheless. Good movie, much better than that trash, Paprika.
Also, Hiru no Tsuki from Outlaw Star might be the best ending theme(definitely most memorable for me at least) for an anime ever.
she's running frantically and the scenery is constantly changing
Also, Hiru no Tsuki from Outlaw Star might be the best ending theme(definitely most memorable for me at least) for an anime ever.
I'm not claiming it's an active tool for learning the language, but more a nice supplementary tool that can be used passively while consuming entertainment you'd be consuming anyway. And for that it most certainly works. Putting in no real effort into learning the language through other means, I was able to pick up virtually all the vocabulary and a good bit of grammar needed that ended up showing up in my first semester of Japanese, and all by simply watching a ton of anime subbed. It certainly doesn't help with everything (such as the finer points of the grammar), but it IS helpful. Meanwhile, it's also helpful if in keeping you in practice, as it makes you hear the language a lot more than you usually would.
Sure, watching things raw would be more helpful if you were using the series purely as a tool, but they're a lot less useful as entertainment.
Never thought Grave of Fireflies was any good (This movie didn't make me cry, it made me angry) for two reasons.
1. The older brother was dumb and caused their death. Yes I know they are supposed to be kids who don't make the best decisions. but I can't help but think if he'd just suck it up and don't run away from the aunt's place they both would have survived.
2. Japanese being portrayed as victims when they started that war, I didn't feel good about that knowing the atrocities they committed.
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Martian Successor Nadesico > Neon Genesis Evangelion
Evangelion's TV ending was great, the movies were not needed.
G Gundam is the best non UC Gundam series.
1. The older brother was dumb and caused their death. Yes I know they are supposed to be kids who don't make the best decisions. but I can't help but think if he'd just suck it up and don't run away from the aunt's place they both would have survived.
2. Japanese being portrayed as victims when they started that war, I didn't feel good about that knowing the atrocities they committed.
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Martian Successor Nadesico > Neon Genesis Evangelion
Evangelion's TV ending was great, the movies were not needed.
G Gundam is the best non UC Gundam series.
1. Ok
2. Wha? So the common people who suffered and died in Japan have no right to complain? Is that what you're saying? They're as much victims as the people in Korea or something.
NaughtyCalibur
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Evangelion is a piece of shit.
Cowboy Bebop is amazing though. Perhaps the best anime series ever made.
Cowboy Bebop is amazing though. Perhaps the best anime series ever made.
I have a hard time believing these are very controversial opinions.
This is so incredibly narrow minded I cringed. Seriously?
Well, it is my controversial opinion after all, I'm not asking for anyone to agree with me. Not to say they don't have the right to talk about their suffering. For me, it's not great to see them talk about how they are suffering through tear jerking with little kids, but make no mention of their aggressions that got them to this place. It's more of the portrayal as Japan is losing the war, wah wah, look at how kids suffer rather than Japan acted recklessly to try and conquer others, therefore their people suffer as a consequence. The blame seems to be placed on the people that defeated Japan (with the B-29 bombing, the news of IJN's defeat etc), instead of the leaders of Japan.
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Did you watch the same movie we did? This wasn't the place for a story about war politics. It was a personal story about the after effects from a disaster. The war was a backdrop to the terrible things that happened. It was not the plot of the movie. It could have been an earth quake and the story would still be the same.
So instead of the story being about how these poor kids are dying from hunger they should talk about how evil the government was?
1. not worth arguing
2. you're really going to blame the common people? You think all Japanese were inherently evil?
controversial opinion sure, a rather dumb criticism of the movie.
Maybe I'll give this a watch. I agree with both of your other points
Nothing controversial about this.
See, that's much more controversial. And wrong. At least Howl's Moving Castle has nice visuals. And at least Ponyo has nice visuals and doesn't insult the viewers with an asspull ending.
Lavalamp1138
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Aww yeah! My Gateway OP.
which movie are we talking about again?
Grave of the fireflies wasn't about who was in the right
not even close
I don't even know where to begin or if I should indeed begin. There are innocent people in all sides of a war and their suffering is not smaller or greater according to the side they're on. War has made countless orphans throughout history and I doubt politics, international relationships or what have you are even on their mind.
but the asspull ending of earthsea with
TEHANU TURNING INTO A FUCKING DRAGON
Yeah that was kind of amazing. I didn't even know I was watching a
furry
But the middle of the movie was so freaking boring. Not even the plot twist of Goro's thinly-disguised and sad commentary on his father could save it.
Vulcano's assistant
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About Grave of the Fireflies: I don't remember quite well, but I thought the aunt symbolized well that the foreign enemy was not the one receiving the blame.
See, I'm not sure if I agree with that the aunt is the one to blame. who's to blame for the war in the first place aside, I thought it was more of in general a war is a horrible thing that created conditions that change decent people . The aunt tried to provide for them within her means, but the worsening condition of their lives due to the war is changing her psychologically, thinning her patience with the kids, and reached a boiling point where even a person that did try to do good is driven to speak out venomous things against a kid who doesn't have the capacity to fully understand.
gatotsu911
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Agreed.
Femmeworth
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Mortrialus
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This is probably the most morally offensive thing I have ever seen anyone write on this forum. You might as well have wrote "So what if approximately 100,000 women were raped during the Russian occupation of Berlin. The Germans started the war. Those civilians had it coming."
gatotsu911
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Baccano! is vapid nonsense. The non-chronological storytelling is just a gimmick to add illusory depth to a plot that is otherwise just a bunch of "So what?" Not one of the characters posseses so much as a speck of believability, and the show never justifies the use of its (commendably unconventional) setting. Even the fights aren't all that exciting. Also, guys, shut up about the dub: those horrible Faux York accents are annoying, not endearing.
Wiktor
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Hellsing321
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Me thinks you were missing the point of Baccano if you were looking for depth or believability. Heres a hint:
Because its fun!
Not all that pungently offensive an opinion.
I couldn't muster the will to finish Gankutsuo :-/
Phrased differently, it doesn't feel worth finishing.
Typographenia
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I would argue for this opinion, but I think we'll be far outweighed by something else in Gainax's roster.
Yup.
Hand painted cel days are so much more enjoyable to view, for me.
gatotsu911
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It's hard for me to have fun with uninteresting action, unrelatable characters, lame comedy and a pointlessly convoluted plot. Just doesn't do it for me. For me to accept the "it's just for fun" argument I need to see either standout characters, great dialogue, exciting, dynamic and over-the-top action, some kind of broad catharsis, and/or an endearing ham and cheese factor. Baccano! didn 't really have any of these things - it tried for all of them, but felt forced on all counts.
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